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Old 05-21-2010   #1
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Default Texans gonna finally beat the colts?

Im new here, I just recently started following the Texans for the 09 season. I cant seem to get enough. Anyways besides that check out what NFL TA is saying. What you guys think?

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-networ...ring-the-Colts
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Im new here, I just recently started following the Texans for the 09 season. I cant seem to get enough. Anyways besides that check out what NFL TA is saying. What you guys think?

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-networ...ring-the-Colts
Great first post. I think Solomon & Rod hit on some key points, and I think they did a good job reviewing the Texans.

I think Solomon hit the nail on the head... there is a mental block there, that we have got to get over.
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Basically we have to not collapse in hilarious fashion if we are to beat the Colts.
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Twice this upcoming season.
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OK. maybe the Magic 8-Ball is pure speculation.

But I just have to see us beat the Colts before I believe it will be done. And even then, it would still be possibly just a fluke.

Until it happens more regularly, it has to be treated as a fluke unless it's an obvious changing-of-the-guard type of game where we dominate from start to finish.
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Twice this upcoming season.
Weve beat them once in our entire existence. I'd be happy splitting with them
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OK. maybe the Magic 8-Ball is pure speculation.

But I just have to see us beat the Colts before I believe it will be done. And even then, it would still be possibly just a fluke.

Until it happens more regularly, it has to be treated as a fluke unless it's an obvious changing-of-the-guard type of game where we dominate from start to finish.
The sad part is there's been about 3 or 4 games in the past 3 or 4 seasons where we pretty much do dominate them until about halfway through the 4th quarter. Then we don our rodeo clown outfits and make a spectacle of ourselves.
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Im new here, I just recently started following the Texans for the 09 season. I cant seem to get enough. Anyways besides that check out what NFL TA is saying. What you guys think?

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-networ...ring-the-Colts
What got you to following the Texans this past season? Was it a particular player?

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Default Re: Texans gonna finally beat the colts?

Finally???

We have beat the Colts before.

I know it's nothing to hang your hat on, but "finally" is not the word I would use......
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The sad part is there's been about 3 or 4 games in the past 3 or 4 seasons where we pretty much do dominate them until about halfway through the 4th quarter. Then we don our rodeo clown outfits and make a spectacle of ourselves.
Yeah, I agree.

It's just sad. I think having David Carr lining up against Peyton Manning has instilled an overall lack of confidence by our whole team. When we had Carr, we had no chance on offense at all. And our defense was facing a great Qb entering his prime. It was double-doomsday for us.

And we just haven't climbed out of that pit yet.

It's like the abused girlfriend who finds herself perpetually in abusive relationships. She doesn't know anything else. And when it looks like she's about to land a great guy, she self-destructs under the pressure and reverts back to bad relationships. It's just a funk that we've got going on.

I hope we really nail those Colts this year. A really good, severe beatdown that leaves no question about it. That'll be almost enough for me.
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Finally???

We have beat the Colts before.

I know it's nothing to hang your hat on, but "finally" is not the word I would use......
Okay, then, when the Texans finally beat the colts for the second time in team history?
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Yeah, I agree.

It's just sad. I think having David Carr lining up against Peyton Manning has instilled an overall lack of confidence by our whole team. When we had Carr, we had no chance on offense at all. And our defense was facing a great Qb entering his prime. It was double-doomsday for us.

And we just haven't climbed out of that pit yet.

It's like the abused girlfriend who finds herself perpetually in abusive relationships. She doesn't know anything else. And when it looks like she's about to land a great guy, she self-destructs under the pressure and reverts back to bad relationships. It's just a funk that we've got going on.

I hope we really nail those Colts this year. A really good, severe beatdown that leaves no question about it. That'll be almost enough for me.
Most of the people who lined up with Carr are pretty much gone now. There's no reason for this team to be so shell shocked against the Colts when it's obvious that we do have enough firepower to beat them (As evidenced by at least a few games over the past 2 or 3 seasons) but we just go 3 stooges when it's time to put them away.

Yeah, Peyton is probably going to shred the secondary like he does to 90% of the NFL teams out there, but I think that the Colts have enough problems covering AJ and Daniels that we can take advantage of them. It's always always some super boneheaded plays that give the Colts a nice fat W in the waning minutes.

I love that we start our season off against them. Sure they may seem nigh unbeatable, but if you want the season to be a success there is no better place to start than at home against Indy.
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Most of the people who lined up with Carr are pretty much gone now. There's no reason for this team to be so shell shocked against the Colts when it's obvious that we do have enough firepower to beat them (As evidenced by at least a few games over the past 2 or 3 seasons) but we just go 3 stooges when it's time to put them away.

Yeah, Peyton is probably going to shred the secondary like he does to 90% of the NFL teams out there, but I think that the Colts have enough problems covering AJ and Daniels that we can take advantage of them. It's always always some super boneheaded plays that give the Colts a nice fat W in the waning minutes.

I love that we start our season off against them. Sure they may seem nigh unbeatable, but if you want the season to be a success there is no better place to start than at home against Indy.
I think it's the knowledge that you're not the bext on your own block. And that the difference between the block bully and us is VERY large. Over time, you just can't visualize actually getting past them...until the bully gets so old that his body wears down and is vulnerable.

I think it started in the Carr years, and my assertion (as you said) is probably not a good one. We could have had a really good QB under center and it wouldn't have mattered with where Manning and that Colts team were at that time.

We have to hope that the block's bully has slipped in his ability to dominate. We need a small opening to exploit, and then we'll be OK. These things are cyclical anyways. No team dominates for like 10 years or more. They all hit a low spot at some point. We just have to hope that we hit our peak when the other three teams in our division are in decline. That, to me, is the perfect recipe for a good run at the title over multiple seasons. The Colts have leveraged that sort of recipe for a long time now.
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We have to hope that the block's bully has slipped in his ability to dominate. We need a small opening to exploit, and then we'll be OK. These things are cyclical anyways. No team dominates for like 10 years or more. They all hit a low spot at some point. We just have to hope that we hit our peak when the other three teams in our division are in decline. That, to me, is the perfect recipe for a good run at the title over multiple seasons. The Colts have leveraged that sort of recipe for a long time now.
I don't think the Colts are gonna slip much this year if at all.

For what it's worth, I agree with much of what everyone has said in this thread. The talent for Houston to beat the Colts is certainly there, but they need to play a full 60 minutes to get it done.

I expect the AFC South to be a 2 team race this year.
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I don't think the Colts are gonna slip much this year if at all.

For what it's worth, I agree with much of what everyone has said in this thread. The talent for Houston to beat the Colts is certainly there, but they need to play a full 60 minutes to get it done.

I expect the AFC South to be a 2 team race this year.
Heck even if we sweep y'all I would still expect it to be tough to win the division. We don't have any influence on the other 14 games and as long as Manning is there I expect the Colts to crank out 11+ win seasons.
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What got you to following the Texans this past season? Was it a particular player?

Welcome to the board.

Thanks, I finally changed jobs and had time to follow the texans. I started following a little bit since the inception, but not like you guys here, and not like i have been for the 09 season. A loss ruined the whole week for me.
Im not a kub basher, I had mixed feelings when they gave him an extension, but I think the mental hurdle is the coaching. Cushing and pollard brought it for the D, shaub and johnson got it for the O. It's just not coming together and I feel like alot of that is on the coaching. Like someone said, the talent is more then there.
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The colts didn't beat us in either game last year....from what I remember.

What I remember is the Texans beating the Colts, then beating themselves and since the Colts were the only other team present they got the W's. Texans were the driving force in both games, unfortunately in both games their play was to hand the game over.
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Finally???

We have beat the Colts before.

I know it's nothing to hang your hat on, but "finally" is not the word I would use......
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Okay, then, when the Texans finally beat the colts for the second time in team history?
If you watch the video, the question is who can knock the Colts off as the division winner this year. Indy has won the division 6 of the past 8 years. The other 2 belong to the Tacks. Are the Texans going to finally beat the Colts as the division winner is what the thread/video is about.
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OK. maybe the Magic 8-Ball is pure speculation.

But I just have to see us beat the Colts before I believe it will be done. And even then, it would still be possibly just a fluke.

Until it happens more regularly, it has to be treated as a fluke unless it's an obvious changing-of-the-guard type of game where we dominate from start to finish.
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Prove it- Make the playoffs.

If the Texans atart out 3-1 they will probably be talking about the playoffs. Followed by a 3-4 game losing streak. It's time for them to stop talking and prove it on the field.

They haven't even proven they can beat the Tacks muchless the Colts. (Dose of reality)

Which will be difficult because the used car salesman that is McNair has been saying they are a playoff team the last 2 yrs. See where thats gotten them.
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If I was a betting man, I'd put my money on Indy.

I hate to say it, but as a fan of this team, I no longer have expectations for this franchise, much less high expectations like beating the Colts.

I'll never stop cheering for them, though!
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