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Old 05-17-2010   #1
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Default June 1 getting closer. Any chance we look at Atogwe?

There was some talk about the Texans looking toward Sharper as a free agent, but it didn't pan out.

Atogwe has yet to sign his tender with the rams, meaning that if June 1st rolls around, he becomes a free agent.

He's only 28 and has only been in the league for 6 years. He has 19 career INTs.

I think he's coming off an injury, but I dont have the details.


Any guesses as to what he would mean to the team if we did go after him?
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Default Re: June 1 getting closer. Any chance we look at Atogwe?

Why would June 1 matter this year? It is significant only in that you can remove some of the cap hit from this year and delay it to next year. This year is uncapped so there is no reason to do so. Players will be cut at any time this off-season.
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Default Re: June 1 getting closer. Any chance we look at Atogwe?

Did you get the memo? Yeeeaaahhh, evidently, you didn't get the memo. Smithiak is comfortable with the situation at the safety position. I'll have a copy of that memo sent over.
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Why would June 1 matter this year? It is significant only in that you can remove some of the cap hit from this year and delay it to next year. This year is uncapped so there is no reason to do so. Players will be cut at any time this off-season.
Because if the Rams do not reach an agreement with him by June 1, they will have to pay him 110% of last years salary, which was at the franchise level.

He is not going to sign him the tender because it was so low, and they are not going to pay him what 9mil?
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Why would June 1 matter this year? It is significant only in that you can remove some of the cap hit from this year and delay it to next year. This year is uncapped so there is no reason to do so. Players will be cut at any time this off-season.
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Just to recap, the St. Louis Rams have until June 1 to reach an agreement with the safety; if they don't, they'll either have to pay him a one-year salary at 110 percent of his 2009 wages or he'll become an unrestricted free agent.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/features/rumors

The Rams would owe him over 7 million if he waits until June 1. The onl ytendered him at 1.3 million

http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/05/10/wych...der-with-rams/

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NFL.com senior writer Steve Wyche told “NFL Total Access” on Monday that Atogwe will not sign his tender. That decision increases the likelihood that Atogwe will be someone else’s starting strong safety next season.

The key date in the whole scenario is June 1. The Rams continue to hold exclusive negotiating rights with Atogwe and can try to sign him to a long-term deal. On June 1, because the Rams tendered Atogwe at $1.226 million (significantly less than his 2009 salary), they hold the option of extending an offer at 110 percent of his salary (nearly $7 million) to retain his rights or releasing him to become an unrestricted free agent.
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Default Re: June 1 getting closer. Any chance we look at Atogwe?

He's a strong safety, and we need a free safety. There is no chance they will sign him to be a 6-8 million backup to Pollard.


Edit: I bet he ends up in Dallas.
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He's a strong safety, and we need a free safety. There is no chance they will sign him to be a 6-8 million backup to Pollard.


Edit: I bet he ends up in Dallas.
We dont really play free safety strong safety like some teams in the NFL.

I dont see why he wouldn't be an excellent complement to Pollard. He's got excellent coverage skills, at least according to his stats (19 INTs and 33 passes defended in 6 years).

At 5-11, 205, he's not built too large to be a FS.
He ran a 4.55 at the combine in the 40, so hes fast enough.
And he played FS in college
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Default Re: June 1 getting closer. Any chance we look at Atogwe?

Troy Polamalu is a Strong Safety... I'd plug him in our secondary even with Pollard. Just sayin'

Dom Barber doesn't seem like a Free Safety in the sense of what we all want, a free ranging ball hawk. I think Atogwe and Pollard could be a nice safety duo. Because of the Price O.J. will command, it really depends on what the Staff thinks of Eugene Wilson's recovery and Barber's progress as a starter. There's a huge $ difference in Barber to Atogwe and if they don't see a corresponding increase in performance then I doubt the do it. Personally, I hope we're at least considering it.

Honestly, I havn't watched him much (he plays for the Rams) so I'm not too familiar with his style of play. It seems he has the instincts and ball skills which are key. Playing SS you assume he's proficient in tackling. Tackling and Instincts/Intellect are key to Secondary personnel for our team.
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Default Re: June 1 getting closer. Any chance we look at Atogwe?

Otogwe is capable of playing FS. I don't think we sign him though because that is the M.O. this year.
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Default Re: June 1 getting closer. Any chance we look at Atogwe?

OK, forgot the tender factor. Still not seeing the likelihood of him being released if it is under $7 mil to keep him.
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We dont really play free safety strong safety like some teams in the NFL.

I dont see why he wouldn't be an excellent complement to Pollard. He's got excellent coverage skills, at least according to his stats (19 INTs and 33 passes defended in 6 years).

At 5-11, 205, he's not built too large to be a FS.
He ran a 4.55 at the combine in the 40, so hes fast enough.
And he played FS in college
I think the FS=SS thing isn't so anymore. There was a time when we played like that but it sure seemed like that most of last season had us playing a strong and a free respectively.
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yeah, maybe if he's unsigned until some point in the season....
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Default Re: June 1 getting closer. Any chance we look at Atogwe?

No more FA's will be signed this offseason.

You heard it here 1st. LOL

Unless they come off of the scrap heap.
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Default Re: June 1 getting closer. Any chance we look at Atogwe?

He is a safety capable of starting at either spot

but he would want a new lucrative contract so that pretty much rules that out
he would improve the team though
no doubt so i support any move that improves the team
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I think the FS=SS thing isn't so anymore. There was a time when we played like that but it sure seemed like that most of last season had us playing a strong and a free respectively.
With the numbers gtexan showed, it sounds as though the Rams didn't play with a true SS/FS.. that both safeties were expected to perform the same type of role.


Kubiak wants a safety that can do that. Pollard fits the bill, and plays the run better than any safety we've had yet.

If Atogwe is that same kind of athlete, strong against the run, and better than average against the pass (which his numbers show)... maybe the Texans would be interested, Atogwe/Pollard may be exactly what they are looking for.

I liked both CC Brown, and Glen Earl. They were, IMO, versatile, and could play either position. Neither played either position particularly well. Pollard plays the run like nobody's business, and he's not too shabby in coverage. If Atogwe is the Bizarro-Pollard, exceptional in space, and not too shabby in run defense...

I can see it happening.

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Did you get the memo? Yeeeaaahhh, evidently, you didn't get the memo. Smithiak is comfortable with the situation at the safety position. I'll have a copy of that memo sent over.


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UPDATE

Otogwe officially became a free agent at 11pm last night.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5241584
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The St. Louis Rams did not re-tender safety O.J. Atogwe at $6.976 million as they needed to do to assure them of his services this season. As a result, Atogwe is now an unrestricted free agent.

Atogwe, the Rams' franchise player last offseason, is now one of the top free agents, if not the top free agent available.

The Rams still would like to re-sign him, just at a lower salary than the nearly $7 million they would have been obliged to pay this season.

Atogwe is coming off an injury-shortened 2009 season. A shoulder injury landed him on injured reserve. He also underwent hernia surgery.

Despite playing a shortened season, Atogwe still recorded 74 tackles, three forced fumbles, two interceptions and a sack in 12 games. Atogwe, who will turn 29 this month, has 19 interceptions in his five-year NFL career.

The two sides are expected to continue talking. But the Miami Dolphins, Dallas Cowboys and Minnesota Vikings all might have some level of interest in Atogwe as well.
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29 off a couple injuries....

Hard to argue with the production though. I can honestly say I'd rather see him than Barber too. Well, I'd rather see him than anyone not named Pollard.
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Judging by how many reports have linked us to him, I'd say the chances are slim?
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