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SDBoltz · 03-13-2005

Texans obviously need defense and the 49ers are shopping Julian peterson they are talking about trading him a first and a 3rd round pick to the chargers for Drew Brees. I don't think the Chargers will bite though. Would be a great addition for both teams considering the similarities in our defenses. Although the Chargers LB's are more agressive. Your big 3 is good but not good enough to win a championship yet. Brees LT and Gates heck even MCCardell was a pro bowler is better than Carr Davis and Johnson.

Blake · 03-13-2005

The Texans arent into big trades involving high picks, for vets.

DRIFTAWAY · 03-13-2005

If im the chargers i would jump all over that, because they could use a playmaker on defense and that is exactly what they would get. And you also mention they would trade a first and 3rd round picks, and if im correct San Fran holds the first overall pick. Its time the chargers give philip rivers a chance and this is the best oppurtunity, because the solidify their defense and pick up 2 extra picks. They could take that first overall pick and than draft derrick johnson and their defense would automatically be top 5 in the nfl. If the chargers were to jump on this, they would end up with Peterson, Maybe Johnson (or anyother top prospect in this draft) an extra third round pick, and they would still have philip rivers as qb. You can't go wrong. And if rivers ends up being a bust, remember they still have LD

DRIFTAWAY · 03-13-2005

Or if they think Julian Peterson would be fine enough on defense, than they could take the first pick and draft a big play wr like mike williams because they could use a big speedy physical reciever playing beside mccardell.

jr0ck · 03-13-2005

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but not good enough to win a championship yet

to be proven the minute DD, AJ, and Carr are playing on different teams without a Lomabrdi under their belts from their days as Texans...right now LT, Brees and Gates/McCardell haven't been good enough to win a championship...

**infantrycak** · 03-13-2005

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Originally Posted by SDBoltz

heck even MCCardell was a pro bowler is better than Carr Davis and Johnson.

LOL, 32 GM's out of 32 would pick aj over McCardell. Y'all had a great year but don't get delusional.

texansfan88 · 03-15-2005

I want a rematch with the Chargers, I still think we can beat them

YodAa · 03-15-2005

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Originally Posted by infantrycak

LOL, 32 GM's out of 32 would pick aj over McCardell. Y'all had a great year but don't get delusional.

Not only is AJ better receiver he also doesn't back stab his old team (which helped him get a SB ring) right when it seems like things are going down the pooper. MeNan McCardell!

TexansTrueFan · 03-15-2005

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Originally Posted by texansfan88

I want a rematch with the Chargers, I still think we can beat them

i love D.D and all, but we woulda beat the chargers had he not fumbled the ball twice in that

**infantrycak** · 03-15-2005

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i love D.D and all, but we woulda beat the chargers had he not fumbled the ball twice in that

Maybe we would have beat the Chargers is Carr had done better than 0 TD's and 2 Int's as well. I love how folks act like DD singlehandedly lost that game rather than the reality of it being a team clusterjob.

TexansTrueFan · 03-15-2005

haha na i wasnt saying that infanrycak, but neither of carrs ints resulted in points, one was with like 5 sec left and the other the defense held up, D.D fumbles resulted in the chargers getting point on atleast one of them !

**infantrycak** · 03-15-2005

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Originally Posted by TexansTrueFan

haha na i wasnt saying that infanrycak, but neither of carrs ints resulted in points, one was with like 5 sec left and the other the defense held up, D.D fumbles resulted in the chargers getting point on atleast one of them !

That was more of a general comment than just directed at you. Just to be accurate though one of the INT's and one of the fumbles resulted in TD's for SD--like I said, it was a team effort to give the game away.

TexansTrueFan · 03-15-2005

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Originally Posted by infantrycak

That was more of a general comment than just directed at you. Just to be accurate though one of the INT's and one of the fumbles resulted in TD's for SD--like I said, it was a team effort to give the game away.

oh i agree with you, its just more people seemed to be making a big deal about D.Ds fumbles rather than carrs ints. Quaterback always gets a little less blame (it seems)

cronicallyimpared · 03-15-2005

Linemen, on both sides of the ball, but most importantly on offense - That is what the Texans need! We have a productive back, we have (had) productive linebackers, we would have a much more productive group of wide receivers and a GREATLY improved quarterback (in terms of numbers) if we had an offensive line that wasn't easier to penetrate than . . . well . . . you know. What's all the talk about running backs, they’re a dime a dozen for the most part and I personally think we've got a pretty darn good one.

We can debate what if?'s all day long, but the fact remains, that the front office has yet to (in my mind) seriously put any effort into beefing up our biggest weakness. What's the point of more receivers and bigger, better, badder backs if they do as much good as those dang pink flamingo yard ornaments.

Did I mention that our offensive line is in dire need of improvement?

TexansTrueFan · 03-15-2005

i agree DAVIS has done GOOD behing this BAD OL of ours, its like in denver their oline makes any running back who carries the ball look good ! D.D has done good with what he has been given, same goes for Carr.

outofhnd · 03-16-2005

That is a great notion that we should take OL but there is one small Problem with that there are not too many quality OL in this years draft. At 13 take DL this year we can get project lineman and who knows maybe with a year of zone blocking under their belt this line may actually do alot better this year with no tweaking whatsoever. DL we are terribly weak if we lose Robaire to an injury. Then it becomes a lineman by committee like we had in year 2 of our beloved franchise. Which was just painful to watch.

**beerlover** · 03-16-2005

What the Texans need is to stay the course.

I would like to see them stick with their self proclaimed 5 year plan and keep developing draft picks and good F/A's under the radar who fit the system. I have lots of confidence in the front office of the Texans, they're not afraid to take chances & try different aproaches as needed. they scout well and are just a little ahead of the curve throughout the NFL. I think they need to stay with young, atheltic people of excellent character & work ethic & draft speed, speed & more speed.

BornOrange · 03-16-2005

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Originally Posted by infantrycak

Maybe we would have beat the Chargers is Carr had done better than 0 TD's and 2 Int's as well. I love how folks act like DD singlehandedly lost that game rather than the reality of it being a team clusterjob.

I'd have to go back and look at the game again, but if I remember correctly one of those INT's was a pass that deflected off a Texan's hands and the other was a deep ball at the half. Neither INT was a bad play by Carr.

D-ReK · 03-16-2005

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Originally Posted by BornOrange

I'd have to go back and look at the game again, but if I remember correctly one of those INT's was a pass that deflected off a Texan's hands and the other was a deep ball at the half. Neither INT was a bad play by Carr.

Donnie Edwards tipped the first INT and it seemed like it was in the air forever before it fell into Foley's hands...I have no problem finding Carr at fault for that INT, as I believe it was the direct result of his throwing motion...

That loss wasn't DD's fault anymore than it was Carr's fault of D-Rob's fault...Losing that game was a collective effort...

TexanFanInCC · 03-16-2005

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Originally Posted by SDBoltz

Texans obviously need defense and the 49ers are shopping Julian peterson they are talking about trading him a first and a 3rd round pick to the chargers for Drew Brees. I don't think the Chargers will bite though. Would be a great addition for both teams considering the similarities in our defenses. Although the Chargers LB's are more agressive. Your big 3 is good but not good enough to win a championship yet. Brees LT and Gates heck even MCCardell was a pro bowler is better than Carr Davis and Johnson.

the bolts wouldnt trade a probowl QB for a LB coming off a serious injury from last yr. they would be retarded.

03-13-2005	#1
SDBoltz Veteran Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 30 Posts: 175 Rep Power: 0	What the texans need. Texans obviously need defense and the 49ers are shopping Julian peterson they are talking about trading him a first and a 3rd round pick to the chargers for Drew Brees. I don't think the Chargers will bite though. Would be a great addition for both teams considering the similarities in our defenses. Although the Chargers LB's are more agressive. Your big 3 is good but not good enough to win a championship yet. Brees LT and Gates heck even MCCardell was a pro bowler is better than Carr Davis and Johnson.

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Blake MMQB Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spring Section: 551/B Posts: 9,580 Rep Power: 14926	The Texans arent into big trades involving high picks, for vets. __________________

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TexansTrueFan Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Huntsville Tx Age: 28 Posts: 2,600 Rep Power: 11	haha na i wasnt saying that infanrycak, but neither of carrs ints resulted in points, one was with like 5 sec left and the other the defense held up, D.D fumbles resulted in the chargers getting point on atleast one of them ! __________________ http://www.myspace.com/texanstruefan

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cronicallyimpared Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Corpus Christi TX Age: 33 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	Linemen, on both sides of the ball, but most importantly on offense - That is what the Texans need! We have a productive back, we have (had) productive linebackers, we would have a much more productive group of wide receivers and a GREATLY improved quarterback (in terms of numbers) if we had an offensive line that wasn't easier to penetrate than . . . well . . . you know. What's all the talk about running backs, they’re a dime a dozen for the most part and I personally think we've got a pretty darn good one. We can debate what if?'s all day long, but the fact remains, that the front office has yet to (in my mind) seriously put any effort into beefing up our biggest weakness. What's the point of more receivers and bigger, better, badder backs if they do as much good as those dang pink flamingo yard ornaments. Did I mention that our offensive line is in dire need of improvement? __________________ Stupid 80 Charater Limit!!!

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TexansTrueFan Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Huntsville Tx Age: 28 Posts: 2,600 Rep Power: 11	i agree DAVIS has done GOOD behing this BAD OL of ours, its like in denver their oline makes any running back who carries the ball look good ! D.D has done good with what he has been given, same goes for Carr. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/texanstruefan

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DRIFTAWAY All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Southeast Houston Age: 61 Posts: 996 Rep Power: 9	If im the chargers i would jump all over that, because they could use a playmaker on defense and that is exactly what they would get. And you also mention they would trade a first and 3rd round picks, and if im correct San Fran holds the first overall pick. Its time the chargers give philip rivers a chance and this is the best oppurtunity, because the solidify their defense and pick up 2 extra picks. They could take that first overall pick and than draft derrick johnson and their defense would automatically be top 5 in the nfl. If the chargers were to jump on this, they would end up with Peterson, Maybe Johnson (or anyother top prospect in this draft) an extra third round pick, and they would still have philip rivers as qb. You can't go wrong. And if rivers ends up being a bust, remember they still have LD

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texansfan88 All Pro Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 25 Posts: 880 Rep Power: 0	I want a rematch with the Chargers, I still think we can beat them

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outofhnd All Pro Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Age: 36 Posts: 723 Rep Power: 9	That is a great notion that we should take OL but there is one small Problem with that there are not too many quality OL in this years draft. At 13 take DL this year we can get project lineman and who knows maybe with a year of zone blocking under their belt this line may actually do alot better this year with no tweaking whatsoever. DL we are terribly weak if we lose Robaire to an injury. Then it becomes a lineman by committee like we had in year 2 of our beloved franchise. Which was just painful to watch.

03-16-2005	#17
beerlover Site Contributor Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 11,357 Rep Power: 15075	What the Texans need is to stay the course. I would like to see them stick with their self proclaimed 5 year plan and keep developing draft picks and good F/A's under the radar who fit the system. I have lots of confidence in the front office of the Texans, they're not afraid to take chances & try different aproaches as needed. they scout well and are just a little ahead of the curve throughout the NFL. I think they need to stay with young, atheltic people of excellent character & work ethic & draft speed, speed & more speed.

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