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Old 05-18-2010   #1
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Default Does Andre Johnson Deserve a New Contract?

Does the man deserve a new deal, after playing just three years through his eight year deal because he is the best WR in football? Or does him being the best WR in football not even matter, since he agreed to his new contract and won't honor it less than halfway through.
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He is the best in the league but, I say take us to the playoffs, and then talk more money!
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Default Re: Does Andre Johnson Deserve a New Contract?

He deserves money like one of the best, if not the best, WR in the league. But he is still only a little ways into his last contract. Give him more money a year from now after you see how the season goes.
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Default Re: Does Andre Johnson Deserve a New Contract?

Meh, he's the third highest paid WR in the league behind Brandon Marshall and Larry Fitsgerald. It's not like he's making peanuts. OTOH, make the man happy. I want him to retire a Texan.
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Default Does Andre Johnson Deserve a New Contract?

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He is the best in the league but, I say take us to the playoffs, and then talk more money!
I find "take us to the play-offs and then get paid" a spurious tenet. There is only so much one player can do, and by becoming the best receiver in the league Dre has done his part.

The opposite viewpoint may be that he's tired of endless losing and mediocrity. He's excelled, the past two years especially, but the other players and certainly the coaching staff haven't played up to his level. I don't think the front office is the best in the league either. Dre isn't the one keeping this team out of the play-offs.

Anyway, if the principle is "take us to the play-offs and then get paid", does that mean they will be re-doing 54 contracts when the make the post-season?
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Default Re: Does Andre Johnson Deserve a New Contract?

If they're going to take care of anyone, it should be this man. If a player like Andre Johnson even thinks you're cheap (let alone says it), every player in the league will for a long time.
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Default Re: Does Andre Johnson Deserve a New Contract?

he's got what, 3 mil left per year? averaged out anyway....make him a few more garaunteed bones to keep him happy but c'mon Dre, you can't be THAT unhappy.
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Default Re: Does Andre Johnson Deserve a New Contract?

Players are unhappy when they are franchised because while they are paid among the best at their position, they don't have a long-term contract. It seems like when players get their long-term contracts, somewhere along the line (3 years in with 5 years left) they realize they are not at fair market value when new contracts come into fold. You can't have it both ways bro.

That being said, he probably does deserve a little more guaranteed but he should have NOT signed an 8 year deal. I just don't like hearing about it not even half way through his deal. This is a part of the game that I would prefer not to hear about.
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Default Re: Does Andre Johnson Deserve a New Contract?

Johnson has all the leverage in this situaiton, it's a win-win for him because especially in this uncapped year somebody is going to pay him. If not the Texans there's gonna be another team that would ? For example, even with this spectacular failure in decision-making by Reskins owner Snyder which is costing him tens of millions with little return on his investment from Fat Albert, do you think he'd stop from making a deal to put Johnson on the receiving end of McNabbs passes if given the opportunity, especially with young OC Shanny raving about the talented Johnson after coaching him in Houston ? That's just one scenario, I can see many others.
Johnsons uncle is making the right move at the right time, will the Texans also make the right move which might be trading Johnson now when it's the right time ffor them to leverage his value with the uncapped year ?
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Default Re: Does Andre Johnson Deserve a New Contract?

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Johnson has all the leverage in this situaiton, it's a win-win for him because especially in this uncapped year somebody is going to pay him. If not the Texans there's gonna be another team that would ? For example, even with this spectacular failure in decision-making by Reskins owner Snyder which is costing him tens of millions with little return on his investment from Fat Albert, do you think he'd stop from making a deal to put Johnson on the receiving end of McNabbs passes if given the opportunity, especially with young OC Shanny raving about the talented Johnson after coaching him in Houston ? That's just one scenario, I can see many others.
Johnsons uncle is making the right move at the right time, will the Texans also make the right move which might be trading Johnson now when it's the right time ffor them to leverage his value with the uncapped year ?
Actually AJ has very little leverage. He's under contract for the next 5 years, period.
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Johnson has all the leverage in this situaiton, it's a win-win for him because especially in this uncapped year somebody is going to pay him. If not the Texans there's gonna be another team that would ? For example, even with this spectacular failure in decision-making by Reskins owner Snyder which is costing him tens of millions with little return on his investment from Fat Albert, do you think he'd stop from making a deal to put Johnson on the receiving end of McNabbs passes if given the opportunity, especially with young OC Shanny raving about the talented Johnson after coaching him in Houston ? That's just one scenario, I can see many others.
Johnsons uncle is making the right move at the right time, will the Texans also make the right move which might be trading Johnson now when it's the right time ffor them to leverage his value with the uncapped year ?
No, the only card Johnson has is to hold out. He is under contract for 5 more years. What's he going to do, sit out for those 5 years?
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Texan Bill beat me to it.
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No, the only card Johnson has is to hold out. He is under contract for 5 more years. What's he going to do, sit out for those 5 years?
Exactly, he is locked up until he's 34 years old. What incentive would the Texans have to give him a new deal? AJ has 0 leverage.
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Exactly, he is locked up until he's 34 years old. What incentive would the Texans have to give him a new deal? AJ has 0 leverage.

The only incentive they would have is to keep their best player happy. It's the game you play, but what happens in two years when his contract is out of whack again? Players want the long term contracts for insurance, but they also want to keep pace with an ever-evolving league, and that just isn't possible.
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Default Re: Does Andre Johnson Deserve a New Contract?

Aj signed an 8 year deal when he was 26. 26 + 8 is 34. If he wanted multiple contracts, he should hav egone with a shorter length.

Id be willing to renogiate with him... but only after we see what OD is capable of and get him signed long term.

I think giving in to AJ right now sets a bad precedent for our team
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I find "take us to the play-offs and then get paid" a spurious tenet. There is only so much one player can do, and by becoming the best receiver in the league Dre has done his part.

The opposite viewpoint may be that he's tired of endless losing and mediocrity. He's excelled, the past two years especially, but the other players and certainly the coaching staff haven't played up to his level. I don't think the front office is the best in the league either. Dre isn't the one keeping this team out of the play-offs.

Anyway, if the principle is "take us to the play-offs and then get paid", does that mean they will be re-doing 54 contracts when the make the post-season?
Well we can't get to the playoffs with out him, So I say help us get there and then talk more money.
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Pay him, but dont put a fricking gun to mgmnts head to get it done. Why thi even went public I dont know.
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Doesn't matter what AJ thinks or really even wants. He is under contract.

What does Mr. McNair think?
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Doesn't matter what AJ thinks or really even wants. He is under contract.

What does Mr. McNair think?
Of course it matters what he thinks and wants! His state of mind is very important to the team's success. An unhappy, underpaid AJ presents an important dilemma for the front office.

Pay the man, but go about it carefully. If anyone deserves to be the highest paid at his position, it's the incomparable Andre Johnson.
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Pay him, but dont put a fricking gun to mgmnts head to get it done. Why thi even went public I dont know.
Agreed. I knew the day he signed his contract that the 8yrs would present a problem down the line, but I thought it would be another year (and an AFC South division title) before he'd start to make noise about wanting a new deal and the Texans would quietly go about the business of giving it to him.
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