Threetoedpete's Three Round Mock - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

threetoedpete · 03-18-2010

Texans:

20.) Houston- Ryan Mathews RB Fresno State
51.) Houston- Chris Cooke DB Virginia
81.) Houston -Akwasi Owusu-Ansah CB Indiana (Pitt. State. )

Round One:

1. ) St. Louis Rams- Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma

2. ) Detroit Lions- Gerald McCoy DT Oklahoma

3.) Tampa Bay- Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska

4.) Washington - Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State

5.) Kansas City- Brian Bulaga OT Iowa

6.) Seattle- Derrick Morgan DE Georgia Tech

7.) Cleveland - Dez Bryant WR Oklahoma State

8. ) Oakland- Bruce Campbell OLT Maryland

9.) Buffalo - Jimmy Clausen QB Norte Dame

10.) Jacksonville- Eric Berry FS/CB Tennessee

11.) Denver - Terrence Cody DT Alabama

12.) Miami- Sean Witherspoon OLB Missouri

13.) San Francisco- Trent Williams OT Oklahoma

14.) Seattle - C.J. Spiller RB Clemson

15.) N.Y. Giants- Rolando McClain ILB Alabama

16.) Tennessee- Everson Griffin DE USC

17. ) San Francisco - Earl Thomas FS/CB Texas

18. ) Pittsburgh- Mike Iupati OT/OG Idaho

19.) Atlanta- Carlos Dunlop DE Florida

20.) Houston- Ryan Mathews RB Fresno State

21.) Cincinnati - Golden Tate WR Norte Dame

22.) New England - Brandon Graham DE Michigan

23.) Green Bay - Charles Brown OLT USC

24. ) Philadelphia- Sergio Kindle DE/OLB Texas

25.) Baltimore- Jerry Hughes DE/LB TCU

26.) Arizona- Jered Ordick DT Penn. State

27.) Dallas- Taylor Mays SS USC

28.) San Diego- Ben Tate RB Auburn

29.) N.Y. Jets- Daryl Washington OLB TCU

30) Minnesota- Colt McCoy QB Texas

31.)Indianapolis-Cory Wootton DE North Western

32.) New Orleans-Jason Pierre-Paul DE South Florida

Round Two

33.) St Louis- John Jerry OG/OT Mississippi

34.) Detroit- Patrick Robinson CB Florida State

35.) Tampa Bay- Arrellios Benn WR Illinois

36.) Kansas City- Demetrius Thomas WR Georgia Tech

37.) Washington-Toby Gerhardt RB Stanford

38.) Cleveland- Kyle Wilson CB Boise State

39. Oakland- Dan Williams DT Tennessee

40.) Seattle -Rodger Safford OLT Indiana

42.) Tampa Bay- Johnathon Dwyer RB Georgia Tech.

43.) Miami- Ricky Sapp MLB Clemson

44.) New England- Maurkise Pouncey C/G Florida

45.) Denver-Tyson Aluala DT/ DE California

46. N.Y. Giants- Brian Price DT UCLA

47.) New England- Alex Carrington DE Arkansas State

48.) Carolina- Greg Hardy DE Mississippi

49.) San Francisco - Dexter McCluster WR/RB/KR Mississippi

50.) Kansas City-Morgan Burnet DB Georgia Tech

51.) Houston- Chris Cooke DB Virginia

52.) Pittsburgh- Joe Haden CB Florida

53.) New England- Taylor Price WR Ohio

54.) Cincinnati-Jermain Gresham TE Oklahoma

55.) Philadelphia- Aaron Hernandez TE Florida

56.) Green Bay- Jacoby Ford WR/KR Clemson

57.) Baltimore-Carlton Mitchell WR South Florida

58.) Arizona- Devin McCourty CB Rutgers

59.) Dallas- Marshal Newhouse OG/OT TCU

60.) San Diego-Cam Thomas DT North Carolina

61.) New York Jets- Geno Atkins DT Georgia

62.) Minnesota- Mike Johnson OG Alabama

63.) Indianapolis- Selvish Capers OT West Virginia

64.)New Orleans- Dekota Watson Will LB Florida State

Third Round

65.) St. Louis- Rob Gronkowski TE Arizona

66.) Detroit- Navarro Bowman LB Penn State

67.) Tampa Bay- Jimmy Johnson TE Miami

68.) Kansas City- Brandon Ghee CB Wake Forest

69.) Oakland- Brandon Lefell WR LSU

70.) Philadelphia (from Seattle) Anthony Davis OT Rutgers

71.) Cleveland -Roderick Muckelroy LB Texas

72.) Buffalo -Vladimir Ducasse OG/OT UMass

73.) Miami *Linval Joseph NT East Carolina

74.) Jacksonville Jahvid Best RB California

75.) Chicago Chad Jones S LSU

76.) New York Giants Author Jones DT Syracuse

77.) Tennessee- Syd'Quan Thompson CB California

78.) Carolina- Dan LeFevour QB Central Michigan

79.) San Francisco- Donavan Warren CB Michigan

80.) Denver -Micah Johnson MLB Penn St.

81.) Houston -Akwasi Owusu-Ansah CB Indiana (Pitt. State. )

82.) Pittsburgh- Ed Dickson TE Oregon

83.) Atlanta- Jarred Valdeer OT Hillsdale

84.)Cincinnati- Lammar Houston DT Texas

85.) Oakland- Jason Worilds LB/DE Virgina Tech

86.)Green Bay- Maron Lewis CB Vanderbilt

82.) Pittsburgh - Sam Young RT Notre Dame

83.)Atlanta -George Selvie DE South Florida

84.) Cincinnati -Vince Oghobaase DT Duke

85 Cleveland (from New England thru. Oakland) Denis Pitta HB BYU

86.) Green Bay -Tony Washington OLT Abilene Christian

87.) Philadelphia -Jeome Murphy CB South Florida

88.) Baltimore - Danardo Alexander WR Missouri

89.) Arizona - Austen Lane DE Murray State

90.) Dallas-Sean Lee OLB Penn State

91.) San Diego - Lonyae Miller RB Fresno State

92.) Cleveland (from NY Jets) Eric Norwood OLB South Carolina

93.) Minnesota -Amari Spievey CB Iowa

94.) Indianapolis -Jon Asamoah G Illinois

95.) New Orleans-Nate Allen FS South Florida

Blake · 03-18-2010

Very different mock here. Best and Ducasse in the 3rd. Haden dropping to the 2nd and the texans passing on him for a different DB. Ben Tate in the first round? And Pierre-Paul taking a giant drop.

threetoedpete · 03-18-2010

Best starts out with a concussion history. That will drop him. Criss Cooke fits what the Texans have done before. Draft the big DB and see if he has the feet to make it at corner. Not my theory. But Cooke has size and quick feet. And I'm not in love with this group of corners like a lot of others are. We'll see in five years how many are still in the league. Demand is the driving force. But if I'm seeing it , you can believe the scouts are seeing it too. This is a bad group of corners. Buy one before the third at you own peril.

TheRealJoker · 03-18-2010

I like this mock, it shows you've got your own rating system and don't care what the ESPiN mocksters think.

Interesting to see you took back to back DBs. I love the Mathews and Akwasi picks. I probably would've gone Mike Johnson in the 2nd with the way your mock draft fell to ensure we'd have a running game this season by reuniting him with Caldwell in the middle. Mathews/Johnson in the 1st two rounds? You bet we're gonna get in from the 1 yard line!!!

Don't think Haden/Wilson will fall to round 2 however. Even if you're bearish on those two, I think there's an NFL team out there that's gonna grab em both in the 1st. Especially since Haden improved his 40 to mid 4.4s on a wet surface. I'm interested in your reasoning why the Lions go Mccoy over Suh?

Good mock 3TP!!!

threetoedpete · 03-18-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRealJoker

Don't think Haden/Wilson will fall to round 2 however. Even if you're bearish on those two, I think there's an NFL team out there that's gonna grab em both in the 1st. Especially since Haden improved his 40 to mid 4.4s on a wet surface. I'm interested in your reasoning why the Lions go Mccoy over Suh?

Good mock 3TP!!!

Anytime they are saying a guy is like Tommie Harris, I buy that. I think King Kong will be a very good pro. I think McCoy will have the better upside and longer career. I think the lions will take the guy with the higher upside and the safest pick. I don't like this class of corners. Sorry.

**HOU-TEX** · 03-19-2010

Cooke over McCourty in the 2nd? I'd be pissed if that happened, sorry.

Cooke:
-He's not a physical tackler
-Been suspended twice for academic reasons
-Has been consistently injured
-Looks for the big play too often, giving up easy completions

**badboy** · 03-19-2010

I have to agree. I am not a Cooke fan. But I have Mathews, Lamarr Houston then Ansah on my mock.

**beerlover** · 03-20-2010

generally speaking its a fair representation of talent. specific groups like CB he hits severly but that's his perversion. Change Burnett one spot to Texans 2nd rd. pick & you have our Mock draft for the Texans thru 3 rounds.

BL

bckey · 03-20-2010

I love Mathews but I don't want a rb in the 1st. I think the Texans have to go fs or dt depending on how it plays out. I'm scared of Taylor Mays because of all the negatives he has on coverage. In your mock I would have taken:

1-Dan Williams dt
2-Joe Haden db
3-Nate Allen fs

rmartin65 · 03-20-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by bckey

I love Mathews but I don't want a rb in the 1st. I think the Texans have to go fs or dt depending on how it plays out. I'm scared of Taylor Mays because of all the negatives he has on coverage. In your mock I would have taken:

1-Dan Williams dt
2-Joe Haden db
3-Nate Allen fs

That would be all-star. But no way in hell that happens. Williams is top 15 talent, Haden as well, and Allen goes in the 2nd.

**badboy** · 03-22-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by bckey

I love Mathews but I don't want a rb in the 1st. I think the Texans have to go fs or dt depending on how it plays out. I'm scared of Taylor Mays because of all the negatives he has on coverage. In your mock I would have taken:
1-Dan Williams dt
2-Joe Haden db
3-Nate Allen fs

You have two top 20 guys and a top 40 guy spread over three rounds. I'll drink with you but when we sober up people will be laughing at us.

Insideop · 03-23-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by badboy

You have two top 20 guys and a top 40 guy spread over three rounds. I'll drink with you but when we sober up people will be laughing at us.

I think he meant those are the three he would choose from in TTP's mock according to what TTP had left from the 20th pick and going forward into the next rounds. It's not bckey that needs to "sober up," it's TTP! LOL!

**badboy** · 03-23-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by Insideop

I think he meant those are the three he would choose from in TTP's mock according to what TTP had left from the 20th pick and going forward into the next rounds. It's not bckey that needs to "sober up," it's TTP! LOL!

Thanks but re-read the thread and Insideop refers to the three Texans picks in the original mock; first, second and third rounds.

03-18-2010	#1
threetoedpete Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Location: Katy, Texas Age: 57 Posts: 6,644 Rep Power: 140	Threetoedpete's Three Round Mock Texans: 20.) Houston- Ryan Mathews RB Fresno State 51.) Houston- Chris Cooke DB Virginia 81.) Houston -Akwasi Owusu-Ansah CB Indiana (Pitt. State. ) Round One: 1. ) St. Louis Rams- Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma 2. ) Detroit Lions- Gerald McCoy DT Oklahoma 3.) Tampa Bay- Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska 4.) Washington - Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State 5.) Kansas City- Brian Bulaga OT Iowa 6.) Seattle- Derrick Morgan DE Georgia Tech 7.) Cleveland - Dez Bryant WR Oklahoma State 8. ) Oakland- Bruce Campbell OLT Maryland 9.) Buffalo - Jimmy Clausen QB Norte Dame 10.) Jacksonville- Eric Berry FS/CB Tennessee 11.) Denver - Terrence Cody DT Alabama 12.) Miami- Sean Witherspoon OLB Missouri 13.) San Francisco- Trent Williams OT Oklahoma 14.) Seattle - C.J. Spiller RB Clemson 15.) N.Y. Giants- Rolando McClain ILB Alabama 16.) Tennessee- Everson Griffin DE USC 17. ) San Francisco - Earl Thomas FS/CB Texas 18. ) Pittsburgh- Mike Iupati OT/OG Idaho 19.) Atlanta- Carlos Dunlop DE Florida 20.) Houston- Ryan Mathews RB Fresno State 21.) Cincinnati - Golden Tate WR Norte Dame 22.) New England - Brandon Graham DE Michigan 23.) Green Bay - Charles Brown OLT USC 24. ) Philadelphia- Sergio Kindle DE/OLB Texas 25.) Baltimore- Jerry Hughes DE/LB TCU 26.) Arizona- Jered Ordick DT Penn. State 27.) Dallas- Taylor Mays SS USC 28.) San Diego- Ben Tate RB Auburn 29.) N.Y. Jets- Daryl Washington OLB TCU 30) Minnesota- Colt McCoy QB Texas 31.)Indianapolis-Cory Wootton DE North Western 32.) New Orleans-Jason Pierre-Paul DE South Florida Round Two 33.) St Louis- John Jerry OG/OT Mississippi 34.) Detroit- Patrick Robinson CB Florida State 35.) Tampa Bay- Arrellios Benn WR Illinois 36.) Kansas City- Demetrius Thomas WR Georgia Tech 37.) Washington-Toby Gerhardt RB Stanford 38.) Cleveland- Kyle Wilson CB Boise State 39. Oakland- Dan Williams DT Tennessee 40.) Seattle -Rodger Safford OLT Indiana 42.) Tampa Bay- Johnathon Dwyer RB Georgia Tech. 43.) Miami- Ricky Sapp MLB Clemson 44.) New England- Maurkise Pouncey C/G Florida 45.) Denver-Tyson Aluala DT/ DE California 46. N.Y. Giants- Brian Price DT UCLA 47.) New England- Alex Carrington DE Arkansas State 48.) Carolina- Greg Hardy DE Mississippi 49.) San Francisco - Dexter McCluster WR/RB/KR Mississippi 50.) Kansas City-Morgan Burnet DB Georgia Tech 51.) Houston- Chris Cooke DB Virginia 52.) Pittsburgh- Joe Haden CB Florida 53.) New England- Taylor Price WR Ohio 54.) Cincinnati-Jermain Gresham TE Oklahoma 55.) Philadelphia- Aaron Hernandez TE Florida 56.) Green Bay- Jacoby Ford WR/KR Clemson 57.) Baltimore-Carlton Mitchell WR South Florida 58.) Arizona- Devin McCourty CB Rutgers 59.) Dallas- Marshal Newhouse OG/OT TCU 60.) San Diego-Cam Thomas DT North Carolina 61.) New York Jets- Geno Atkins DT Georgia 62.) Minnesota- Mike Johnson OG Alabama 63.) Indianapolis- Selvish Capers OT West Virginia 64.)New Orleans- Dekota Watson Will LB Florida State Third Round 65.) St. Louis- Rob Gronkowski TE Arizona 66.) Detroit- Navarro Bowman LB Penn State 67.) Tampa Bay- Jimmy Johnson TE Miami 68.) Kansas City- Brandon Ghee CB Wake Forest 69.) Oakland- Brandon Lefell WR LSU 70.) Philadelphia (from Seattle) Anthony Davis OT Rutgers 71.) Cleveland -Roderick Muckelroy LB Texas 72.) Buffalo -Vladimir Ducasse OG/OT UMass 73.) Miami Linval Joseph NT East Carolina 74.) Jacksonville Jahvid Best RB California 75.) Chicago Chad Jones S LSU 76.) New York Giants Author Jones DT Syracuse 77.) Tennessee- Syd'Quan Thompson CB California 78.) Carolina- Dan LeFevour QB Central Michigan 79.) San Francisco- Donavan Warren CB Michigan 80.) Denver -Micah Johnson MLB Penn St. 81.) Houston -Akwasi Owusu-Ansah CB Indiana (Pitt. State. ) 82.) Pittsburgh- Ed Dickson TE Oregon 83.) Atlanta- Jarred Valdeer OT Hillsdale 84.)Cincinnati- Lammar Houston DT Texas 85.) Oakland- Jason Worilds LB/DE Virgina Tech 86.)Green Bay- Maron Lewis CB Vanderbilt 82.) Pittsburgh - Sam Young RT Notre Dame 83.)Atlanta -George Selvie DE South Florida 84.) Cincinnati -Vince Oghobaase DT Duke 85 Cleveland (from New England thru. Oakland) Denis Pitta HB BYU 86.) Green Bay -Tony Washington OLT Abilene Christian 87.) Philadelphia -Jeome Murphy CB South Florida 88.) Baltimore - Danardo Alexander WR Missouri 89.) Arizona - Austen Lane DE Murray State 90.) Dallas-Sean Lee OLB Penn State 91.) San Diego - Lonyae Miller RB Fresno State 92.) Cleveland (from NY Jets) Eric Norwood OLB South Carolina 93.) Minnesota -Amari Spievey CB Iowa 94.) Indianapolis -Jon Asamoah G Illinois 95.) New Orleans-Nate Allen FS South Florida __________________ "Everybody understands that the only way we're going to do it is by extremely hard work." Last edited by threetoedpete; 03-18-2010 at 10:45 PM.*

03-18-2010	#2
Blake MMQB Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spring Section: 551/B Posts: 9,580 Rep Power: 14926	Re: Threetoedpete's Three Round Mock Very different mock here. Best and Ducasse in the 3rd. Haden dropping to the 2nd and the texans passing on him for a different DB. Ben Tate in the first round? And Pierre-Paul taking a giant drop.

03-18-2010	#3
threetoedpete Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Location: Katy, Texas Age: 57 Posts: 6,644 Rep Power: 140	Re: Threetoedpete's Three Round Mock Best starts out with a concussion history. That will drop him. Criss Cooke fits what the Texans have done before. Draft the big DB and see if he has the feet to make it at corner. Not my theory. But Cooke has size and quick feet. And I'm not in love with this group of corners like a lot of others are. We'll see in five years how many are still in the league. Demand is the driving force. But if I'm seeing it , you can believe the scouts are seeing it too. This is a bad group of corners. Buy one before the third at you own peril. __________________ "Everybody understands that the only way we're going to do it is by extremely hard work."

03-18-2010	#4
TheRealJoker Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Conroe Age: 25 Posts: 3,563 Rep Power: 2772	Re: Threetoedpete's Three Round Mock I like this mock, it shows you've got your own rating system and don't care what the ESPiN mocksters think. Interesting to see you took back to back DBs. I love the Mathews and Akwasi picks. I probably would've gone Mike Johnson in the 2nd with the way your mock draft fell to ensure we'd have a running game this season by reuniting him with Caldwell in the middle. Mathews/Johnson in the 1st two rounds? You bet we're gonna get in from the 1 yard line!!! Don't think Haden/Wilson will fall to round 2 however. Even if you're bearish on those two, I think there's an NFL team out there that's gonna grab em both in the 1st. Especially since Haden improved his 40 to mid 4.4s on a wet surface. I'm interested in your reasoning why the Lions go Mccoy over Suh? Good mock 3TP!!! __________________ What did the city of Houston do to anger the football gods?

03-19-2010	#6
HOU-TEX Ah, Football! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: P-land Age: 42 Posts: 14,143 Rep Power: 19780	Re: Threetoedpete's Three Round Mock Cooke over McCourty in the 2nd? I'd be pissed if that happened, sorry. Cooke: -He's not a physical tackler -Been suspended twice for academic reasons -Has been consistently injured -Looks for the big play too often, giving up easy completions __________________ "We wanted to make a statement, run the ball and make them like it." - Duane Brown

03-19-2010	#7
badboy Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Clear Lake Posts: 18,991 Rep Power: 30909	Re: Threetoedpete's Three Round Mock I have to agree. I am not a Cooke fan. But I have Mathews, Lamarr Houston then Ansah on my mock. __________________ The sound of marine engines and superchargers soon shall fill the air!

03-20-2010	#8
beerlover Site Contributor Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 11,357 Rep Power: 15075	Re: Threetoedpete's Three Round Mock generally speaking its a fair representation of talent. specific groups like CB he hits severly but that's his perversion. Change Burnett one spot to Texans 2nd rd. pick & you have our Mock draft for the Texans thru 3 rounds. BL

03-20-2010	#9
bckey Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 2,121 Rep Power: 8310	Re: Threetoedpete's Three Round Mock I love Mathews but I don't want a rb in the 1st. I think the Texans have to go fs or dt depending on how it plays out. I'm scared of Taylor Mays because of all the negatives he has on coverage. In your mock I would have taken: 1-Dan Williams dt 2-Joe Haden db 3-Nate Allen fs

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