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Old 03-19-2010   #1
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Default Players I could live with in the first round

These are the people I would like to see called for us in the first round. I've listed them in order of my preference. (subject to change at a moments notice)

Gerald McCoy, Ndamukong Suh, Eric Berry - surely not going to be there at 20 but I would be stoked to have any of them.

Earl Thomas - He'd be the best safety we've ever had the moment he stepped on the field.... kind of sad really.

CJ Spiller - I love his explosive potential, a game changer.

Joe Haden - A good cover cornerback.... haven't seen one of those since Aaron Glenn....

Kyle Wilson - Another good cover corner with ball skills, yes please.

Taylor Mays - POTENTIAL plus... Cushing believes in him... I think his down year reflected lack of talent around him and him trying to fill the hole and getting sloppy because of it...

Ryan Matthews - Good vision, power, ball security. Lacks a bit of long speed but should be productive.

Brian Price - I really like a DT who can disrupt up the middle. If you can get your front four generating pressure it gives you more coverage options.

Sergio Kindle - What can I say, I love pass rushers. I don't know if he can play on the other side of Demeco and Cushing, but I would love to see him given a chance, if not he can join Williams and Barwin in a QB terrorising rotation.
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I would be happy with this one - http://draftnasty.com/videos/fresno-...mpress-nfl-te/
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Default Re: Players I could live with in the first round

for me, it'd be these guys.

Earl Thomas
CJ Spiller
Joe Haden
Kyle Wilson

maybe, maybe taylor mays. and i dont really like drafting rbs in the first round, when we still need more work on defesne. im a longhorn fan btw, but do we really need sergio kindle?
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for me, it'd be these guys.

Earl Thomas
CJ Spiller
Joe Haden
Kyle Wilson

maybe, maybe taylor mays. and i dont really like drafting rbs in the first round, when we still need more work on defesne. im a longhorn fan btw, but do we really need sergio kindle?
Need, no. I think that an extra pass rusher and versatile defensive piece can't hurt though.....

And he'd be perfect for when we go back to the 3-4!! (dreams are free)
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At the 53 second mark of the video....YES! That's a one cut and go that I like!!
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I'm surprised the Texans are so keen when Matthews is not a proven pass catcher or pass blocker.

I thought that was a high priority for this offense?
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I'm surprised the Texans are so keen when Matthews is not a proven pass catcher or pass blocker.

I thought that was a high priority for this offense?
Being able to do those things as well is part of why he is often called a complete back.

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Blocking: Can be a devastating blocker in pass protection, especially against a blitzing safety or linebacker. Keeps shoulders square, rolls hips and uncoils body into pass rushers. Shows sufficient skills to play immediately on third downs. Grade: 8.5

Hands/routes: Shows soft hands and ability to adjust to off-target passes. Is most effective on screens and checkdowns. Is more likely to break a tackle than evade anyone on wheel, swing or angle routes. Grade: 8.0
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Being able to do those things as well is part of why he is often called a complete back.



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Hmmm I read this...

Pass Catching: Only 19 career receptions. Was often taken off the field on passing downs. Does not have a lot of experience running routes. Rare to see the ball thrown his way.

Pass Blocking: Does not have as much experience as a pass blocker as you would like. However he is capable. Shows aggression and strength when stepping to defend the blitz. Willing to stick his hat in there. Does not hold a block well, basically a one pop blocker.

19 catches is a pretty small sample size
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19 catches is a pretty small sample size
Small sample sizes are one of the reasons scouts watch the bowl games and drills at the combine where new coaches can ask players to do things they may not have been called on to do a lot by their school's coach.
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I guess I'd like to see a player show it when it counts rather than when they are wearing shorts
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I guess I'd like to see a player show it when it counts rather than when they are wearing shorts
That's why I mentioned bowl games. Even your link said he was a powerful blocker. Sticking with a block is a coachable issue.
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I Like Matthews a lot. Does anyone think Spiller is going to be a Reggie Bust instead of Walter Payton? The guy's kinda smallish 5-10 190something for an every down back in the NFL.
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I Like Matthews a lot. Does anyone think Spiller is going to be a Reggie Bust instead of Walter Payton? The guy's kinda smallish 5-10 190something for an every down back in the NFL.
So was Tony Dorsett. The running style is more important than the size. Reggie was a dancer which I think is one of the main reasons the Texans didn't take him. His instincts are wrong for this system.
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I Like Matthews a lot. Does anyone think Spiller is going to be a Reggie Bust instead of Walter Payton? The guy's kinda smallish 5-10 190something for an every down back in the NFL.
I don't envision him as an every down back, he is a strike weapon in the run, pass and return game.

I think between he, Slaton and Foster we can carry the load.
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So was Tony Dorsett. The running style is more important than the size. Reggie was a dancer which I think is one of the main reasons the Texans didn't take him. His instincts are wrong for this system.
That's true enough, also, no one really uses a 1 back system anymore. They had him on Sirius NFL radio yesterday and he sounds like a great kid. I really don't know much about him at all, though, which is why I asked.
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He has a bit of power and doesn't run away from contact like Bush did.

Same moves and break away speed though.
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Cushing had immediate impact, could not practice yet was everydown LB. Mathews in Kubiak/Dennison system is a three down back, only spell him to rest/keep fresh. enter Slaton, Foster.

From everything I've seen Ryan catches the ball naturally, very fluid. Texans want to really improve running game (helps play action & keeps Schaub upright) he's the quickest solution.

I'm very sensitive to comments comparing Spiller with Bush. They are not at all alike (what, just because they both have speed & play RB?) Reggie is a slasher, avoids contact, uses vision to find space & out run pursuit to angles. Spiller is more stout/compact, patient cut-back inside-out runner with large hands (helps receiving & ball control) considered by some a better prospect comng ot of College than Chris Johnson which is who he should be compared to. I could live with either in first rd.

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The problem with Spiller is, he wont be available. Matthews is really the only feasible option for first round running back.
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These are the people I would like to see called for us in the first round. I've listed them in order of my preference. (subject to change at a moments notice)

Gerald McCoy, Ndamukong Suh, Eric Berry - surely not going to be there at 20 but I would be stoked to have any of them.

Earl Thomas - He'd be the best safety we've ever had the moment he stepped on the field.... kind of sad really.

CJ Spiller - I love his explosive potential, a game changer.

Joe Haden - A good cover cornerback.... haven't seen one of those since Aaron Glenn....

Kyle Wilson - Another good cover corner with ball skills, yes please.

Taylor Mays - POTENTIAL plus... Cushing believes in him... I think his down year reflected lack of talent around him and him trying to fill the hole and getting sloppy because of it...

Ryan Matthews - Good vision, power, ball security. Lacks a bit of long speed but should be productive.

Brian Price - I really like a DT who can disrupt up the middle. If you can get your front four generating pressure it gives you more coverage options.

Sergio Kindle - What can I say, I love pass rushers. I don't know if he can play on the other side of Demeco and Cushing, but I would love to see him given a chance, if not he can join Williams and Barwin in a QB terrorising rotation.
I agree with you Kiwi. I could live with one of mentioned players.

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I'd be nervous/excited about Taylor Mays. So much potential...but just as much of a potential bust.

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