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Old 03-09-2005   #1
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One of the few articles on Texans by beat reporter. Peek has a chance to start next year, and it seems that Texans are more interested in OLBs that ILBs. So, Texas fans, maybe no DJ!!

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory...fb/nfl/3075853
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Peek needs to start...and I think the coaches finally figured that out with the final 4 games left.

But this is the thing that really concerns me:

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Peek, who will be entering the final season of a three-year contract
They need to hurry up and sign him for at least 2 more years. I really think this guy is gonna turn heads in a starting role position.
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well, according to my dad, the texans coaching staff feels that peek needs to improve in pass coverage bc they feel that he makes alot of dumb mistakes in coverage. quite frankly, i would love to see him out there everyday. i would lock him in for at least 10 sacks in 16 games. it seemed like every time peek went into the game, he was wreaking havok on the offensive line causing them to false start, getting to the QB, forcing fumbles, or making big hits.
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I think my boy has improved already, look at his coverage in Indy where he was in perfect position/coverage one play, and then the next he picks one off. To be honest, he isnt going to sign a contract here unless he starts this season. If things go well during the season maybe something could be done but nothing is going to happen before that point in time. And if he does start and plays well, maybe he will be testing the market.
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you know the main reason i've hoped for peek to get into the starting lineup is not because of his production but because of his attitude on the field...the man is just mean on the field and i think that's what we need in a linebacker out there
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"If deals can't be worked out, there's a good chance both will be released."
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This from the Carlton's Chron story:
Looks like (A) try to work out a trade for both (B) if that fails try to restructure contracts (C) if that fails Sharper and/or Foreman flat out cut.
Whoa, the times they are a changin ! We could end up with our 4-man LB
crew returning only one starter (and a rookie last year at that), from the positions they played/started at last year.
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To be honest, he isnt going to sign a contract here unless he starts this season.
If Peek doesn't start this year he will still most likely be a Texan the year after unless the Texans have given up on him. He will be a RFA so the Texans will tender him unless they consider him a complete bust--depending on the level of tender that will mean either a 3rd round pick, 1st round pick or 1st & 3rd round picks as compensation. The Texans have a right to match any offer made. With a mid or high tender by the Texans Peek probably wouldn't even get any offers--who is going to give up a 1st on a guy that hasn't been starting?

Having said that, I would suspect that the Texans will have just about given up on Peek if he can't break into the starting lineup at some point this season. With Capers talking about him being the most athletic LB on the team, if he isn't out there it is because they think he just doesn't get the mental aspect of the game.

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well, according to my dad, the texans coaching staff feels that peek needs to improve in pass coverage
Funny, one of the Texans' LB coaches said he was either their best or one of their best in coverage last year at some point. If coverage skills were keeping Peek on the bench Foreman should have been sitting right next to him.
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Funny, one of the Texans' LB coaches said he was either their best or one of their best in coverage last year at some point. If coverage skills were keeping Peek on the bench Foreman should have been sitting right next to him.
After reading that I had flashbacks of Foreman running around in a desperate attempt to keep up with a TE with his arms waving wildly over his head as the ball flies over his head and into the TE's hands.
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Peek has the physical ability to play OLB, and he does well in situations where there are obvious passing downs.

But he drives the coaches nuts with both his immaturity issues, and the inability for him the to grasp the system as a whole. John Granato on 610 said it best. In order for Peek to be an every down player, the coaches would have to "dumb it down" so that Peek could understand it.

And it fits. With the offseason moves that Casserly is making, it doesn't look to me that Peek is in their plans
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The Texans really have a bad track record regarding the way they've
handled several of their LBs and this situation with Sharper could get messy. For whatever reason, they screwed up with both Posey and Foley while all the
time admitting one of the teams biggest unfilled needs was improving the
pass rush - a prime job description of OLBs. And then theres Peek - last
year of his contract and they are reportedly finally making a push to work him into the starting lineup.
Babin is the only young LB they have really pushed as a starter and it still remains unclear why they so agressively pushed him ?
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I dont know what yall think but i love it when I see Peek out there getting all in somebodys @$$! I dont know why some guys are like," He is too immature, he needs to be under control" and i agree to a short extent but I love it when a player has a fire burning inside and they play with everything they got. Like after they get a tackle, they dont just stand up(Jamie Sharper) and walk back to the huddle, They get up clapping and hoopin and hollerin. I just think we shouldnt always try to control Peek, I think we should UNLEASH him.
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I hope we pick him. He is 272 pounds with decent speed. We need to get younger and speedier on defense
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...With the offseason moves that Casserly is making, it doesn't look to me that Peek is in their plans
With Dom in Madison today taking a look at Erasmus James, that doesn't bode well for Peek's future at ROLB. From the Chronic link above:

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The Texans have the 13th pick in the first round of next month's draft, and there are some intriguing prospects who project as outside linebackers in their 3-4 scheme. Today, Capers will attend the University of Wisconsin's pro day, presumably to get a better look at Erasmus James, considered one of the top three defensive end prospects in the draft.
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To me, Peeks problems wasn't his coverage skills, but his stopping the run techniques. How many times does he have to get hook and give up contain before he learns. That is what is keeeping him from being a everydown player. Last year, he basically only played on passing downs (mainly for his pass rush), but on 1 and 10 or 2 and 6 (rushing downs) he was too much of a liability.
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Run containment is one of Peek's weak areas. He isn't very smart either.
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Peek deserves a chance to be a starter. He brings a lot of energy to the defense.
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Run containment is one of Peek's weak areas. He isn't very smart either.

That's not cool!!
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you know this isn't the first time capers defense has been too complicated for a talented player...when he was up in carolina he had to bring in guys like kevin greene to play because none of the younger guys understood what was going on...that's why after greene retired capers team took a nose dive...in pittsburgh the samething happened with gildon and kirkland...that's why "dumbing down" the defense may not be a bad thing...just a wrong way of looking at it...i mean look at the players we've had in here to run the defense...clemons, peek, posey, wong, babin, etc...you can't tell me that all of these guys weren't smart...they had to get through college and into the pros some how...and sometimes the best thing a coach can do is keep it simple...better to have a simple game plan were everyone knows what they're doing so they can go full speed than a complex one that only works when players have been doing it for years and finally grasp the concepts
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Run containment is one of Peek's weak areas. He isn't very smart either.
And you know how smart he is how? Have you talked to the man? Dont even try to comment on a persons intelligence when you have no idea. I believe he graduted from college, which is a lot more than half the NFL can say. There is a difference between being stupid and trying to learn a new system. He never had the chances like Babin did of learning on the job, he had to learn watching from the sideline in games. Makes the learning curve take longer when you cant do things.
Run contain was a weak point for him, but I believe there were a couple games where the Dime package was in the whole game and there wasnt a play where he missed contain in those, and there werent any long runs against them. Case in point, which i have used multiple times, at Indy he had a goal line play where he waited on the left side and took down Edge at the line of scrimmage.
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you know this isn't the first time capers defense has been too complicated for a talented player...when he was up in carolina he had to bring in guys like kevin greene to play because none of the younger guys understood what was going on...that's why after greene retired capers team took a nose dive...in pittsburgh the samething happened with gildon and kirkland...that's why "dumbing down" the defense may not be a bad thing...just a wrong way of looking at it...i mean look at the players we've had in here to run the defense...clemons, peek, posey, wong, babin, etc...you can't tell me that all of these guys weren't smart...they had to get through college and into the pros some how...and sometimes the best thing a coach can do is keep it simple...better to have a simple game plan were everyone knows what they're doing so they can go full speed than a complex one that only works when players have been doing it for years and finally grasp the concepts
I agree with you on balance. I've never been a big fan of overly complex defenses because playing defense is all about react and chase. The less you have to think the better. That said, the Pats run a very complex scheme and so do the Titans. They always have fine defenses. Most of the time it takes a good 3 years to reach your peak as a starting OLB in most 3-4 defenses as a converted position player off the D-line. This will be the break out year for Peek or the break him year.
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