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Old 05-29-2010   #1
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Default what keeps schaub from being an elite qb?

What do you guys think schaub has to do to be considered an elite QB? He did great 09 season, and has steadily improved. If he stays healthy I consider him to be top 5. He has good accuracy short, medium, and deep. Has a great play action even though the run game is almost non-existent. He obviously has to win in the division but I don't blame him as much as I do our play calling.
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Default Re: what keeps schaub from being an elite qb?

Cut down the INT's while getting better at passing for TD's in the red zone.
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Default Re: what keeps schaub from being an elite qb?

I think he is an elite QB already
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Default Re: what keeps schaub from being an elite qb?

I think it's the stigma of being soft, or injury prone. What was it his first two seasons, he only played in 11 each of those seasons.

That said, if 2009 was indicative of the type of QB he can be, than he should hit near elite status - SOON!
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Default Re: what keeps schaub from being an elite qb?

Winning games despite your teams shortcomings is what elevates players from above average to elite. It is not totally fair to Qbs, but until people think that Schuab takes a good offense makes it truly great he is going to be at the levels below the top handful of guys no matter what the stats say.
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I think he is an elite QB already
I think that is basically right, except he needs to show he is not a one-year wonder. If he performs next year on par with how he performed last year, I believe he will then be recognized in most circles as an elite QB.
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Default Re: what keeps schaub from being an elite qb?

I think he is quite likely already "elite".....assuming he's healthy. Otherwise the things that hold pundits (and a number of people on this board) back from this opinion could include field goal kickers who missed a number of key kicks, running backs fumbling at key moments, and under-performing d-backs with a penchant for writing on their shoes. If those things go a bit differently, we'd "suddenly" have an "elite" QB, good coach, and we'd have likely been in the playoffs. Would have, could have. I don't have an issue with our QB. Can't name many that I'd rather have, so I guess that must mean that he's elite in some sense.
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Default Re: what keeps schaub from being an elite qb?

Get this team to the playoffs and we'll talk elite, but until then, he's just at the very top of the second tier of quarterbacks.
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Default Re: what keeps schaub from being an elite qb?

If he has a similar season to last season, he's elite in my book.
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What do you guys think schaub has to do to be considered an elite QB?
Win. He's got the tools and the horses to put up big numbers, which he's proven he can do. The perception of the elite QB comes from two main attributes: they throw a lot of touchdowns, and they win big games - consistently. Schaub can do the first, he has yet to really do the ladder on any stage of genuine significance. The Texans need a year or two of solid playoff contender type years (10-11+ wins) and he'll be recognized as an elite QB.
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Default Re: what keeps schaub from being an elite qb?

top ten in madden means he's already an elite. derp.
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top ten in madden means he's already an elite. derp.
LMAO! He dint do that bad with interceptions. He threw 15 and had 29 TD's. Its not great but its also not bad. It wasent a secret that we were gonna throw. Plus our O line sux.
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Default Re: what keeps schaub from being an elite qb?

Only two things - playoff wins and consistency. Those two things should go together.
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Default Re: what keeps schaub from being an elite qb?

Already ther stat-wise for me. National recognition, being down in the 4th, taking charge and pulling home the win on his arm/leadership.
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Default Re: what keeps schaub from being an elite qb?

The biggest thing, I think, is that he has to continue to do what he is doing. Like several have already said, he has to prove he wasn't a one-hit-wonder.

winning a few important games would help too.
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Default Re: what keeps schaub from being an elite qb?

Your right on the stats, they are all there. I think what makes manning the best qb in the league and top 3 to ever play the game is his come backs. Something that schaub obviously lacks, but then again, Manning calls almost all the plays.
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I think he is quite likely already "elite".....assuming he's healthy. Otherwise the things that hold pundits (and a number of people on this board) back from this opinion could include field goal kickers who missed a number of key kicks, running backs fumbling at key moments, and under-performing d-backs with a penchant for writing on their shoes. If those things go a bit differently, we'd "suddenly" have an "elite" QB, good coach, and we'd have likely been in the playoffs. Would have, could have. I don't have an issue with our QB. Can't name many that I'd rather have, so I guess that must mean that he's elite in some sense.

This!! He's only as good as the players around him. He has the stats. He just had key players around him last year who screwed up, not his fault!!
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Default Re: what keeps schaub from being an elite qb?

If you don't consider Schaub elite, your smoking something. Yes he has room to improve, but he doesn't need to improve much to be considered a Top 5 QB. Like what has already been stated, he needs to help his team win those close games. A few come-from-behind victories would be nice as well .
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Default Re: what keeps schaub from being an elite qb?

I believe he already is, but to be recognized I think he has to date a model or movie-star or something.
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Default Re: what keeps schaub from being an elite qb?

Playoffs competition and playoff victories.
Joe Montana, a rather slightly better-than-ordinary QB otherwise, parlayed
playoff victories and ultimately SB victories into ratings as one of the greatest NFL QBs in history.
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