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Old 04-23-2005   #81
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here is one of our "wasted" late round picks (I am only joking)
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D.Ragone 17 of 27 for 147 yards and 2TD's and no INT"S for a rating of
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What a waste....Think he'll stick around as a back up? He's looking pretty good over there.
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B.J. Symons finally got to play in his first game today. Symons was 6 of 12 for 67 yards, and ran for a TD. He came in drove Frankfurt down the field with their last posession in the game, and ended the drive with a one yard TD run to give Frankfurt it's only TD of the game.

Maybe Symons will start getting more playing time after his positive showing today.
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yah Akili Smith has been below average most of the time he has been out there, I really wish that they would put him on the freakin bench after this. BJ Symons is much better mentally and physically imo.
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does anyone have any pics of Ragone in action?
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I watched the Rhein game last night on the NFL Network, I'm not sure if it was a repeat or what, but I definitely think Ragone is going to be our #2 guy, he looked pretty sharp.
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Ragone's is probably going to be our #2. In another year or two he might be a low 1st round pick or a high 2nd at the rate he's going. The more I see of him over in NFLE the more I'm thinking that he's going to net us a draft pick next year or the year after.
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I haven't had a chance to watch all the game from last weekend yet, but I saw the first half. I agree...Rags is exceeding my expectations. He moves well and throws on the run better than I thought he could.

From what I've seen of the NFLEL games this year, he has the best O-line in the league, which counts for something, but I'd rather him build confidence in a situation like that and come back ready to bump Tony Banks to #3. Nothing against Banks, but what is Texans Offseason 2005 without a younger veteran thwacking a veteran out of his job?

Haven't seen Symons yet. Sounds like a good start, though. One more note about Ragone: he's taken some SERIOUS shots, several of which were penalized. At least in Week 1, he demonstrated toughness and kept coming back. Haven't seen the rest of this game, so I don't know how he responded to some of those shots in the first half. At one point he was motioning to come out of the game, but that's where I had to stop watching the recording.
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The game I watched last night they were talking in the second half about the shots he had taken inthe game, and he was still taking shots in the second half. I could tell a time or two he was a little shaken up, but he got right back under center and threw some really good passes, some while scrambling or on the run, and he hit the WR exactly where it needed to be thrown, I saw him thread a few needles, I am getting excited about having him here.
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The game I watched last night they were talking in the second half about the shots he had taken inthe game, and he was still taking shots in the second half. I could tell a time or two he was a little shaken up, but he got right back under center and threw some really good passes, some while scrambling or on the run, and he hit the WR exactly where it needed to be thrown, I saw him thread a few needles, I am getting excited about having him here.
Everyone (well not quite, but it seems that way) slams Ragone for the 2003 Jax game but IMO I was impressed by the kid. He got slammed like a hockey puck but kept coming back and trying to make things happen with his feet if nothing else was available. Kid is a gamer.
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what I like about him.. he is a left handed David Carr .. with that MEANING .. we don't have to change our offense if he gets in... he can throw the deep ball.
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....From what I've seen of the NFLEL games this year, he has the best O-line in the league, which counts for something, but I'd rather him build confidence in a situation like that and come back ready to bump Tony Banks to #3....
I have watched as much NFLEL as possible, and Ragone doesn't have the best O-LIne. From what I have seen so far, Cologn looks to have the best O-Line.
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I thought Cologne's OL had a Texan on it? The Texans seemed to have picked the right guys for this NFLE assignment.
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does anyone have any pics of Ragone in action?
there is one pix of ragone on the nfle site. but maybe you should try the berlin thunder site.
the admirals play the next game vs berlin saturday. unfortunately I'm not able to go to Berlin, but i can see the game sunday afternoon on tv.berlin.
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For the last three years of his college career, Dave Ragone was one of the nation’s most prolific quarterbacks at Louisville , completing 664 of 1,133 passes (58.6 percent), with 73 touchdowns and only 28 interceptions in 41 games as a starter.

The past two years have been a different story.

The Texans’ third-round pick in the 2003 NFL Draft has been faced with a predicament so many young signal-callers experience. With an entrenched starter and a quality veteran backup in front of him, Ragone has bided his time as a third-stringer, receiving few practice reps with the starters and seeing most of his time on the scout team. Other than two starts his rookie year, when David Carr and Tony Banks were injured, Ragone has been holding the clipboard on game day.

As hard as he worked on the practice field, Ragone yearned for some live game reps. His opportunity arrived near the end of last season when the Texans allocated him to NFL Europe. After consulting with offensive coordinator Chris Palmer and quarterbacks coach Greg Roman, Ragone decided it was a good opportunity to further his career.

“Especially at the quarterback position, the only way you really get better is by going out there and playing,” said Ragone, the starting quarterback for the Berlin Thunder. “Coach Palmer and coach Roman and I sat down and talked about it. We all agreed it was probably the best thing for me. When I told them that I would do it, I agreed to go and give it 100 percent.”

Although he was excited to get back behind center, Ragone felt a certain amount of trepidation as well. When you don’t see the field for so long, a certain amount of doubt can creep in.

“It’s tough when you don’t get a chance to play because you don’t know if you’re progressing,” Ragone said. “You just don’t know how your game is going to be because it’s been two years since the last time you got hit. It’s one of those things where you try to work on fundamentals, you try to work on the mental part of the game when you’re not playing so when you get a chance to play you can use it to your benefit.”

It turns out that playing quarterback is like riding a bike, at least for Ragone. He began the season against the Frankfurt Galaxy in a duel with quarterback Akili Smith, the Cincinnati Bengals’ third overall pick in the 1999 NFL Draft. Ragone passed for 179 yards, completing 69.5 percent of his throws with one touchdown and no interceptions in a resounding 30-7 win. He followed that performance against the Hamburg Sea Devils, passing for 168 yards with one touchdown and his first interception in a 15-13 win.

Ragone, who says the talent level in NFL Europe is better than Division I college football, currently leads the league in touchdown passes (6) and is second in the league in completion percentage (61.9) and passer rating (91.8). His two interceptions are tied for the lowest with three other starters. Additionally, the Thunder, who are tied with two other teams atop the standings with a 3-1 record, have the league’s second-best scoring offense, averaging 25.5 points per game.

“It’s awesome,” Ragone said of his experience so far. “It’s a chance to go out there and play. On game days you actually get a chance to do what you do. It’s a whole new feeling. It’s like being in college again where you’re the guy and I’m just grateful for the opportunity to come and play.”

His numbers are proof of his production, but what’s not evident on paper is the confidence Ragone has gained. There’s a tendency for players that have long layoffs to over-analyze situations. Ragone, however, is playing on instinct.


“I think my overall confidence grows with each one of my throws,” he said. “I feel more comfortable making different throws on the field and getting my feet set. Even if my feet aren’t set, I’m moving around the pocket and trying to make a throw while keeping my eye down the field.”

Oddly, one of the things Ragone missed most about not playing was what other players often dread. After two seasons of wearing the red jersey in practice, Ragone looked forward to some contact in NFL Europe.


“You don’t really know how that’s going to be until you play because in practice they blow the whistle when anyone gets close to the quarterback,” he said. “The coaches kind of take that away from you. When you’re out in a game, there’s no one there to protect you.”

It may seem difficult to learn a new offense with new teammates and be successful, but Ragone has made an easy transition with the Thunder, partly because of his background with the Texans. In fact, many of the play-action sets and running plays are the same between the two teams.

The biggest difference, said Ragone, has been increasing his pace in the huddle. In the NFL, the play clock is 45 seconds. In NFL Europe, it’s only 35 seconds.

“We do a good job in practice going up-tempo, just to get used to the fact that there’s not going to be that much time on the clock,” he said. “I think I’ve called time out once, and I’ve had one delay of game. Obviously, you have to speed your game up, but it does take a little time to get used to.”

Off the field, playing in NFL Europe can take its toll on players. For example, the comfort of traveling on a charter jet is replaced by waiting for trains with the general public. Delays are common, and the conditions aren’t ideal. It’s been a learning experience for Ragone, who says he has become more flexible.

“You come with an open mind, but you’re so used to your American culture,” he said. “Stores in Berlin close at 8 p.m., and on Sundays nothing is open. That’s something to get used to. You don’t have a car for a couple of months. So you’re traveling by bus and train. A lot of guys are used to having their car.”

Overall, Ragone is pleased to be playing in NFL Europe. His initial doubts have subsided and with six games remaining in the regular season, he has his team in position to make its fourth trip to the World Bowl in the past five seasons. Also, at his current pace, Ragone should be in the running for multiple postseason honors, something that he’s used to from his college-playing days.

“When you put a football team together in a few months, you don’t know what you’re getting,” Ragone said. “But I just came over here to get better, to be a leader and try to win football games. But more important, I want to come out and have fun with it.”
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Interestingly, QB and OL are two of the three positions where it has proven possible for players to transition from minor leagues to the NFL successfully (the third being WR). Here's hoping Brandon Evans gets a fair shot at starting when the time comes around - how much worse than our current interior O-line could he really be?

And who knows, maybe if Carr (heaven forbid) goes down in pre-season, Ragone will prove to be the second coming of Warner. No, I guess probably not. Although with our pass-blocking he might have a shot at old Kurt's all-time single-season concussion record.
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Houston Texans quarterback Dave Ragone completed 14 of 23 passes for 178 yards and toucddown, while Admirals quarterback Kurt Kittner, allocated by the Chicago Bears, hit on 21 of 40 passes for 283 yards and a touchdown but, crucially, three interceptions.
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Dave Ragone had thrown a touchdown pass to tight end John Frieser for the go-ahead score earlier in the second half and the Berlin Thunder defense had done enough to keep them ahead, limiting the Admirals to field goals and grabbing key interceptions.
Dave is still playing solid

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i think his performance in the NFLE has solidfied him as our number 2 QB...i remember casserly saying if he had a good run in europe he would be moved up in the depth chart
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Rags keeps playing like this TB will be looking for a spot next year as Dave will be the #2. Looks like CC made another good pick that will payoff.
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Before everyone gets too excited just remember that in terms of NFLE success, for every Kurt Warner, Jake Delhomme, and Brad Johnson, there's probably just as many or more Danny Wuerffel's.
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