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Old 03-17-2010   #1
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We all know the Texans having a gaping hole at free safety. Wilson is old and injury prone, and Barber has not impressed me. But this led me to thinking about the other safety position. At first, this may come as a shock. We have Pollard. Pollard was a huge part of the D's turn around last year. But what if he goes down? Do you all remember what that was like? I think that the Texans would be in much better position if they drafted another SS, one that can substitute with Pollard if need be. This player will play special teams primarily, so his team attitude is important.

Based on the Texans more immediate needs, SS should not be taken high in the draft. This player is to be a backup with down the road (3 years or so) potential. Therefore, I am crossing out all players that would be taken before the 5th round.

*Disclaimer* This thread becomes useless should the Texans draft a FS that could also play SS in a pinch.

Ex- Florida State's Myron Rolle, 6'2" 215 lbs

Everyone, take a deep breath. Yes, I know Rolle is very intelligent, and a very high character guy. However, he is not a great player. He has plenty of flaws in his game. Mainly, he is not a coverage guy in the least. He has marginal speed (4.68 forty- and plays like it), and can be tight in the hips when changing direction. He makes up for it by being so intelligent, but it will be tougher in the pros. His year off will hurt him as well.

Toledo's Barry Church, 6'2" 222 lbs


Church has been a my radar since his freshman season, where he had 71 tackles and 4 picks. Since then, he has been asked to play closer to the line, and you can see it in his interception totals, dwindling to 3 as a sophomore, and 1 each of the last two seasons. He covers well for a safety his size, but his straight line speed leaves something to be desired. He would be a bad man coverage guy, but in a zone he should be ok. His instincts are incredible, one of his best qualities. He adds special team value, blocking 3 kicks last year. He is one of the best safeties in this draft at run support. He is like a linebacker in that regard.


Notre Dame's Kyle McCarthy, 6' 205 lbs


McCarthy had an unbelievable season last year. He was especially clutch during crunch time, making multiple picks and causing incomplete passes. He is solid in everything, but spectacular in nothing. He is a very instinctual player with limited athleticism. In addition, he is a great team player, willing to do whatever it takes for the team.
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For a back-up McCarthy doesn't seem to bad to have. Anything is better than what we currently have.
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Barber could probably play strong if Pollard went down, or we could always bring back John Busing lol
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I read almost the same exact write-ups for these guys the other day. Now where was it...
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Barber could probably play strong if Pollard went down, or we could always bring back John Busing lol
Don't even joke like that dude!
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I read almost the same exact write-ups for these guys the other day. Now where was it...
Really? Where?
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Really? Where?
I dont know dude... it may even have been something you posted before. Or deja vue. It just struck me as something I had read before. Not all of it but sections such as...

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Mainly, he is not a coverage guy in the least. He has marginal speed (4.68 forty- and plays like it), and can be tight in the hips when changing direction. He makes up for it by being so intelligent, but it will be tougher in the pros. His year off will hurt him as well.
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Church has been a my radar since his freshman season, where he had 71 tackles and 4 picks. Since then, he has been asked to play closer to the line, and you can see it in his interception totals, dwindling to 3 as a sophomore, and 1 each of the last two seasons. He covers well for a safety his size, but his straight line speed leaves something to be desired
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I dont know dude... it may even have been something you posted before. Or deja vue. It just struck me as something I had read before. Not all of it but sections such as...



And...
The stuff on Rolle I think I have posted before. But the stuff on Church is new I think. That is weird.
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I think you might be surprised by Myron Rolle, he might go higher than you expect, possibly in the late 3rd or 4th round. I think Barry Church will be our best bet as a backup SS to be taken late in the draft and I think he would be a good one on special teams as well. I had him in my last mock draft.
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I think you might be surprised by Myron Rolle, he might go higher than you expect, possibly in the late 3rd or 4th round. I think Barry Church will be our best bet as a backup SS to be taken late in the draft and I think he would be a good one on special teams as well. I had him in my last mock draft.
During the season I had Rolle going in the 4th, and people were pissed off. But I think they are falling into the ESPN hype. Yes, he is a great person, a role model (I could not help myself there, sorry) for all young people. But he is not a star SS. He has below average speed and change of direction capabilities. He does not play the ball well. He will not be (initially at least) the playmaker that teams seek from their safeties.

Your mock is actually what made me look at SS as a need. And out of all the guys I scouted for the spot, I like Church the best. There is just something about him when you watch film, he just has IT. He is always around the ball, I love it.
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Church in th 5th or 6th would be a good pick.
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During the season I had Rolle going in the 4th, and people were pissed off. But I think they are falling into the ESPN hype. Yes, he is a great person, a role model (I could not help myself there, sorry) for all young people. But he is not a star SS. He has below average speed and change of direction capabilities. He does not play the ball well. He will not be (initially at least) the playmaker that teams seek from their safeties.

Your mock is actually what made me look at SS as a need. And out of all the guys I scouted for the spot, I like Church the best. There is just something about him when you watch film, he just has IT. He is always around the ball, I love it.

I think after Rolle had a really good Senior Bowl and a decent/good Combine that he'll probably go in the late 3rd or somewhere in the 4th round. I had us picking Church in the 6th round only because he's a small school prospect and what little youtube film I can find on the guy he does seem to have "IT". In an interview video I saw he could speak in cohesive sentences and articulate thoughts which was impressive for today's football players. I'd take him in the 5th round but I think that our depth needs on the O-line outweigh depth at SS. Hopefully we get a little lucky.
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