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Since he is the draft guru....if anyone has any questions this hour

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Thanks! He may be the best mock drafter out there.
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Thanks! He may be the best mock drafter out there.
Yup, I love his talk. He has a ton of knowledge. Of course being a DMN chat he is getting Cowboy questions but he is taking whomever wants to ask and is giving out some good info on players.
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Yup, I love his talk. He has a ton of knowledge. Of course being a DMN chat he is getting Cowboy questions but he is taking whomever wants to ask and is giving out some good info on players.
Yep! I found this really ineresting:

Gosselin: I think Taylor Mays will be a better safety than he was at Southern Cal because the NFL will ask him to do more. He has the measurables to do whatever you ask of him with that size (6-3, 230) and speed (4.34). But comparisons to Roy Williams seem to have some NFL teams running scared. So Mays has a sliding value right now. But I think some team is going to get a really good player at a great value when he finally comes off the board. Wednesday April 7, 2010 11:43 Rick Gosselin
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Yep! I found this really ineresting:

Gosselin: I think Taylor Mays will be a better safety than he was at Southern Cal because the NFL will ask him to do more. He has the measurables to do whatever you ask of him with that size (6-3, 230) and speed (4.34). But comparisons to Roy Williams seem to have some NFL teams running scared. So Mays has a sliding value right now. But I think some team is going to get a really good player at a great value when he finally comes off the board. Wednesday April 7, 2010 11:43 Rick Gosselin
Its so strange. A year ago alot of us fans would have killed to draft this guy with the 15th pick, and few if any thought he would slide enough for us to even have a chance at him. This year we want to pass on him @ #20. Like I said strange.
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Its so strange. A year ago alot of us fans would have killed to draft this guy with the 15th pick, and few if any thought he would slide enough for us to even have a chance at him. This year we want to pass on him @ #20. Like I said strange.
Strangely reminiscent of Dave Ragone's situation back in the day.
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Its so strange. A year ago alot of us fans would have killed to draft this guy with the 15th pick, and few if any thought he would slide enough for us to even have a chance at him. This year we want to pass on him @ #20. Like I said strange.
What's so strange about it ? He was called upon to do more for his team in his senior year, in part because the 2009 defense dropped off so much below the level of the outstanding 2008 USC defense because so many talented players were lost to graduation, and his ability (ah, make that very obvious inabilty) to defend against the pass was exposed. Just like QB Leinert back in 2006, he should have left while his ratings were at their peak.
Mike Myoc has him sliding into the second round, kinda like the USC MIKE backer did last year I suppose.
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I'm just not sold that any safety, hell even Ed Reed in his prime, could look like a dominating player when the defense was as bad and depleted as the USC defense. That said, I'm not sold on drafting the guy, but he still could come in and be a damn good safety.
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MAYS!!

Every now and then he sucks me back in.... I could live with drafting him.

It would be an exciting ride to see if he soars or crashes and burns.
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Mays could make a hell of a career as a SS in the NFL. I don't know why people are so scared of him. If used correctly, he has the ability to make multiple Pro Bowls.

If we didn't already have Pollard then I would be all over this guy.
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Its so strange. A year ago alot of us fans would have killed to draft this guy with the 15th pick, and few if any thought he would slide enough for us to even have a chance at him. This year we want to pass on him @ #20. Like I said strange.
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I couldn't help dropping a little Korn but it really fits here. Mays got exposed for what he is. When he is not surrounded by 2 pro bowl linebackers and a solid Mike, he got exposed. Mays threw his weight around and hit like a train effectively becuase he had an awesome Dline and LB corp to clean up for him. When that was taken away, his safety net was gone.

He is more of a SS or even LB prospect. Some people see Roy Williams in him, but I think former USC Safety Darnell Bing may be a better comparison. Bing was hard hitting safety who turned out to be a tweaner. He was not quite a saftey not quite an OLB. Oakland took him in the 4th and tried him at OLB and then back at saftey. Know where he is now? On the Texans practice Squad.

In my mind, Mays is best suited for a 3-4 D where he would have 2 very good tackling LBs in front of him and at least one other very good tackling OLB or CB helping him. In this way he is less exposed and his strenghts can be utilized and weaknesses hidden.
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I couldn't help dropping a little Korn but it really fits here. Mays got exposed for what he is. When he is not surrounded by 2 pro bowl linebackers and a solid Mike, he got exposed. Mays threw his weight around and hit like a train effectively becuase he had an awesome Dline and LB corp to clean up for him. When that was taken away, his safety net was gone.

He is more of a SS or even LB prospect. Some people see Roy Williams in him, but I think former USC Safety Darnell Bing may be a better comparison. Bing was hard hitting safety who turned out to be a tweaner. He was not quite a saftey not quite an OLB. Oakland took him in the 4th and tried him at OLB and then back at saftey. Know where he is now? On the Texans practice Squad.

In my mind, Mays is best suited for a 3-4 D where he would have 2 very good tackling LBs in front of him and at least one other very good tackling OLB or CB helping him. In this way he is less exposed and his strenghts can be utilized and weaknesses hidden.
Bing was too slow to play safety. His fourty time was around 4.8... Mays has elite speed. Now, you could compare him to CC Brown, for instance, if you don't think he can handle Safety duties. But, Bing's problem is he's simply too slow to play in the secondary.
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From Gosselin's series on draft prospects by position. Today, Running Backs:

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There have been three running backs or fewer in the first round of seven of the last 10 drafts, and 2010 should continue that trend. Of the three top backs, two of them fall below the NFL's size standard (under 200 pounds).

1. Ryan Mathews Fresno State 5-11 ˝ 218 NCAA rushing leader
2. C.J. Spiller
Clemson 5-10 ˝ 196 4.27 speed in the 40
3. Jahvid Best
California 5-10 199 6.1 yards per carry in 2009
4. Ben Tate Auburn 5-11 220 12 career 100-yard games
5. Montario Hardesty Tennessee 5-11 ˝ 225 Knees are a concern
6. Toby Gerhart Stanford 6-0 231 Walker Award winner
7. Jonathan Dwyer Georgia Tech 5-11 229 35 career rushing TDs
8. Joe McKnight Southern Cal 5-11 198 6.5 yards per career carry
9. Anthony Dixon Mississippi State 6-0 ˝ 233 910 career carries
10. Charles Scott LSU 5-11 238 32 TDs in 434 career carries
11. LaGarrette Blount Oregon 6-0 ˝ 241 Junior college transfer
12. Lonyae Miller Fresno State 5-11 ˝ 221 Backup to Mathews
13. James Starks Buffalo 6-2 218 Missed 2009 with injury
14. Deji Karim Southern Illinois 5-8 ˝ 209 4.38 speed in the 40
15. Brandon Minor Michigan 6-0 214 Only started six career games
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Ryan Mathews, Fresno State

Mathews completed a rare double in 2009 when he led the NCAA in rushing with 1,808 yards. Mathews also led the nation in rushing as a high school senior with 3,396 yards. He led all NCAA freshmen with 14 touchdowns in 2007 but missed five games with a knee injury in 2008. Then he set school records in 2009 for rushing yards in a season and consecutive 100-yard games (nine). Mathews has the size (218 pounds) and speed (4.41 in the 40) the NFL covets.
First, it's important to remember that Gosselin is not an internet draft guru. He's a pro football reporter, and one of the very best in the business. So these aren't his opinions, they are the collective opinion of his vast network of contacts throughout the NFL.

While CJ Spiller has more hype, it seems NFL teams are more comfortable with Mathews' prototypical size. What's interesting is that in a recent chat with the Draftguys, Lance Zierlein leaked that his source on the Texans has the team favoring Spiller.

While many draftniks have praised this class of RBs, Gosselin has them rated only a 3 on a scale of 10. I tend to agree, as there are a lot of RBs rated in the 2nd/3rd round area with big question marks. That's why, coupled with Slaton's injury uncertainty, I am a proponent of the Texans selecting a RB with their 1st round pick.
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Lucky, you took the words out of my mouth. Additionally, when you look at whose drafting after us in rd 1 and before us in rd 2, I see a lot of potential landing spots for the RBs. Waiting until 51 could leave us holding the bag again.
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Lucky, you took the words out of my mouth. Additionally, when you look at whose drafting after us in rd 1 and before us in rd 2, I see a lot of potential landing spots for the RBs. Waiting until 51 could leave us holding the bag again.
I dont see all the top backs going before 51. Spiller and Mathews will be gone, but shoot, I am not really a fan of Mathews, and Spiller will likely go before 20, so it is a moot point.

The next tier consists of Best (dont want), Dwyer (don't want), Hardesty (don't want), Tate (tolerable) and Gerhart (target). Best will likely be taken in the early second, but other than that, it is a crapshoot. But there will be backs available at 51 that people like.
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I dont see all the top backs going before 51. Spiller and Mathews will be gone, but shoot, I am not really a fan of Mathews, and Spiller will likely go before 20, so it is a moot point.

The next tier consists of Best (dont want), Dwyer (don't want), Hardesty (don't want), Tate(target) and Gerhart(tolerable) . Best will likely be taken in the early second, but other than that, it is a crapshoot. But there will be backs available at 51 that people like.
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Eh, to each their own. But Tate would be more preferable than Hardesty or Dwyer, thats f'sho.
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Eh, to each their own. But Tate would be more preferable than Hardesty or Dwyer, thats f'sho.
Yeah, actually I would be pleased if we drafted Mathews, Tate or Gerhart. Hardesty or Dwyer and I would be
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I dont see all the top backs going before 51. Spiller and Mathews will be gone, but shoot, I am not really a fan of Mathews, and Spiller will likely go before 20, so it is a moot point.

The next tier consists of Best (dont want), Dwyer (don't want), Hardesty (don't want), Tate (tolerable) and Gerhart (target). Best will likely be taken in the early second, but other than that, it is a crapshoot. But there will be backs available at 51 that people like.
The only RBs that I think will be there for the Texans that would be considered starters are Mathews, Tate, and Gerhardt. I think these 3 could be gone by 51 looking at who's picking after 20 and before 51. I could be wrong though
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Gosselin's 2nd mock is out, with the Texans selecting Earl Thomas:

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The Texans in dire need of a playmaker at the back end
Hard to argue with this pick, considering Haden, Wilson, Mathews, and Spiller are all off the board. In Gosselin's 1st mock, he had the Texans taking CJ Spiller. The first mock was based upon best available player, the 2nd is based upon team need, his final mock (on Thursday) will be his best guess on who is going where.

Surprises?

McCoy over Suh
Clausen #4 to the Skins (I can't see that)
Wilson going #8 to Oakland (Davis has made worse picks)
Mathews at #12 to Miami (He can run the Wildcat)
Bulaga dropping to Atlanta at #19
Gronkowski in the picked in the 1st, by the Ravens
Bay Bay Thomas ahead of Dez Bryant
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