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Old 04-12-2010   #141
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I hear you, Steph!! Hospitals are "Da Devil"....

I dunno why but when I was visiting Joe the other day, I was nervous and on edge the entire time I was there. I don't like hospitals. I also don't like seeing Joe suffering from a terrible headache only to have the nurse say he can't take anything for 45 minutes... BTW, 45 minutes later there was no nurse to give him 'something'...

Evil, evil people..
As usual nurses get the blame!! hohum, whats new!! Little do people know, who are not in the medical profession, how tedious our jobs really are. Not gonna adlib, just not worth it!

As for Joe! THANKS Jean for posting the link!! As much as you might care for someone, sometimes the best thing is to allow them time to heal. SOOOO many times I have seen patients FiNALLY get into a much needed state of SLEEP, just to be awakened by well meaning visitors. On the flip side, a patient can get very lonely and depressed when they have nothing to do but sit around and think about things. Call ahead, that's the best thing to do.
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As usual nurses get the blame!! hohum, whats new!! Little do people know, who are not in the medical profession, how tedious our jobs really are.
But you're the greatest in the world. That staff at St. Luke's can only aspire to be you!!!
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Get well soon Joe...e greeting sent.
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Yeah, sent him one myself.
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Just sent my e-greeting :-)
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But you're the greatest in the world. That staff at St. Luke's can only aspire to be you!!!

up!! Is that what you're tryin to do! lol

I can assure you, and everyone else who seems to think that nurses are EVIL, that we understand you needs, and complaints, much better than any of you know. I belong to a THANKLESS profession, and that's really sad. I can assure you, I will go to work tonight, work my butt off for 12 solid hours, give 100% of myself to my profession, and not have ONE patient or family member say "thank you!" Just about the most unappreciated profession out there! JMO!
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up!! Is that what you're tryin to do! lol

I can assure you, and everyone else who seems to think that nurses are EVIL, that we understand you needs, and complaints, much better than any of you know. I belong to a THANKLESS profession, and that's really sad. I can assure you, I will go to work tonight, work my butt off for 12 solid hours, give 100% of myself to my profession, and not have ONE patient or family member say "thank you!" Just about the most unappreciated profession out there! JMO!
Well if you were our nurse, we would have thanked you as we always do. Manners and respect still has meaning in our household.

I've spent a lot of time in hospitals. I've never had any major issues with nurses. If anything, it's the disconnect that I feel from doctors. Sometimes I feel like my nurses are my only link to reaching out for my doctor's humanity. There are some good and some bad.

True story. I once had a nurse set at St Joesph's named Hope and the other was named Mercy. Guess which one we liked... Mercy was brutal!
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I hear you, Steph!! Hospitals are "Da Devil"....

I dunno why but when I was visiting Joe the other day, I was nervous and on edge the entire time I was there. I don't like hospitals. I also don't like seeing Joe suffering from a terrible headache only to have the nurse say he can't take anything for 45 minutes... BTW, 45 minutes later there was no nurse to give him 'something'...

Evil, evil people..

Unfortunately, the type of headache Joe is experiencing is not the typical headache you can take something for and it's gone. His headache will be unrelenting until the blood clot irritating and putting pressure on his brain resorbs. Minimally, this will occur gradually over weeks. It is the type of headache that even with the strongest of pain medications will at best "take the edge off." Also, the apparent "requests" for such medications needs to be balanced with overdose and toxicity concerns associated with these not so benign medications. Although ICU nurses are charged with very demanding responsibilities, I, too, have had to counsel some concerning the timely delivery of "comfort" orders.

As an aside, I, myself, have been accused by some patients of withholding pain medications at times. However, as a physician, it is also important to remember that you can "kill a patient with kindness." Accordingly, I feel that there is no better example in medicine than the indiscriminate delivery or distribution of pain medication without regard to its "evils."
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up!! Is that what you're tryin to do! lol

I can assure you, and everyone else who seems to think that nurses are EVIL, that we understand you needs, and complaints, much better than any of you know. I belong to a THANKLESS profession, and that's really sad. I can assure you, I will go to work tonight, work my butt off for 12 solid hours, give 100% of myself to my profession, and not have ONE patient or family member say "thank you!" Just about the most unappreciated profession out there! JMO!
Sandy,

Good nurses like you and also specifically ICU nurses are underappreciated for the amount they do, for so many, in such a short period of time. Patients, their family and friends need to step back sometimes and understand that they or their loved ones have not been checked into a hotel primarily for comfort, they've been admitted to a hospital primarily for care. Most all good nurses do indeed try to deliver the latter with as much attention to the former as possible. Thank G-d for nurses........specifically ones like you.
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Good nurses like you and also specifically ICU nurses are underappreciated for the amount they do, for so many, in such a short period of time. Patients, their family and friends need to step back sometimes and understand that they or their loved ones have not been checked into a hotel primarily for comfort, they've been admitted to a hospital primarily for care. Most all good nurses do indeed try to deliver the latter with as much attention to the former as possible. Thank G-d for nurses........specifically ones like you.
I spent a great deal of time on the 8th floor of the Methodist hospital in the 90's and I couldn't do what they do . They had a nurse named Audrey who was great . I asked her a question that the Doctor didn't want to answer and my Dad didn't want to hear , in a way that was innocent enough but she got what I was asking and because of her answer I started calling my Mom's family out of state .
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The profession of nursing is like most others, some good, some need to be kicked into another job. My brother was in a Pasadena hospital with doctor orders for morphine "as needed". A nurse refused because he might become addicted. Mike replied, hope I am here long enough to get addicted. Two hours later another nurse whom I had worked with at another hospital came on duty and gave it to him.
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Sandy,

Good nurses like you and also specifically ICU nurses are underappreciated for the amount they do, for so many, in such a short period of time. Patients, their family and friends need to step back sometimes and understand that they or their loved ones have not been checked into a hotel primarily for comfort, they've been admitted to a hospital primarily for care. Most all good nurses do indeed try to deliver the latter with as much attention to the former as possible. Thank G-d for nurses........specifically ones like you.
I've spent a lot of time in hospital ICUs with various loved ones the past few years. The reality is that most nurses are wonderful. Unfortunately, many hospital doctor's are absolutely terds! They treat the nurses disrespectfully and they underutilize them as a resource out of some sort of superiority complex. Many of those doctors also can't be bothered with being paged or actually taking time for a thorough diagnosis. So, when a nurse refuses to give medication to a patient it is usually because they spend the entire day trying to plead with a doctor to spend two minutes to write a script. My grandmother was in ICU two weeks ago for an obvious stroke but it took those doctors 4 days to diagnosis it. The nursed paged the doctor one day at 3pm about a serious situation (multiple times) and we waited for 6 hours for a doctor to show up. When he did, he was irritated and dismissive.

And, let's not even talk about what it's like in ICU on the weekends!

Unfortunately for nurses, they are the patients and family members only representative for the hospital care. The only way to get anything done, sometimes, is to hound and pressure the nurses. Then, just maybe, they will risk dealing with those f+++in' doctors in order to get the family off their backs.
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Let's keep the e-greetings going for Joe and help him forget about those headaches a few minutes at a time.
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Nope, I think that educators have you beat on being the most unappreciated...lol...but it is all good. We all chose our professions because of our love for it and not to be recognized daily.
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Just sent Joe Texan and e-gretting wishing him a speedy recovery even though I dont know him or met him but were all family in this board and im here to support my fellow Texans fans.
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Unfortunately, the type of headache Joe is experiencing is not the typical headache you can take something for and it's gone. His headache will be unrelenting until the blood clot irritating and putting pressure on his brain resorbs. Minimally, this will occur gradually over weeks. It is the type of headache that even with the strongest of pain medications will at best "take the edge off." Also, the apparent "requests" for such medications needs to be balanced with overdose and toxicity concerns associated with these not so benign medications. Although ICU nurses are charged with very demanding responsibilities, I, too, have had to counsel some concerning the timely delivery of "comfort" orders.

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I wish you were my Mom's Dr., Cloak!

JMO, as a person who has experienced similar to what Joe is going through not that long ago...he really needs the love and support of those around him, I bet he is scared to death. BUT, when I was going through mine...I did not want anyone to see me in my situation, I was not 'me' for sometime. Everyone has their own way of dealing with stuff, just putting this scenario out there as I am not sure he is thinking the same way. This is some heavy duty chit to deal with. Just some food for thought...

Take care Joe, I can sympathize with you...
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After two extended hospital stays, I know what a pain they can be. Hang in there. Joe, get better!
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