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Old 07-15-2010   #1
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Default What do you have against "coach speak"?

Whenever coaches talk publicly, whether it be after game news conferences, or on the radio, all of them, not just Kubiak, but all coaches speak publicly the same way.

But I notice a lot of you mock the way they talk.

Why is that? I'm just curious.
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Lack of honesty. Tell it like it is, not how you want it to be perceived.
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Whenever coaches talk publicly, whether it be after game news conferences, or on the radio, all of them, not just Kubiak, but all coaches speak publicly the same way.

But I notice a lot of you mock the way they talk.

Why is that? I'm just curious.
Probably because some folks think that they are entitled to the truth when it comes to something they either believe in or contribute money and time... Reality of it all is world doesn't work that way but it is a nice thought...
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Sports betting leverage.

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Default Re: What do you have against "coach speak"?

Repetitive terms used.

"execute" from the previous coach
"kids" from this coach

Other than that, I have no issue.
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Default Re: What do you have against "coach speak"?

Nothing

Just thankful Kubiak's interview/PC's aren't like Belichick's.
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I quit listening to coach speak after Glanville.
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I quit listening to coach speak after Glanville.
Yeah well this is the NFL...
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That's three holding penalties on one football team in a quarter and a half.

That ain't funny. ...

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Nothing.

No matter what your career is you participate in "coach speak"...It's just that coach is replaced by whatever your proffession is...
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That's three holding penalties on one football team in a quarter and a half.

That ain't funny. ...

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Default Re: What do you have against "coach speak"?

I think the publics attitude about "coach speak" is directly related to the success of the team. When a team sucks - or is at least consistently not good - people get tired of the same terms over and over that lack any sincerity and are solely fluff to fulfill media obligations.

However, if the team was making the playoffs, that same coach speak would probably be perceived as some sort of deep strategy to keep the other teams from knowing what's really going on.

Fans are weird that way, but I suppose an emotional connection to a franchise with absolutely no control of it's fate can do that to people.
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Default Re: What do you have against "coach speak"?

I don't think people have as much problem with "coach speak" as they do when coaches drag out the same tired cliches without much meaning behind it.

"Execute" with Dom Capers

"It's on me" Gary Kubiak

Just after a while each phrase just becomes....worthless without any backing.
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I think the publics attitude about "coach speak" is directly related to the success of the team. When a team sucks - or is at least consistently not good - people get tired of the same terms over and over that lack any sincerity and are solely fluff to fulfill media obligations.

However, if the team was making the playoffs, that same coach speak would probably be perceived as some sort of deep strategy to keep the other teams from knowing what's really going on.

Fans are weird that way, but I suppose an emotional connection to a franchise with absolutely no control of it's fate can do that to people.
Agree with your assessment about it being related to winning. Now, in the case of the team losing more than winning, rather than listening to a coach's repetitive statements, and each and every coach has their own particular repetitive statements, fans want the coach to throw his employees (players, asst. coaches) under the bus.
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Agree with your assessment about it being related to winning. Now, in the case of the team losing more than winning, rather than listening to a coach's repetitive statements, and each and every coach has their own particular repetitive statements, fans want the coach to throw his employees (players, asst. coaches) under the bus.
yep. I agree completely. Fans are looking for blood and sacrificial scapegoats. But, any head coach that does that is then looked at with disdain by those same fans.

Sometimes coaches can offer a scapegoat without throwing anyone under the bus. Capers had Palmer, and Kubiak had Smith. But neither head coach verbally threw them under the bus. They just offered up the sacrifice for some appeasement and buy-me-some-time.

Very few head coaches have the personality to withstand the storms and shine without coach speak. Bum had it (and it helped that he had some great teams). Rex Ryan is the only current coach that I can think of...and he's new and his team made the playoffs.
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Default Re: What do you have against "coach speak"?

If unfiltered honesty in any way shape or form correlated to a Head Coach's ability, Jim Mora (Sr.) and Dennis Green would have numerous Vince Lombardi trophies. Instead, they have Coors Light ads.

Buddy Ryan might have one or two also.
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Lack of honesty. Tell it like it is, not how you want it to be perceived.
In most cases, the coaches/players speak to the media before having a chance to speak with each other one on one. So what you call a "lack of honesty" is really the coach/player sparing the other coach/player from having to be told by a 3rd party (the media) rather than being told face to face.

So when the media asks Schaub "what happened on that half back pass from Chris Brown" Schaub isn't going to say "well our bonehead coach made the call not me." He's going to say "we executed it in practice and just didn't execute it in the game." Then in the privacy of the film room the situation can be addressed.
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I like coach speak.

I do need to take "Chris Johnson" speak classes though. Can't understand a word that guy says.
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In most cases, the coaches/players speak to the media before having a chance to speak with each other one on one. So what you call a "lack of honesty" is really the coach/player sparing the other coach/player from having to be told by a 3rd party (the media) rather than being told face to face.

So when the media asks Schaub "what happened on that half back pass from Chris Brown" Schaub isn't going to say "well our bonehead coach made the call not me." He's going to say "we executed it in practice and just didn't execute it in the game." Then in the privacy of the film room the situation can be addressed.
I apply my feelings on this ONLY to the Head Coach. He doesn't need to "vett" his information against anyone else before talking. He's "it". He gets the credit or the blame - he has the right to tell it like it is.
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I apply my feelings on this ONLY to the Head Coach. He doesn't need to "vett" his information against anyone else before talking. He's "it". He gets the credit or the blame - he has the right to tell it like it is.
Sure he has the right, but maybe not the need.
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