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Old 04-24-2010   #1
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Default So, it's done now.....

What do you think? Over all, how did the Texans do?

I think they did well. Would I give them an A? I wouldn't, but I would give them a B.
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I really liked the first 3 picks. Will trust them on the others. I think we got a steal with Dickerson. For now I would give them a B+
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I'm giving them an A- on this one.

I think there were some sneaky good picks in this draft.
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Default Re: So, it's done now.....

I think they did fairly well. They were able to find some real steals in this draft, and it certainly looks like we're in for an exciting brand of football. I'm anxious to see who we sign out of the UDFAs.
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Days 1-2 C+
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i give this draft a B! cant wait to see who they go after in free agency
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Default Re: So, it's done now.....

Preliminary thoughts (I reserve the right to change these)

Kareem Jackson- B+
Jackson is a tough corner with good athleticism, with the ability to play right away. That is what you want in the first round. Not an A because he will not be a spectacular player (like Cush was).

Ben Tate- B+
I dont like the fancy crap they did, but Tate fills a need and was my second favorite back after Gerhart.

Earl Mitchell- C-
Like the position, not so much the player. I think he will get washed out too many times, and will not provide the inside push people think he will.

Darryl Sharpton- D
Dislike the pick. LB depth was not this immediate of a need, and frankly, I do not see him becoming anything more than depth.

Garrett Graham- C-
Meh, not a huge fan. I think we were ok with TEs, but I understand being cautious. Still, I would have liked to see another position addressed.

Shelley Smith- B+
Smith is a nasty dude, something the OL needs. Mobile and strong, he should compete for playing time

Trindon Holliday- A
Holliday will immediately make this team more dangerous. Any time he touches the ball, he is a threat to go the distance.

Dorin Dickerson- B
Well, my gut reaction was WTF?! But then I learned he would be a receiver. Someone with this raw athleticism this late, good pick.

I would give this draft a C+/B-
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Really? why? At worst I could understand a C, but an F? I just can't see that.
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Default Re: So, it's done now.....

I'll start off by saying I am openly an apologist for the regime.

Kareem Jackson - A
He'll start, he'll hit, cover and work hard.

Ben Tate - A
He'll either start or be number one cab off the rank. Should be able to get some of those yards we left on the table last year.

Earl Mitchell - B
Fits the Dr's order for what the defense wants, skies the limit.

Darryl Sharpton - C
Muh. He'll be a back up, play special teams. Fill a hole in the starting line-up if needed. Worst pick of the day.

Garrett Graham - B
Drafted to cover injury issues and a guy with a well rounded game to be a solid every down player and starter in the league.

Shelley Smith - A+
Best pick of the draft. Strong, Quick, Aggressive and perfect for our system.

Trindon Holliday - A
PLAYMAKER with crazy speed.

Dorin Dickerson - C+
Very talented but learning new position..... worth a crack in the 7th

Overall A-
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....makes bad wine. I prefer beer.

everyones got an opinon, it's why I asked. But for the life of me, the first two picks and the last two we did quite well for the pick postions and the rounds. I just can't understand an F.
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very happy. a nice blend of immediate quality contributors in need position (jackson, tate & possibly shelley), possible long term homeruns who should contribute early as role players (holiday, shelley, graham, mitchell & dickerson), guys with good intangibles who'll compete and at worst be quality ST'ers & depth (mcmannis & sharpton)
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Really? why? At worst I could understand a C, but an F? I just can't see that.
I think people are scared to say what they really feel because we have had some pretty succesfull drafts as of late. Im not.

My thoughts.

Kareem Jackson- I can live with it but everyone thinks Wilson would of been better. This reeks of gettting cute because of overconfidence. They should of took the most talented player.

Ben Tate- another one I can live with but there was way better talent available.

Earl Mitchell- Cmon really??? This spot in the draft should contribute more than this guy will IMO.

Darryl Sharpton- Absolute waste of a pick with plenty of players left that could actually make the team.

Garrett Graham- I like GG but another TE????????

Sherrick McManis -

Shelley Smith- Reeks of another Colorodo favorites pick.

Trindon Holliday- 5'5" 160 Really?????

Dorin Dickerson- Best pick of the draft IMO.


They passed up alot talent in the middle and down rounds for players that probably wont contribute anything this year.

I would give this draft a F. JMO WE'LL SEE!!!!
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Default Re: So, it's done now.....

I was thinking a B, until I saw the post draft press conference with Smith and Kubiak. They talked me up to a B+.

The Texans NEEDED a CB and a RB in the worst way, and addressed those areas effectively in rounds one and two. The other guys taken in the following rounds look good on paper, and address most of the other areas of need to an adequate degree.

If I had to make an early projection of the Texan's first round pick for next year, it would probably be an interior offensive lineman. Perhaps a center.

There is no area of this team that could not potentially be upgraded. But that being said, there are no major holes that remain unfilled. The Texans go into next season with a roster that is adequate to field a solid starting lineup at every position. The interior offensive line is my only real area of concern.

They did a good job with the draft this year. I give them a B+.
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I think people are scared to say what they really feel because we have had some pretty succesfull drafts as of late. Im not.

My thoughts.

Kareem Jackson- I can live with it but everyone thinks Wilson would of been better. This reeks of gettting cute because of overconfidence. They should of took the most talented player.
Not everyone-some had Jackson rated higher

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- Such as? That fit our system better?

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Earl Mitchell- Cmon really??? This spot in the draft should contribute more than this guy will IMO.

Darryl Sharpton- Absolute waste of a pick with plenty of players left that could actually make the team.

Garrett Graham- I like GG but another TE????????

Sherrick McManis -

Shelley Smith- Reeks of another Colorodo favorites pick.

Trindon Holliday- 5'5" 160 Really?????

Dorin Dickerson- Best pick of the draft IMO.


They passed up alot talent in the middle and down rounds for players that probably wont contribute anything this year.

I would give this draft a F. JMO WE'LL SEE!!!!
When I started this reply you were giving them a C+/B-
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I think people are scared to say what they really feel because we have had some pretty succesfull drafts as of late. Im not.

My thoughts.

Kareem Jackson- I can live with it but everyone thinks Wilson would of been better. This reeks of gettting cute because of overconfidence. They should of took the most talented player.
Im not an expert, but many other folks that rate players say this guy is more pro ready than others. Cant see where its a bad pick.

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Ben Tate- another one I can live with but there was way better talent available.
He fits rather well into our ZBS offense.

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Earl Mitchell- Cmon really??? This spot in the draft should contribute more than this guy will IMO.
An unknown at this point. Seems like a good depth take to me. Which is OK by my book for the 3rd round.

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Darryl Sharpton- Absolute waste of a pick with plenty of players left that could actually make the team.
Hell make the team as a special teams player. So what, hes a 4th round pick. Big deal.

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Garrett Graham- I like GG but another TE????????
Questionable. But considering the ER ward necessary to take care of our current tight ends, not a bad pick

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Sherrick McManis -

Shelley Smith- Reeks of another Colorodo favorites pick.
Umnot sure what to say really

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Trindon Holliday- 5'5" 160 Really?????
A good special teams player. Its a 6th round choice, jesus what do you what?

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Dorin Dickerson- Best pick of the draft IMO.
LOL. Good player, well see.


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Kareem Jackson At first I was shocked, because I haven`t heard much of him and Kyle Wilson was available... after some reading Im excited. Sounds like exactly the kind of player we need. And being the most Pro-ready CB is huge! Remember how Cushing was supposed to be pro-ready but wouldn`t have too much upside? Or in the NBA, guys like Brandon Roy or Stephen Curry...

Ben Tate I was a little shock at the trade down and losing Gerhart - but this team still has too many holes to just give up those extra draft picks. Tate and Gerhart are graded pretty similar so I am really happy with this pick

Earl Mitchell Love the position, don`t know the player. Getting a pass rush from the inside would help a lot, but some other better known guys were still out there. In the end I just have to trust the FO.

Darryl Sharpton I am fine with adding depth, and that guy seems to be a player, but Id much prefered a player at a need position here.

Garrett Graham Good value, and we might need a TE with all the injuries going around. But Id prefered a FS or G/C.

Sherrick McManis Seems like a good pick up.

Shelley Smith An athletic zone blocking guard. I can live with that.

Trindon Holliday Love the pick! Will only see the field for a couple of plays per game, but it will be exciting to watch! Might make some highlight reels...

Dorin Dickerson Probably our best value pick. Seems like he will come in as a slot receiver, so I am fine with him.

Overall Id say we get something like a B... but you can`t really know until all those guys have hit the field.
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As ****ing drunk as I am, I'm amazed I got all the quotes right on my previous post. LOL
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Ok ... away we go ...

Jackson CB ... if he comes out next year , he'd be a top 5 pick . He's a victim of his name not being mentioned much at first but came on strong . B+

Tate RB ... good pick that I thought was a two horse race between him and Matthews . Like Jackson , he's a battle tested SEC player . B+

Mitchell DT ... I understand the gamble and like Earl's upside . Hehad 6.5 sacks last year . The other Dts on the board didn't have 6.5 of those for a career . He had the most potential of the gys that were there in the 3rd . B

Sharpton LB ... he'll probably be the Texans version of Bill Bates . C+

Graham TE ... Ok ... C-

McManis ... quality guy decent player ... C+

Shelley Smith ... prototype ZBS guy . Competetive guy with a nasty streak , also is a above average athlete . B+

Holliday ... 4.21 40 ... what else do you want in the 6th besides a big play guy . I see him making folks standup for the kickoffs . B+

Dickerson ... WR ... yu don't grow guys who are 6'2 and 226 that run a 4.4 on trees . I wanted him in the 4th round in our mocks and he had a 2nd round grade . He'll be the best of JJ and Walter in one . A

I'd say that probably gives them a B
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