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Old 03-30-2010   #1
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Owen Daniels has not signed his RFA tender from the Houston Texans yet, but both sides wisely reach an agreement that’s got him recovering from his torn ACL with the team.

The Texans just started their offseason conditioning program, and the team shared transcripts from three key guys including Daniels. He said he’s been around regularly through the offseason rehabilitating.

“I did not sign my tender, but the Texans stepped up and put a document together that allowed me to come out and still rehab and be around the guys, so it’s definitely an act of good faith on their part to protect themselves and me as well,” Daniels said. "They definitely want me around here with the guys rehabbing, so we put that together so even if something happens I’d be compensated and they’d be protected.”

He said his goal is to be good to go by June 1 and that he is on pace for that. He expects to be around the team for OTAs and minicamp, but obviously won’t be a full participant in on the field work.

Daniels also spoke optimistically about his contract situations.

“We’ve had some positive talks, my people and management, at the combine,” he said. “They’ve indicated they want to get something done; we’ve just got to wait ‘til I get healthy and cleared and see what happens.”
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Cool. Now Demeco and Pollard need contracts please.
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Cool. Now Demeco and Pollard need contracts please.
He's not signed for the season yet. It's just a contract that allows him to rehab without his actal contract being signed
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He's not signed for the season yet. It's just a contract that allows him to rehab without his actal contract being signed
I know but it's better than what we had.

BTW, big ups to OD for wanting to be with the team while injured and undergoing contract negotiations. These type of players are the answer to the problems.
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I know but it's better than what we had.

BTW, big ups to OD for wanting to be with the team while injured and undergoing contract negotiations. These type of players are the answer to the problems.
It is a big step in the right direction. Good to see it.
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Good news, now get it done with Demeco, and Pollard.
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I like this move.

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It is a big step in the right direction. Good to see it.
Exactly. Good news for both parties.
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Well OD feels good about it and now Demeco has been signed. Maybe we saved that FA money to buy back the guys we already got.

Can't wait for OD's deal to be done and for Pollard to get done too.
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Well OD feels good about it and now Demeco has been signed. Maybe we saved that FA money to buy back the guys we already got.

Can't wait for OD's deal to be done and for Pollard to get done too.
Od and Pollard are a bit trickier though. One is comming off an bad injury, and the other hasn't done it year in and year out. I think we'll have to stew a bit on these two. Great job on Demeco though, he has earned it and deserves every penny. Guess we are using the threat of walkout as an incentive to sign.
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Od and Pollard are a bit trickier though. One is comming off an bad injury, and the other hasn't done it year in and year out. I think we'll have to stew a bit on these two. Great job on Demeco though, he has earned it and deserves every penny. Guess we are using the threat of walkout as an incentive to sign.
Pollard was not a bad player with the Chiefs. From what I remember, he just got into an argument with a coach and got cut. He's still young and coming into his prime. I think he's a good investment.
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Getting Demeco, who very possibly along with Schaub and AJ is one of the teams 3 MVPs, signed is far, far mosre important than ODs signing who's situation I would put closer to that of Chester Pitts.
Now I know Pitts is a FA because he was an unrestricted FA whereas OD received a tender from the Texans because he was a restriced FA, but he's still just a good starter coming off of a season-ending injury who's recovery is still uncertain vs DeMeco who is in tip-top form who is practically invaluable to the franchise. Plus DeMeco is 2 younger than OD and without his injury history.
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Pollard was not a bad player with the Chiefs. From what I remember, he just got into an argument with a coach and got cut. He's still young and coming into his prime. I think he's a good investment.
I'm mot saying he was a bad player for the Chiefs, just that we need to see him in our system for more than 13 games befor we lock him up.
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Getting Demeco, who very possibly along with Schaub and AJ is one of the teams 3 MVPs, signed is far, far mosre important than ODs signing who's situation I would put closer to that of Chester Pitts.
Now I know Pitts is a FA because he was an unrestricted FA whereas OD received a tender from the Texans because he was a restriced FA, but he's still just a good starter coming off of a season-ending injury who's recovery is still uncertain vs DeMeco who is in tip-top form who is practically invaluable to the franchise. Plus DeMeco is 2 younger than OD and without his injury history.
At this point OD is not comparable to Pitts in the least. He is an integral part of the offense and a proven Pro Bowl player in his prime. ACL injuries are far less complicated than what Pitts had which is unfortunate for Pitts. I love Chester but Owen is a far superior talent. You aren't one of those that thinks OD is a "system" TE by chance are you?
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I'm mot saying he was a bad player for the Chiefs, just that we need to see him in our system for more than 13 games befor we lock him up.
Yeah, there's no reason to lock up Pollard long-term when we can just pay him 3 mil this year to make sure he is the real deal. Given that the Texans waited for DeMeco to make the Pro-bowl twice before they locked him up, I imagine they will sit on Pollard for at least one more year.
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Od and Pollard are a bit trickier though. One is comming off an bad injury, and the other hasn't done it year in and year out. I think we'll have to stew a bit on these two. Great job on Demeco though, he has earned it and deserves every penny. Guess we are using the threat of walkout as an incentive to sign.
Man your crazy. The ONLY reason why you didn't hear about Pollard before coming here was because he was in KC on terrible teams. Then KC tried to black ball him for having a dispute with HC and GM. Here are Pollards numbers.


YR TM G Combo TT Ast Sck Sfty PDef INT TD

09 Hou 13 102 81 21 1.5 0 7 4 1

08 KC 16 98 78 20 0.0 0 1 1 0

07 KC 16 90 74 16 1.0 1 7 2 0

06 KC 16 10 10.0 0 0.0 0 1 0 0

And the numbers he put up last year with the Texans were in only 13 games!! "Pay da man his money!"
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Pollard was not a bad player with the Chiefs. From what I remember, he just got into an argument with a coach and got cut. He's still young and coming into his prime. I think he's a good investment.
Concur.

Some say we need guys with attitude on our D and in the locker room. Pollard brings that.

Sign him.
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Man your crazy. The ONLY reason why you didn't hear about Pollard before coming here was because he was in KC on terrible teams. Then KC tried to black ball him for having a dispute with HC and GM. Here are Pollards numbers.


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09 Hou 13 102 81 21 1.5 0 7 4 1

08 KC 16 98 78 20 0.0 0 1 1 0

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And the numbers he put up last year with the Texans were in only 13 games!! "Pay da man his money!"
I'm not crazy, just want to see him play one more season in our system befor I lock him up. Makes me careful. The NFL is full of guys who play well, get long contracts, and never do a thing after. I don't think Pollard is that kind of guy, but I'd rather wait one more year.
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I'm not crazy, just want to see him play one more season in our system befor I lock him up. Makes me careful. The NFL is full of guys who play well, get long contracts, and never do a thing after. I don't think Pollard is that kind of guy, but I'd rather wait one more year.
He has done it for 3 years now and was reunited with his DB coach when he joined Houston. As far as seeing him play one more year in the Texans system, can you imagine the numbers if he was in camp with the Texans last year? Guy comes off the street after being cut and misses the 1st three weeks of the season and still finishes with over 100 total tackles on a defense that he was learning as the season went on.

Plus he was the vocal leader the defense needed and backed it up with his play! "Pay da man his money!"
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If they sign Pollard now they will get him for a much better price as they do not have to compete with any other teams and he has not had a "Breakout" season to make him an elite level safety. He is currently a "very good to excellent" safety but not elite. I think he has the potential to be up there though and they would be smart to lock him up now for a more reasonable price.
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