Cushing finishes third behind Willis & Ware for Butkus Award - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

IDEXAN · 03-24-2010

Willis edged the 2008 professional Butkus Award winner, Cowboys OLB DeMarcus Ware, who finished with 39 points (six first-place votes). NFL rookie and first-round draft pick Brian Cushing of the Texans finished third with 12 points, followed by Ray Lewis of the Ravens (nine points) and three players tied for fifth place — Karlos Dansby, who recently signed with the Dolphins; Shaun Phillips of the Chargers; and Elvis Dumervil of the Broncos.
http://www.profootballweekly.com/201...s-butkus-award
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Another impressive achievement for the rookie LB.

**Thorn** · 03-24-2010

Considering he's a rookie, that is very impressive.

We certainly got a winner in Cushing, that's for sure.

**False Start** · 03-24-2010

Cush is a bad, bad man.

TheIronDuke · 03-24-2010

Pretty impressive company to be in. He's a beast now but imagine how beastly he'll be with a couple of years of NFL experience.

BigBull17 · 03-24-2010

I hate that guys like Dumervile, Ware, and the 3-4 OLB's get lumped in with true LB'ers. It's a totally different position. Different skill sets.

**HOU-TEX** · 03-24-2010

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Originally Posted by False Start

Cush is a bad, bad man.

Dadgum, this is basically his entire season wrapped up in one picture. Knockin the piss outta somebody whilst cramming a few fingers down their throat.

Just hope he can remain somewhat healthy.

**Dutchrudder** · 03-24-2010

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Originally Posted by False Start

Cush is a bad, bad man.

FACEMASK!!!

... oh wait, that's not Brady, nevermind....

**eriadoc** · 03-24-2010

Is it facemasking if you reach under someone's facemask and rip their face off?

**HOU-TEX** · 03-24-2010

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Originally Posted by eriadoc

Is it facemasking if you reach under someone's facemask and rip their face off?

Not in HOU-TEX's book. As a matter of fact, I'd penalize the offense 15 yards for a *****-slap reception.

JWarren14 · 03-24-2010

With pink gloves to boot

gg no re · 03-24-2010

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Originally Posted by eriadoc

Is it facemasking if you reach under someone's facemask and rip their face off?

no that's degloving

facemasking is if he wears the face after he rips it off

Mari-OWNED! · 03-25-2010

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Originally Posted by BigBull17

I hate that guys like Dumervile, Ware, and the 3-4 OLB's get lumped in with true LB'ers. It's a totally different position. Different skill sets.

Totally agree. A 3-4 edge rusher and a 4-3 OLB are completely different.

**eriadoc** · 03-25-2010

So Willis, a MLB, won the award, and Ware, a 3-4 OLB placed second. That means that, according to the voters, Cush was the best 4-3 OLB in the league this year.

b0ng · 03-25-2010

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Originally Posted by Mari-OWNED!

Totally agree. A 3-4 edge rusher and a 4-3 OLB are completely different.

I don't understand why they aren't grouped with DE's. Didn't the NFLPA try to get 3-4 OLB's the same wage scale as DE's a few years ago?

**Texan_Bill** · 03-25-2010

Chuck Norris hides from "the Cush"!!

"The Cush" > pigeon

BigBull17 · 03-26-2010

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Originally Posted by b0ng

I don't understand why they aren't grouped with DE's. Didn't the NFLPA try to get 3-4 OLB's the same wage scale as DE's a few years ago?

Yeah, when Terrell Suggs was franchised.

**infantrycak** · 03-26-2010

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Originally Posted by b0ng

I don't understand why they aren't grouped with DE's. Didn't the NFLPA try to get 3-4 OLB's the same wage scale as DE's a few years ago?

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Originally Posted by BigBull17

Yeah, when Terrell Suggs was franchised.

Terrell Suggs tried to get himself classified as a DE for the increase in franchise tag arguing about the number of snaps he started with his hand on the ground. The union supported that effort but it was player specific rather than trying to get all 3-4 OLB's changed.

**False Start** · 03-26-2010

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Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

Chuck Norris hides from "the Cush"!!

"The Cush" > pigeon

I agree, one of the few out there that can > pigeon.

wagonhed · 03-26-2010

3-4 OLBs will always be more glamorous than real OLBs. Lame, but true. IMO the reason Cushing didn't get more votes was because of name recognition. The numbers he put up were as good as Willis and you really can't compare them to Ware because they play different positions. And when you consider he had to share with DeMeco, his numbers are even more impressive, Willis doesn't have to share with another pro bowl LB.

Cushing deserved #1 as far as I'm concerned, but I'll take #3.

**Texan_Bill** · 03-26-2010

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I agree, one of the few out there that can > pigeon.

YUP!!! Pigeon wouldn't stand a chance.

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Thorn Dirty Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston Section: Restrained in the mental ward Age: 61 Posts: 18,156 Rep Power: 53854	Re: Cushing finishes third behind Willis & Ware for Butkus Award Considering he's a rookie, that is very impressive. We certainly got a winner in Cushing, that's for sure. __________________ "Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." --- John Wayne

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TheIronDuke Disabled List Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Houston Age: 34 Posts: 3,108 Rep Power: 19430	Re: Cushing finishes third behind Willis & Ware for Butkus Award Pretty impressive company to be in. He's a beast now but imagine how beastly he'll be with a couple of years of NFL experience.

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BigBull17 Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2005 Location: Alvin Age: 32 Posts: 4,943 Rep Power: 4281	Re: Cushing finishes third behind Willis & Ware for Butkus Award I hate that guys like Dumervile, Ware, and the 3-4 OLB's get lumped in with true LB'ers. It's a totally different position. Different skill sets. __________________ Is it March 6th yet?

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IDEXAN Hall of Fame Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Challis, ID Age: 47 Posts: 5,069 Rep Power: 8331	Cushing finishes third behind Willis & Ware for Butkus Award Willis edged the 2008 professional Butkus Award winner, Cowboys OLB DeMarcus Ware, who finished with 39 points (six first-place votes). NFL rookie and first-round draft pick Brian Cushing of the Texans finished third with 12 points, followed by Ray Lewis of the Ravens (nine points) and three players tied for fifth place — Karlos Dansby, who recently signed with the Dolphins; Shaun Phillips of the Chargers; and Elvis Dumervil of the Broncos. http://www.profootballweekly.com/201...s-butkus-award ************************* Another impressive achievement for the rookie LB.

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False Start On # 69 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Waiting For the Turning Point! Section: 420 Posts: 12,144 Rep Power: 28885	Re: Cushing finishes third behind Willis & Ware for Butkus Award Cush is a bad, bad man. __________________ RIP DIMEBAG DARRELL - 1966-2004 - GETCHA PULL! CLIFF BURTON - 1962-1986 - CLIFF EM' ALL! MMO JWO

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eriadoc Texan-American Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 15,309 Rep Power: 69005	Re: Cushing finishes third behind Willis & Ware for Butkus Award So Willis, a MLB, won the award, and Ware, a 3-4 OLB placed second. That means that, according to the voters, Cush was the best 4-3 OLB in the league this year. __________________ “The Conservative’s first concern will always be: Are we maximizing freedom?” - Barry Goldwater

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Texan_Bill Subscribed Contributor Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Houston. Mediocrity Lives Here!! Section: Bull Pen!! Age: 45 Posts: 47,075 Rep Power: 41545	Re: Cushing finishes third behind Willis & Ware for Butkus Award Chuck Norris hides from "the Cush"!! "The Cush" > pigeon __________________ DeAndre!

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wagonhed Team Gruden Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Denton Age: 29 Posts: 2,455 Rep Power: 1891	Re: Cushing finishes third behind Willis & Ware for Butkus Award 3-4 OLBs will always be more glamorous than real OLBs. Lame, but true. IMO the reason Cushing didn't get more votes was because of name recognition. The numbers he put up were as good as Willis and you really can't compare them to Ware because they play different positions. And when you consider he had to share with DeMeco, his numbers are even more impressive, Willis doesn't have to share with another pro bowl LB. Cushing deserved #1 as far as I'm concerned, but I'll take #3.

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