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Old 04-07-2010   #1
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Cool McClain says RB> O-Line

On 610 today a caller asked what McClain though about fixing the O-line, citing them as the reason we failed to get 1 yard several times last year.

McClain said nothing to fix, the O-Line was great in 08, injuries hurt them in 09. All we need is a good RB and we'll have a great running game.

Correct me if I am mistaken - Pitts was hurt and is now gone. Briesel was the other major injury.

So essentially McClain is implying (or I am inferring) if we put Briesel back and draft a 1st round running back, we'll have a great running game? And the fact our O-line got pushed back time after time last year goes away or is fixed....???
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Default Re: McClain says RB> O-Line

You just have to look at the two times we couldn't get the TD from the 1 and ask yourself who really did bad. I'm sorry but the OL wasn't pushing jack and we barely could get a 100 yard rusher. We did it only 3 times.
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Default Re: McClain says RB> O-Line

McClain...'niff said, right?
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Default Re: McClain says RB> O-Line

Haven't you learned by now? McClain has no more insight than 98% of the members of this board. He has no inside info from the Texans and his speculations and rumblings are clueless. Check his pre-draft quotes from last year.
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Default Re: McClain says RB> O-Line

You've got to be kidding me? He actually said that?

I had a friend from out of town ramble to me right after the season, "You guys need a running back, that's all you guys really need, blah, blah, blah..."

I had to stop her mid-sentence. I said, "Look, sure, we need a running back. But anyone who takes a good look at this team will see that our running problems had a lot to do with our offensive line than it did with our running back."


I mean, come on. Anyone who says we don't have a problem with our O-Line is just DUMB.
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Default Re: McClain says RB> O-Line

Perhaps Mclain is looking at it from a 1st round draft pick perspective. Then again that may be giving him too much credit.
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Default Re: McClain says RB> O-Line

"good running back for a great running game". Does that even make sense? So he is saying that our O-line is so amazing that it can make good running backs look great? Did he watch a Texans game last year?
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Default Re: McClain says RB> O-Line

I heard that this morning too. I think 2009 was a factor of both.

2008 - We had all 5 OL starters play the entire season together. That is incredible and the biggest reason why we rushed so well that year. The depth really had me worried worried though.

2009 - We lost our two starting guards. Myers was in the middle, now playing next to "decent" backup guards but difinitely not starting material guards at this point. That weakens all 3 interior spots and even weakens both tackles. This is set up for failure. Also this season, the RB's - Slaton in particular - underperformed. The combination of all this was terrible.

Now McClain just says "oh it was injuries to the OL, next year this probably won't happen". Well, we lose our starting LG Pitts and he was the one injured. Is Wade Smith going to take that spot and be just as good or better? Brisiel is coming off his injury, how is he going to come back? Plus it's not like he was a really great RG in the first place, it's not like we're getting a probowler back in the line up. Studdard/Caldwell got some playing time but is it enough experience and reps that they're comfortable and the best option at the G positions?

I think and hope our OL will be better than they were last year. FA Smith, I think, should be better than Studdard was last year or would have done better at RG than what we had last year. Pitts is gone. Will Brisiel play on the same level as he was pre-injury?

There's still just too many question marks for me to dismiss the OL. Not saying we need to take a guy in the 1st round but that's probably more of a declaration of what Guards would be available to us. I think the value in G will be 2nd -4th.
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Default Re: McClain says RB> O-Line

He did say that he thinks a RB, CB, DT and OL will be selected with our first 4 picks and I totally agree with him. I also see another CB taken (maybe a CB/S tweener), maybe a true S, probably another OL and maybe another RB!
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He did say that he thinks a RB, CB, DT and OL will be selected with our first 4 picks and I totally agree with him. I also see another CB taken (maybe a CB/S tweener), maybe a true S, probably another OL and maybe another RB!
No offense OMT but he basically just rifled off the 4 main needs.

If McClain said it, it has holes. The guy's football knowledge is less than most people here. His chat online and his talks are basically a bunch of nothing.
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No offense OMT but he basically just rifled off the 4 main needs.

If McClain said it, it has holes. The guy's football knowledge is less than most people here. His chat online and his talks are basically a bunch of nothing.
LOL, I hear you on that. I just think we're going to see really good value at DT, CB and OL in the 2nd - 4th so BPA will probably match up with those needs. I really like the RB's in this area too. So in my perfect world we'd be able to trade down and get more bang for the buck.
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LOL, I hear you on that. I just think we're going to see really good value at DT, CB and OL in the 2nd - 4th so BPA will probably match up with those needs. I really like the RB's in this area too. So in my perfect world we'd be able to trade down and get more bang for the buck.
True!I think this draft is deep to target those needs in the top 4 rounds. Honestly, I always have said that if a top RB is there take them but I think in this draft OL might start flying off the board so we will see how that plays out.
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McLain is a moron...
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Cool Re: McClain says RB> O-Line

I believe he was not saying we would not draft OL at all, but it's not a priority because the 10 line looks really good based on 08 and if we stick a good RB in there we'll see the sudden ability to get 1 yard when it counts.
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When I was a kid, I used to play electronic football. Unless the OL pieces could split or push back the DL pieces, the RB piece would be hopelessly bouncing off of the OL pieces in front of it and moving aimlesly, usually in reverse direction or infinitely travelling in circles in the backfield.

I conjured up this same picture when I watched the Texans last year. Yes, we need an RB, but without a strong decent OL, that RB , just like last year, won't be going anywhere except backwards or in circles.
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When I was a kid, I used to play electronic football. Unless the OL pieces could split or push back the DL pieces, the RB piece would be hopelessly bouncing off of the OL pieces in front of it and moving aimlesly, usually in reverse direction or infinitely travelling in circles in the backfield.

I conjured up this same picture when I watched the Texans last year. Yes, we need an RB, but without a strong decent OL, that RB , just like last year, won't be going anywhere except backwards or in circles.
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As things stand now, I expect that elusive "chemistry" in the o-line to be found. They'll be gellin' this season.
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Because we run a ZBS run offense, our line isn't going to blow any team off the line of scrimmage. (I read somewhere that scheme requires a smaller, quicker lineman.) Quick counts and boot legs are all we have when we get to the goal line.
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Because we run a ZBS run offense, our line isn't going to blow any team off the line of scrimmage. (I read somewhere that scheme requires a smaller, quicker lineman.)
Yet right after this statement, the coaching staff then explains up the middle is the best play to get 1 yard. Heard these two statements multiple times last year and I have not stopped complaining since.
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