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Old 04-07-2010   #21
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I really struggled with the Texans selection and I had to change my mock up three different times after I received info on certain players and/or teams, but I'm pretty happy with the results of this one.

I did find out that there is more than one team who likes S. Weatherspoon more than Rolando McClain and Kansas City at 5 could be the trade up spot. I also expect the Giants at 15 to be a trade up spot as well as I think they will try and move back.

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Hey Lance. In your mock where do you go if Kyle Wilson is not available?
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Is anyone else leaning towards a trade back with San Diego? You know they have to value Mathews pretty highly. I say hold Mathews for a ransom, trade back w/SD and go CB/RB/DT.

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is anyone else leaning towards a trade back with san diego? You know they have to value mathews pretty highly. I say hold mathews for a ransom, trade back w/sd and go cb/rb/dt.

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I really struggled with the Texans selection and I had to change my mock up three different times after I received info on certain players and/or teams, but I'm pretty happy with the results of this one.

I did find out that there is more than one team who likes S. Weatherspoon more than Rolando McClain and Kansas City at 5 could be the trade up spot. I also expect the Giants at 15 to be a trade up spot as well as I think they will try and move back.

http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootba.../post_147.html


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Lance you are the first guy besides me that has mocked Gerhart in first. I really like him but most say 3rd or later. Rmartin65 and I have him in 2nd. Also, WIlson is a great pick @#20. Do you address the RB in 2nd or later?
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Is anyone else leaning towards a trade back with San Diego? You know they have to value Mathews pretty highly. I say hold Mathews for a ransom, trade back w/SD and go CB/RB/DT.

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I'd be fine with that. But I'd be fine with drafting Mathews if they didn't want to play, too.
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I'd be fine with that. But I'd be fine with drafting Mathews if they didn't want to play, too.
Yeah, so it's a win-win, right?
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If the Chargers (with a healthy Darren Sproles) "almost have to take" Mathews, due to their "tremendous need", how can the Texans (with a very questionable Steve Slaton) pass on the RB? How are the Chargers more needy at RB than the Texans?

Sorry, I still think Mathews is a better football player than Wilson. Or McCourty. I'm very worried that the Pats (loaded with extra picks) will jump ahead of the Texans and grab Mathews. Waiting for one of the very suspect 2nd tier backs to fall is setting the Texans up for a big fail in this draft.
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If the Chargers (with a healthy Darren Sproles) "almost have to take" Mathews, due to their "tremendous need", how can the Texans (with a very questionable Steve Slaton) pass on the RB? How are the Chargers more needy at RB than the Texans?

Sorry, I still think Mathews is a better football player than Wilson. Or McCourty. I'm very worried that the Pats (loaded with extra picks) will jump ahead of the Texans and grab Mathews. Waiting for one of the very suspect 2nd tier backs to fall is setting the Texans up for a big fail in this draft.
I guess for a more complete team like Chargers, any area of need takes on a much starker contrast.

As for a team trying to jump ahead of the Texans, I think the best case scenario is a team trading with the Texans so we can get some more picks.
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I honestly don't think it makes sense for the Texans to trade down, afterall this trade talk. yes I'm switching tones, what I'm seeing in all these mock drafts & even our fast draft with the best from this board, massive opportunities to select a better player than one would expect @ each pick. Guess I'm saying I have confidence in the Texans to out scout their competition & jump ahead without passing elite talent.

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He's still a rookie so it probably won't be an upgrade, but I do think he can have some games where he is a little better in man to man than Dunta was at times.
In other words, he won't start until the end of October. And as I've been posting....there is little chance that they will take a non day one starter with their first round pick. Noticed you conveniently picked Iupati with the nineteen. Denial doesn't wear well on you Lance.
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In other words, he won't start until the end of October. And as I've been posting....there is little chance that they will take a non day one starter with their first round pick. Noticed you conveniently picked Iupati with the nineteen. Denial doesn't wear well on you Lance.
A lot of mocks have Iupati gone before we pick.
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I honestly don't think it makes sense for the Texans to trade down, afterall this trade talk. yes I'm switching tones, what I'm seeing in all these mock drafts & even our fast draft with the best from this board, massive opportunities to select a better player than one would expect @ each pick. Guess I'm saying I have confidence in the Texans to out scout their competition & jump ahead without passing elite talent.

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Agreed

Would you trade a 2010 5th and a 2011 2nd to move into the pick 60/70range?

I think I would make that trade.

If you made the trade I believe you could get 4 starters and a rotatioal DL in rds 1-4.

The fast draft has proven that the first 100 players are starter quality. Right now for instance on the OL you've got practically all of the OG's,CB's several RB's that will be on the board in the 3rd. (AOA) should fall to that spot for instance.

That doesn't even include the S position. Which is still loaded in the fast draft.

The right 3rd rd pick will be more valuable in the 2010 draft,than a 2011 2nd rd pick (talent wise) IMHO
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Agreed

Would you trade a 2010 5th and a 2011 2nd to move into the pick 60/70range?

I think I would make that trade.

If you made the trade I believe you could get 4 starters and a rotatioal DL in rds 1-4.

The fast draft has proven that the first 100 players are starter quality. Right now for instance on the OL you've got practically all of the OG's,CB's several RB's that will be on the board in the 3rd. (AOA) should fall to that spot for instance.

That doesn't even include the S position. Which is still loaded in the fast draft.

The right 3rd rd pick will be more valuable in the 2010 draft,than a 2011 2nd rd pick (talent wise) IMHO
I would make that trade based on who's projected available as the second round ticks by. This draft mock wise, is crazy with players moving up and down daily. However, if a need player is there @ #20, Earl Thomas, Wilson or Haden (doubtful) I think I draft him. Mathews I look at a bit differently because I like Gerhart so much. Thomas & Gerhart > Mathews and Burnett. A great FS makes Quin a better gamble.
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A lot of mocks have Iupati gone before we pick.
A lot of teams could use him, warts and all that's for sure. Rare guy who fits both power o and ZBS schemes. three hundred and thirty three pound guy who moves like a three oh three pound guy, not many of those each decade. I've been noticing that the mockers trend is to have Okong going to Detroit. First thing that has to happen there is someone in Detroit is going to have to have and epiphany on Jeff Backus that he aint a OLT. And so far I have seen no indication of this. Last quote I saw from Schawrtz was exactly the opposite. He is standing by his man.

Well the heard has had a chance to pick apart Iupati for four weeks now. We'll see. I think one of the more interesting aspects of this draft for the Texans will be if both Mathews and Iupati are on the board the Texans get to chose inside out or outside in. I know what I'd do if my two second rounders franchise QB bloomed into a top five NFL QB. And I'd never look back. Shoring up the o-line is job numbero uno. Especially if a once a decade player falls right in your lap. But as you post he'll probably be gone.
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I know what I'd do if my two second rounders franchise QB bloomed into a top five NFL QB. And I'd never look back. Shoring up the o-line is job numbero uno. Especially if a once a decade player falls right in your lap. But as you post he'll probably be gone.
Great post, I added to your rep for that one.
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Lance you are the first guy besides me that has mocked Gerhart in first. I really like him but most say 3rd or later. Rmartin65 and I have him in 2nd. Also, WIlson is a great pick @#20. Do you address the RB in 2nd or later?

I think you have to address RB in the 3rd because you can't wait until pick 81 and expect to get a RB who can have a big impact on your running game.
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