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Old 03-22-2010   #1
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Default Owen Daniels Demonstrates Class in his own "Chaos"

Kudos are difficult to throw out to those who may be taking over your position, especially when contract talks have not gone your way so far. But, DO seems to stay above it all.

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ē Texans TE Owen Daniels, who missed the final eight games of the 2009 season with a knee injury, believes the increased playing time that then-rookie James Casey received in his absence was "a little bit of a blessing in disguise" for Casey. Daniels also praised veteran Joel Dreessen, who caught 21 passes in the second half of the season. "He's a superunderrated player in my opinion," Daniels told PFW. "He knows what he's doing and he does a good job. He's always going to give you his best and he's pretty well rounded. He's a really good blocker and he can catch the ball and make some things happen. He definitely got more comfortable as the year went along. That'll just make us all better when we're working this offseason."
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"Itís the third ACL (tear) that Iíve had in my life"
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...=pfw&type=lgns
The third blown knee ? That makes me nervous.
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If OD thinks those other guys are so good, lets cut him!!


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Default Re: Owen Daniels Demonstrates Class in his own "Chaos"

... That'll just make us all better when we're working this offseason."

That doesn't sound like a hold out?
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Default Re: Owen Daniels Demonstrates Class in his own "Chaos"

I got a chance to do some business with OD from December to January. He is a great guy. Very humble, personable. We even talked some football and at the time he said his rehab was going fine and had not experienced any set backs. The couple of times I saw him face to face I didnít notice a limp so that was a positive.

I even told him that the Jets being in the AFC Championship game was a joke and ridiculous. I told him that should be the Texans playing. He very much agreed. I even told him we could beat Indy in Indy and I expected them to be in the Superbowl this year. He agreed with that as well.

He is a good guy. I hope he stays.
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Default Re: Owen Daniels Demonstrates Class in his own "Chaos"

I don't think players have any leverage this season as far as "holding out" with the 2011 lockout possibility. Am I looking at that wrong? I also don't think Daniels is even thinking about holding out.
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I don't think players have any leverage this season as far as "holding out" with the 2011 lockout possibility. Am I looking at that wrong? I also don't think Daniels is even thinking about holding out.
If ODs already had 3 knees (meaning of course he's had a problem with the same knee "atleast" twice, he's got Lev with the Texans I would think - but that's one that maybe C-N-D could answer ?
But I'd guess the probability of another injury to a knee increases with each injury ?
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If ODs already had 3 knees (meaning of course he's had a problem with the same knee "atleast" twice, he's got Lev with the Texans I would think - but that's one that maybe C-N-D could answer ?
But I'd guess the probability of another injury to a knee increases with each injury ?
How so?
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OD helped make me a fan of TEs in this offense. I really like him a lot but from a football stance only, I would like to get some picks for him as I think Dreesen and CAsey will do all right. Hopefully, we will have a RB in draft to help also.
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"Itís the third ACL (tear) that Iíve had in my life"
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...=pfw&type=lgns
The third blown knee ? That makes me nervous.
I'm now for drafting a TE or two at BPA. Seriously.
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How so?
he's got NO Leverage - makes a difference - sorry about that
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If ODs already had 3 knees (meaning of course he's had a problem with the same knee "atleast" twice, he's got Lev with the Texans I would think - but that's one that maybe C-N-D could answer ?
But I'd guess the probability of another injury to a knee increases with each injury ?

IDEXAN, I answered a similar question in this post:

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/sho...&postcount=176

BTW, OD had undergone ACL repair on EACH knee prior to this last event.
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IDEXAN, I answered a similar question in this post:

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/sho...&postcount=176

BTW, OD had undergone ACL repair on EACH knee prior to this last event.
Thanks CND, grateful to have your expertise here.
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Default Re: Owen Daniels Demonstrates Class in his own "Chaos"

Once again proving the character of the those of the Texans roster is above and beyond that on any other roster.

As you all say it does worry me that he already has had trouble with his knees, we could end up seeing a premature end to his career with those problems, one more on the same knee as this time could be killer.
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OD is one of my favorite guys. I remember when he was drafted, it was like "who?", but in year one you knew he was gonaa be good.

Overall he's been pretty durable, I can only remember one other injury since he's been a pro, like a shoulder or something. However those knees seem to be an issue.

Last year (or even right after the injury) I would have said we'd b crazy to give a up a player like OD, but we've lost key players to career ended injuries and ended up with no compensation. With all that said, what if we shopped OD. I'm big on player loyalty, but from a competition and business stand point would you pull the trigger for the following:

I'm using Buffalo since they had interest last year.

OD for:

Buffalo's 1st
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swap 3rds


(Don't know if the Bills even have a 3rd, I didn't dig around too much.)
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OD is one of my favorite guys. I remember when he was drafted, it was like "who?", but in year one you knew he was gonaa be good.

Overall he's been pretty durable, I can only remember one other injury since he's been a pro, like a shoulder or something. However those knees seem to be an issue.

Last year (or even right after the injury) I would have said we'd b crazy to give a up a player like OD, but we've lost key players to career ended injuries and ended up with no compensation. With all that said, what if we shopped OD. I'm big on player loyalty, but from a competition and business stand point would you pull the trigger for the following:

I'm using Buffalo since they had interest last year.

OD for:

Buffalo's 1st
and
swap 3rds


(Don't know if the Bills even have a 3rd, I didn't dig around too much.)
Sounds great, but I would still like to see what he can do coming off the injury. When he is at 100%, hes a bad, bad man.
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With all that said, what if we shopped OD. I'm big on player loyalty, but from a competition and business stand point would you pull the trigger for the following:

I'm using Buffalo since they had interest last year.

OD for:

Buffalo's 1st
and
swap 3rds
I'm a really big fan of Owen's too but we'd be crazy NOT to make that trade. The 9th overall pick in the draft and move up 9 spots in the 3rd round? Absolutely. You pretty much would have Earl Thomas sitting for you at #9 and quite possibly Eric Berry.

Additionally, we've got Dreessen who is underrated and a decent starter (not close to a 100% OD) and James Casey as receiving TE's. This draft has some pretty good TE prospects too if we wanted to draft another one.

Jim Dray Stanford
Jermaine Gresham Oklahoma
Aaron Hernandez Florida
Tony Moeaki Iowa
Rob Gronkowski Arizona
Anthony McCoy USC
Colin Peek Bama

Go FS Earl Thomas, RB Ryan Matthews, CB Brandon Ghee, LG Mike Johnson in the 1st 3 rounds = 4 new starters

I just don't see Buffalo going for that at all. They still wouldn't have a franchise LT to protect their non-existant franchise QB to throw the ball to Owen.
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Earl Thomas at # 9... Tony Moeaki with the Bills 3rd round pick...

Ryan Mathews # 20...

Playoffs imminent...
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I'm hoping Seattle wants OD real bad... #6 bad
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I'm hoping Seattle wants OD real bad... #6 bad
Are this and the previous comment about the Bills just pulled out of thin air? Or, has there been some rumor that we're shopping OD around?
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