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Old 03-14-2005   #41
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For comparison:

Willie Roaf--KC: 5, 5, 5
Walter Jones--Seatle: 0, 8.5, 2.5
Jonathon Odgen--Baltimore: 2.5, 3.25, 2
Tarik Glenn--Indy: 1, 3.5, 6
Matt Lepsis--Denver: 2.5, 2, 9
Chad Clifton--GB: 2, 2, 1
Matt Light--NE: 7.5, 3.5, 11.5
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Cass just has to learn to draft better....
??? If anyone is doing a good job on this staff its Cass.
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We're speculating up to now because (as far as we know) nothing has happened. But something that really kind of worries me is just how much they
might give up to get this guy. I think most of us would agree that they paid a healthy premium for Todd Wade last year. If they start talking about giving up this years and next years first round pick - then you're maybe doing something real stupid like the Vikings did way back when they traded their future to the Cowboys to get H. Walker.
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I agree. I do think Pace would be a great addition if we can get him at a premium, but if not then we are definately overpaying for him. But the likely hood is we will cut him in 4-6 years
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Building through the draft is just my personal view of how to build a great franchise. Eventhough I think Minnesota might spoil that view.
I agree with you here. I dont want to go out and overpay a bunch of FA. But when I guy like Pace is on the block, I will bend the rules. Either way im happy.

My gut says it wont happen. And we will use the 1st pick on an OLB, like Merriman.
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I agree with you here. I dont want to go out and overpay a bunch of FA. But when I guy like Pace is on the block, I will bend the rules. Either way im happy.

My gut says it wont happen. And we will use the 1st pick on an OLB, like Merriman.

Merriman? Haven't u heard...people are putting him up there with DJ @ "best LB in the draft", hell some people have him @ #3 to CLE.

^^^that wasn't to mess over ur point, I was simply lettin you know what the "experts" were thinking.
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Pace already plays for the Texans on my Madden game. I signed him through
FA. I payed him big money and hes doing very well. :woot
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HI everyone i am a rams fan, but not a troll. I got word on our message board that there is a possible Trade in the making between your texans and my rams?? who are you all willing to give up for Pace, im just wondering because i can't seem to find any links to the info. AND BY THE WAY..BEWARE, OF WHAT YOU ALL ARE GETTING INTO, PACE HAS HELD US HOSTAGE FOR THE LAST 3 SEASONS...IF YOU DON'T THROW ANY MONEY ON THE TABLE HIS FAT ***** WILL HOLD OUT ON TRAINING CAMP!
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AND BY THE WAY..BEWARE, OF WHAT YOU ALL ARE GETTING INTO, PACE HAS HELD US HOSTAGE FOR THE LAST 3 SEASONS...IF YOU DON'T THROW ANY MONEY ON THE TABLE HIS FAT ***** WILL HOLD OUT ON TRAINING CAMP!
Well if we trade for him, we will sign him to a long term deal. So he wont have to hold out.
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HI everyone i am a rams fan, but not a troll. I got word on our message board that there is a possible Trade in the making between your texans and my rams?? who are you all willing to give up for Pace, im just wondering because i can't seem to find any links to the info. AND BY THE WAY..BEWARE, OF WHAT YOU ALL ARE GETTING INTO, PACE HAS HELD US HOSTAGE FOR THE LAST 3 SEASONS...IF YOU DON'T THROW ANY MONEY ON THE TABLE HIS FAT ***** WILL HOLD OUT ON TRAINING CAMP!
If this trade goes down, Pace will have his money. So noworries on that front.
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From what ive heard and read the rams are looking for a 1st round pick. The texans have given jamie sharper and jay foreman permission to seek trades. Whether the texans have offered sharper or foreman, i dont know. But since pace is in houston, i doubt he came just to attend the rodeo. So im assuming the texans are for giving up that #1 the rams are looking for, and maybe jamie sharper. or foreman.
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FYI Foreman has been released. So dont count on him being traded.
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Well if we trade for him, we will sign him to a long term deal. So he wont have to hold out.

tru tru..but we have tried to sign him long term. we even put a 40mil offer on the table for fat azz..and he rejected it. This guy even fired his agents as a scape goat. But if this trade do go down we will have to have a #1 pick if that is the case, i do tell you all this tho, your Oline will be better with him, as for our Oline needs Youth, we will prolly try to get Alex Barron or Brown, then go after that DE, or S that we need.
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tru tru..but we have tried to sign him long term. we even put a 40mil offer on the table for fat azz..and he rejected it. This guy even fired his agents as a scape goat. But if this trade do go down we will have to have a #1 pick if that is the case, i do tell you all this tho, your Oline will be better with him, as for our Oline needs Youth, we will prolly try to get Alex Barron or Brown, then go after that DE, or S that we need.
Weren't his agents the Postons? Firing those knuckle heads hardly qualifies as a bad thing.
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Houston just released its second player today while Pace is in town. Foreman clears $2,210,000 and $3,140,000 of salary off the books as well for the next two years. I'm starting to think we are clearing out some cap space for this possible Pace signing. Eric Brown had salaries of $1,710,000 and $2,940,000 for this year and next. Glenn Earl is the starter so I anticipated his release, but coming today, with all this big news in Houston gives me some pause. I have my fingers crossed.
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yea that was a start firing the postons i heard those guys have bad reps...serious money grubbers, by the way how much are the texans under the cap??..i kno rite now we have like 3-5 mil left., after pace will free up bout 8 or 9 possibly if we deal him.
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The trade hasn't gone down yet, the article mentions that Pace is willing to look around. He is a franchise caliber left tackle and we could definitely use him on our team. I'm just not so sure on what we have to give up for him. Casserly has said that he wants to build the team around the draft and not sign expensive free agents. But this is a special case and I guess we can bend the rules just this one time. With Foreman being released today I think Sharper will be traded. If this trade does go down I will be happy but I'll also be wary of Pace's attitude. He has been a problem for the Rams for sometime now.
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Houston just released its second player today while Pace is in town. Foreman clears $2,210,000 and $3,140,000 of salary off the books as well for the next two years. I'm starting to think we are clearing out some cap space for this possible Pace signing. Eric Brown had salaries of $1,710,000 and $2,940,000 for this year and next. Glenn Earl is the starter so I anticipated his release, but coming today, with all this big news in Houston gives me some pause. I have my fingers crossed.

Wasnt the Foreman release just a matter of time??? Maybe this new "scenario" is what fueled them for today's release. Hmmm
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