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brakos82 · 07-01-2010

Driving While Stoned.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...AVjo84Cvb6q2kO

Tennessee Titans quarterback Chris Simms, son of former Giants quarterback Phil Simms, was arrested this morning on charges of driving while stoned. Simms was observed with red eyes, flushed face and slurred speech at around 2 a.m., according to a source. Simms was recently signed by the Titans after spending the last few years with the Broncos and Buccaneers.

jaayteetx · 07-01-2010

So, uh, how do you prove that?

**drs23** · 07-01-2010

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Originally Posted by brakos82

Driving While Stoned.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...AVjo84Cvb6q2kO

Tennessee Titans quarterback Chris Simms, son of former Giants quarterback Phil Simms, was arrested this morning on charges of driving while stoned. Simms was observed with red eyes, flushed face and slurred speech at around 2 a.m., according to a source. Simms was recently signed by the Titans after spending the last few years with the Broncos and Buccaneers.

Why, I never...

DWS, hmmm. What's a mother to do?? Can't even burn a bud of hydro while driving around in the Big Apple anymore. WTF??

**Hookem Horns** · 07-01-2010

I wonder if he was driving too slow.

Texecutioner · 07-01-2010

Wow, are tax dollars at work here.

The cop who who arrested him for this should be the laughing stock at his police station.

I'm pretty sure that this case will get thrown out of court.

**StarStruck** · 07-01-2010

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Originally Posted by Texecutioner

Wow, are tax dollars at work here.

The cop who who arrested him for this should be the laughing stock at his police station.

I'm pretty sure that this case will get thrown out of court.

Why?

Texecutioner · 07-01-2010

Where in the story does this say that he was a huge hazard on the road? And you don't get a slurred speech from smoking pot. That tells me that this officer is trying to make it seem like Simms was in some drunken type of state. And this is a terrible precedent to set. If this kind of thing were to become more common for officers to arrest people for this, then any police could arrest you for this any time they want. They could just say that they felt that you were stoned and had to get you off of the road. It would be one of the most simple arrests that they could make.

**HOU-TEX** · 07-01-2010

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Originally Posted by Texecutioner

Wow, are tax dollars at work here.

The cop who who arrested him for this should be the laughing stock at his police station.

I'm pretty sure that this case will get thrown out of court.

Why? He was stopped at a checkpoint, reeked of tree and even admitted he was smoking it in the car.

jaayteetx · 07-01-2010

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Originally Posted by StarStruck

Why?

Probably because of the original question I asked in this thread, how do you prove he was stoned?

JB · 07-01-2010

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Originally Posted by jaayteetx

Probably because of the original question I asked in this thread, how do you prove he was stoned?

Basically, because he said he was! From the link above

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Simms reeked of marijuana and admitted to officers he had smoked earlier in the car, a source said.

He was so high that he could only mutter to the officers, the source said.

**ChampionTexan** · 07-01-2010

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Originally Posted by jaayteetx

Probably because of the original question I asked in this thread, how do you prove he was stoned?

This might be a good start (From the article in the OP):

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Simms reeked of marijuana and admitted to officers he had smoked earlier in the car, a source said.

**dc_txtech** · 07-01-2010

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Originally Posted by jaayteetx

Probably because of the original question I asked in this thread, how do you prove he was stoned?

They probably would not have been able to but the idjiot admitted it.

**ChampionTexan** · 07-01-2010

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Originally Posted by Texecutioner

Where in the story does this say that he was a huge hazard on the road? And you don't get a slurred speech from smoking pot. That tells me that this officer is trying to make it seem like Simms was in some drunken type of state. And this is a terrible precedent to set. If this kind of thing were to become more common for officers to arrest people for this, then any police could arrest you for this any time they want. They could just say that they felt that you were stoned and had to get you off of the road. It would be one of the most simple arrests that they could make.

So a question for you - when someone gets pulled over at a checkpoint, and the officer genuinely believes they are "Stoned" on pot, what do you believe is the proper response on the part of the officer?

b0ng · 07-01-2010

If an officer believes a person is stoned they usually do the "hold up a small light and move it side to side and observe the suspects eyes" deal. Usually the eyes are a dead give away for somebody being stoned but if they actually don't find any evidence (bag of weed, roaches, etc) they need a blood test of some kind to prove it is in their system, or a confession.

Slurred speech sounds like he was drinking as well, and red eyes point to either really.

**ArlingtonTexan** · 07-01-2010

Tennessee Titans quarterback Chris Simms was busted early this morning in the West Village driving high on marijuana with his 8-months pregnant wife in the passenger seat, The Post has learned.

Simms and his wife Danielle, both 29 of Nashville, were stopped as Simms drove their 2009 Mercedes Benz through an NYPD Manhattan South Task Force checkpoint on W. Houston Street at about 1:35 a.m., according to a source.

Simms reeked of marijuana and admitted to officers he had smoked earlier in the car, a source said.

"He was muttering," a source told The Post.

AP
Chris Simms
He also had red eyes, flushed face and slurred speech, sources added.

No drugs were found on Simms or in the car, and his wife, Danielle, was allowed to take the car home.

Simms was arrested and spent this morning getting booked.

He is currently awaiting arraignment at Manhattan Criminal Court on charges of operating a motor vehicle while impaired by marijuana.

The misdemeanor charge carries a maximum fine of $1,000 and up to one year in jail.

"We are aware of the reports and are in the process of gathering more information," said Robbie Bohren, team director of media relations, when asked about Simms’ arrest.

Simms is the son of former 1987 Super Bowl MVP Phil Simms and graduated from Ramapo High School in Franklin Lakes, N.J., where he was a standout quarterback twice named an All-State honoree. He went on to play college ball for the Longhorns at the University of Texas in Austin.

Professionally, he has also played for the Denver Broncos and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He has struggled to regain starter status since rupturing his spleen while playing for Tampa in 2005.

In April, he signed a one-year contract with the Titans, where he formerly played in 2008.

Phil Simms is now a football analyst with CBS and has a second son, Matt, who also pla
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...#ixzz0sSjkh7oc

Posted story because the most the questions/comments were answered in the full text article.

Wolf · 07-01-2010

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Originally Posted by ArlingtonTexan

Simms reeked of marijuana and admitted to officers he had smoked earlier in the car, a source said.

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He is currently awaiting arraignment at Manhattan Criminal Court on charges of operating a motor vehicle while impaired by marijuana.

The misdemeanor charge carries a maximum fine of $1,000 and up to one year in jail.

I don't smoke, but when I have been around it, I never have known someone to get slurred speech from mary Jane. alcohol, yeah, very much so...

so with that said.. that fine is light compared to if they busted him with a DWI (assuming Tenn has about the same fines as what is in Texas) ..and I don't know how that looks when you have a pregnant person in the car with you

CloakNNNdagger · 07-01-2010

MJ does not really cause classic "slurred speech." But, many times it is recognized as such due to its underlying slowing of reaction time, difficulty in concentrating and maintaining train of thought. All of these affect otherwise normal speech into multiple broken patterns of losing train of thought in mid sentence....................not unlike, and perceived by many as "slurred speech."

b0ng · 07-01-2010

Really it's not slurred speech. It would be the random addition of "dude" "man" and "totally" into every sentence that would be the tipoff.

**Hardcore Texan** · 07-01-2010

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Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger

MJ does not really cause classic "slurred speech." But, many times it is recognized as such due to its underlying slowing of reaction time, difficulty in concentrating and maintaining train of thought. All of these affect otherwise normal speech into multiple broken patterns of losing train of thought in mid sentence....................not unlike, and perceived by many as "slurred speech."

What were you talking about?

GP · 07-01-2010

LOL.

I think it's hilarious that he was stopped at a checkpoint on HOUSTON St.

Man, Bud Adams needs to get some babysitters for his players. Shirtless tequila parties, and now a backup QB stoned out while driving.

Simms should have just gave the cop the middle finger like his owner did. LOL.

BTW: Way to go, having your 8-months-pregnant wife in there with you. It says he admits smoking in the car earlier. Was she in there, too, or not?

07-01-2010	#1
brakos82 Hall of Fame Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: LOHAR (Land of Hipsters and Rain) Section: 1009 E. Union Age: 30 Posts: 19,383 Rep Power: 32569	Tenn QB Simms charged with DWS Driving While Stoned. http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...AVjo84Cvb6q2kO Tennessee Titans quarterback Chris Simms, son of former Giants quarterback Phil Simms, was arrested this morning on charges of driving while stoned. Simms was observed with red eyes, flushed face and slurred speech at around 2 a.m., according to a source. Simms was recently signed by the Titans after spending the last few years with the Broncos and Buccaneers.

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jaayteetx Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Albuquerque,NM Section: 623 Age: 39 Posts: 3,057 Rep Power: 6143	Re: Tenn QB Simms charged with DWS So, uh, how do you prove that? __________________ Buck Fud.

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Hookem Horns Lets Go Rangers Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,813 Rep Power: 31176	Re: Tenn QB Simms charged with DWS I wonder if he was driving too slow.

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Texecutioner Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 12,296 Rep Power: 29902	Re: Tenn QB Simms charged with DWS Wow, are tax dollars at work here. The cop who who arrested him for this should be the laughing stock at his police station. I'm pretty sure that this case will get thrown out of court.

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Texecutioner Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 12,296 Rep Power: 29902	Re: Tenn QB Simms charged with DWS Where in the story does this say that he was a huge hazard on the road? And you don't get a slurred speech from smoking pot. That tells me that this officer is trying to make it seem like Simms was in some drunken type of state. And this is a terrible precedent to set. If this kind of thing were to become more common for officers to arrest people for this, then any police could arrest you for this any time they want. They could just say that they felt that you were stoned and had to get you off of the road. It would be one of the most simple arrests that they could make.

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b0ng Ooops Join Date: Jul 2007 Age: 32 Posts: 6,828 Rep Power: 27461	Re: Tenn QB Simms charged with DWS If an officer believes a person is stoned they usually do the "hold up a small light and move it side to side and observe the suspects eyes" deal. Usually the eyes are a dead give away for somebody being stoned but if they actually don't find any evidence (bag of weed, roaches, etc) they need a blood test of some kind to prove it is in their system, or a confession. Slurred speech sounds like he was drinking as well, and red eyes point to either really. __________________ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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ArlingtonTexan Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 5,258 Rep Power: 19442	Re: Tenn QB Simms charged with DWS Tennessee Titans quarterback Chris Simms was busted early this morning in the West Village driving high on marijuana with his 8-months pregnant wife in the passenger seat, The Post has learned. Simms and his wife Danielle, both 29 of Nashville, were stopped as Simms drove their 2009 Mercedes Benz through an NYPD Manhattan South Task Force checkpoint on W. Houston Street at about 1:35 a.m., according to a source. Simms reeked of marijuana and admitted to officers he had smoked earlier in the car, a source said. "He was muttering," a source told The Post. AP Chris Simms He also had red eyes, flushed face and slurred speech, sources added. No drugs were found on Simms or in the car, and his wife, Danielle, was allowed to take the car home. Simms was arrested and spent this morning getting booked. He is currently awaiting arraignment at Manhattan Criminal Court on charges of operating a motor vehicle while impaired by marijuana. The misdemeanor charge carries a maximum fine of $1,000 and up to one year in jail. "We are aware of the reports and are in the process of gathering more information," said Robbie Bohren, team director of media relations, when asked about Simms’ arrest. Simms is the son of former 1987 Super Bowl MVP Phil Simms and graduated from Ramapo High School in Franklin Lakes, N.J., where he was a standout quarterback twice named an All-State honoree. He went on to play college ball for the Longhorns at the University of Texas in Austin. Professionally, he has also played for the Denver Broncos and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He has struggled to regain starter status since rupturing his spleen while playing for Tampa in 2005. In April, he signed a one-year contract with the Titans, where he formerly played in 2008. Phil Simms is now a football analyst with CBS and has a second son, Matt, who also pla Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...#ixzz0sSjkh7oc Posted story because the most the questions/comments were answered in the full text article. __________________ It doesn't just seem like I was talking down to people, I was. (Runner 8/4/09).

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CloakNNNdagger Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 12,457 Rep Power: 43578	Re: Tenn QB Simms charged with DWS MJ does not really cause classic "slurred speech." But, many times it is recognized as such due to its underlying slowing of reaction time, difficulty in concentrating and maintaining train of thought. All of these affect otherwise normal speech into multiple broken patterns of losing train of thought in mid sentence....................not unlike, and perceived by many as "slurred speech."

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GP Go Texans! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: TEXAS! Posts: 17,747 Rep Power: 50138	Re: Tenn QB Simms charged with DWS LOL. I think it's hilarious that he was stopped at a checkpoint on HOUSTON St. Man, Bud Adams needs to get some babysitters for his players. Shirtless tequila parties, and now a backup QB stoned out while driving. Simms should have just gave the cop the middle finger like his owner did. LOL. BTW: Way to go, having your 8-months-pregnant wife in there with you. It says he admits smoking in the car earlier. Was she in there, too, or not? __________________

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