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Old 04-16-2010   #1
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Default Eagles eyeing a safety--and they have the ammo to trade up.

Per PFT:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-for-a-safety/

No team is more aggressive in trading and acquiring draft picks than the Eagles, and they have two picks in each of the second, third and fourth rounds (plus their first rounder at 24) to play with.

If the report that they want a safety is accurate, then we can probably go ahead and cross Earl Thomas off the board. Unless the Iggles get really ornery and make a play for Berry.
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Default Re: Eagles eyeing a safety--and they have the ammo to trade up.

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-for-a-safety/

No team is more aggressive in trading and acquiring draft picks than the Eagles, and they have two picks in each of the second, third and fourth rounds (plus their first rounder at 24) to play with.

If the report that they want a safety is accurate, then we can probably go ahead and cross Earl Thomas off the board. Unless the Iggles get really ornery and make a play for Berry.
I've done two mocks thus far with Philly as my team. I wanted to trade up during both of those drafts. Let's see how they handle this. They certainly have the ammunition.
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Default Re: Eagles eyeing a safety--and they have the ammo to trade up.

Don't really think we'll have to worry about either Berry or Thomas being available at #20, Eagles or not. Mayock has already promoted Thomas to #1 safety over Berry. Dan Williams will probably be gone also.

We will probably have our choice of RB or CB of #20. I hate the idea of a RB in 1st round because there are really good CB's and RB's available in rounds 2 and 3. I really wish we could trade down for a second plus #3 or #4. Even Linval Joseph is rising into the 2nd and maybe 1st in some mocks along with Mount Cody.
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Default Re: Eagles eyeing a safety--and they have the ammo to trade up.

Doesnt really affect me. One of the following players will fall to us.

Thomas
Wilson
Robinson
Iupati
Mays
Williams
Mathews
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Default Re: Eagles eyeing a safety--and they have the ammo to trade up.

Well if they want to throw draft picks around I'm a taker.

I'm not so sold on any one prospect that might fall to us that I wouldn't consider trading down and getting extra picks.
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Default Re: Eagles eyeing a safety--and they have the ammo to trade up.

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Per PFT:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-for-a-safety/

No team is more aggressive in trading and acquiring draft picks than the Eagles, and they have two picks in each of the second, third and fourth rounds (plus their first rounder at 24) to play with.

If the report that they want a safety is accurate, then we can probably go ahead and cross Earl Thomas off the board. Unless the Iggles get really ornery and make a play for Berry.
Here's the trade that I would like with the Eagles:

our #20 and maybe #187 or #197 for #37, #70, and #105.

If Thomas was there, or possibly Mays or even Nate Allen, the Eagles could go get there guy and still keep their 1st at 24 and also their 2nd round pick... They have a ton of picks, so this might be intriguing to them.
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Default Re: Eagles eyeing a safety--and they have the ammo to trade up.

Over the past years when the Eagles bring players into Philly, they draft one or two from that list. Examples of this are Kolb, Jackson, McCoy and Celek.
Following are some, but not all, of the players who have been to Philly.

Eric Berry
Jerry Hughes
Brian Bulaga
John Jerry
Brian Price
Jonathan Dwyer
Toby Gerhart
Charles Scott

As you can see there is one safety on this list, Berry. But do the Eagles give up a heard of picks to move way up to get him? I personally don't think so. I think they brought him in for a look see and will go after him if, and only if he startes to drop. But so will a lot of teams.
This is also my thinking on Bulaga.

If they stay at their present pick, I think that pick will be Hughes if he is there.
Hughes could do for the other side on the line in the pass rush what Trent Cole does and take pressure off Cole. This ia a spot that needs to be addresed.
Dwyer, Gerhart, Price, and Jerry are second round look sees. Scott is someone for later on who was hurt last year, but could become a Buckholder type with the Eagles .

The Eagles have been reported to have a lot of interest in Ricky Sapp, though he has not come to Philly.

Also look for the Eagles to draft a yound QB to develop behind Kolb.
The names of those looked at are:
John Skelton Fordham
Jarrett Brown WVA
Zac Roberson Okla. St.

I look for the Eagles to trade down more so then up. Deal with a team like the Browns, Bills, or Kansas Cith for their second round pick this year and the first next year. The Eagles have a lot of lower round picks to give up along with the two seconds.
The most improtant pick they have in this draft is the pick they got for McNabb. The player taken there will be looked at as this is the guy who we got for McNabb. He better be a player. If they could turn that pick into a first from a bad team next year and it becomes a top 10, this will take a great deal of pressure off the FO in geting something really good for McNabb.

Does any of this happen? I have no idea. We find out this week, thank God.
Hang in there. It is almost here.
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Default Re: Eagles eyeing a safety--and they have the ammo to trade up.

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Here's the trade that I would like with the Eagles:

our #20 and maybe #187 or #197 for #37, #70, and #105.

If Thomas was there, or possibly Mays or even Nate Allen, the Eagles could go get there guy and still keep their 1st at 24 and also their 2nd round pick... They have a ton of picks, so this might be intriguing to them.
That could get us a draft like this: (using draftsite.com)

37 Devin McCourty CB Rutgers
51 John Jerry OG Mississippi
70 Major Wright* S Florida
105 Lamarr Houston DT Texas
118 James Starks RB Buffalo

I'd have to look at this one real hard. (Not that the board is going to fall this nice).

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That could get us a draft like this: (using draftsite.com)

37 Devin McCourty CB Rutgers
51 John Jerry OG Mississippi
70 Major Wright* S Florida
105 Lamarr Houston DT Texas
118 James Starks RB Buffalo

I'd have to look at this one real hard. (Not the board is going to fall this nice).
I like this:
37 Dwyer RB
51 Pat. Robinson CB
70 Asamoah G
81 Chris Cook CB
105 Geno Atkins DT
118 Lamar Houston DT

I know there is no safety listed, but I love the two corners as well as working with Glover Quin to play FS in some packages.
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37 Dwyer RB
So you think Dwyer is the 3rd best RB in the draft? Wow.
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So you think Dwyer is the 3rd best RB in the draft? Wow.
I think Dwyer and Matthews will end up being the two best RBs in the draft.
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Default Re: Eagles eyeing a safety--and they have the ammo to trade up.

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Per PFT:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-for-a-safety/

No team is more aggressive in trading and acquiring draft picks than the Eagles, and they have two picks in each of the second, third and fourth rounds (plus their first rounder at 24) to play with.

If the report that they want a safety is accurate, then we can probably go ahead and cross Earl Thomas off the board. Unless the Iggles get really ornery and make a play for Berry.
Eagles want a physical Safety to replace Brain Dawkins then Earl Thomas is not the guy but Taylor Mays is. Mays is more philly style football.
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I think Dwyer and Matthews will end up being the two best RBs in the draft.
I think Dwyer is going to be a flop.
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Over the past years when the Eagles bring players into Philly, they draft one or two from that list. Examples of this are Kolb, Jackson, McCoy and Celek.
Following are some, but not all, of the players who have been to Philly.

Eric Berry
Jerry Hughes
Brian Bulaga
John Jerry
Brian Price
Jonathan Dwyer
Toby Gerhart
Charles Scott

As you can see there is one safety on this list, Berry. But do the Eagles give up a heard of picks to move way up to get him? I personally don't think so. I think they brought him in for a look see and will go after him if, and only if he startes to drop. But so will a lot of teams.
This is also my thinking on Bulaga.



Maybe. It doesn't make sense but in some ways it does. I know Tampa Bay is looking to move out and if Philly goes up that high they can grab Eric Berry who is supposed to be the second comming of Ed Reed. Some people have Berry as the number one player but because he is not an OT or QB, he will likely fall.
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I think Dwyer is going to be a flop.

I disagree with you. Here's to hoping one of us is right.
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I think Dwyer is going to be a flop.
I think Hardesty will be a flop. I don't want anything to do with him!

It'll be interesting to see what happens.
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I think Hardesty will be a flop. I don't want anything to do with him!

It'll be interesting to see what happens.
If Hardesty stays healthy and is drafted in the right situation he will be the best RB in this class.

I'm not advocating the Texans taking Hardesty. (Too injury prone)

DM: I'm somewhere between you and I-cak on Dwyer. Dwyer is a good RB who I believe will be a productive RB. He has ZBS experience under Gailey and did very in it. If Dwyer is there in the 3rd rd I'm for trading up to get him.

Dwyer reminds me Shonn Greene.
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I think Dwyer is going to be a flop.
I won't say flop, will say we had the very same thing on the roster last year in Cris Brown. And why we'd run helter shelter to squander a two for that I have no idea ?
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Default Re: Eagles eyeing a safety--and they have the ammo to trade up.

Here's info related to this thread. I think the Eagles will stay pat and be able to get Mcourty and Dwyer doesn't seem to be starting on the right foot.

NFL | McCoy, Dwyer reportedly fail drug tests
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Jay Glazer and Alex Marvez, of FOXSports.com, reports Southern California TE Anthony McCoy and Georgia Tech RB Jonathan Dwyer reportedly flunked their drug tests at the NFL Scouting Combine, according to a source. Dwyer allegedly tested positive for amphetamines, but he had clearance to take a prescribed medicine for a medical condition. McCoy reportedly tested positive for marijuana.



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Eagles | McCourty on team's radar
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Chris Melchiorre, of the Philadelphia Inquirer, reports Rutgers CB Devin McCourty is on the Philadelphia Eagles' radar. Eagles defensive backs coach Dick Jauron spoke with McCourty at the NFL Scouting Combine and had positive works after watching him at Rutgers' Pro Day March 10.



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If Hardesty stays healthy and is drafted in the right situation he will be the best RB in this class.

I'm not advocating the Texans taking Hardesty. (Too injury prone)

DM: I'm somewhere between you and I-cak on Dwyer. Dwyer is a good RB who I believe will be a productive RB. He has ZBS experience under Gailey and did very in it. If Dwyer is there in the 3rd rd I'm for trading up to get him.

Dwyer reminds me Shonn Greene.
Barrett is also a big fan of Hardesty and I'm just not getting it. Granted, I don't watch a ton of college football, but judging from his 10 minute highlight reel that I saw, he seems to have relatively poor balance. With RBs, that is the first thing I look at.
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