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Old 03-02-2010   #1
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Default Taylor Mays 4.24! (NOT!)

Yeah it's unofficial via NFLN, but holy shoeballs that is fast!

Thought it deserved its own thread.

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Does it change your mock?
It should. He was pretty much universally being left out of the first round in mocks. He's a lock to go in the first.
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2nd time he ran was 4.34 I think. Even in 4.3's with his measurement is very fast.
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I had Mays to Oakland #8 4 weeks ago and its still lookin good.
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I had Mays to Oakland #8 4 weeks ago and its still lookin good.
Yeah! I can see Al jumping off his chair just about now.
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Default Re: Taylor Mays 4.24!

Physical Freak. Vernon Gholston 2.0

Here's a scenario. Our top players are off the board, Texans trade down with Arizona for their 2nd + 3rd round picks. Arizona selects Sean Weatherspoon (the next Demeco Ryans).

At #26, Taylor Mays is still available. Al Davis and the Oakland Raiders come calling, offer us their 2nd + 3rd round picks in exchange for Mays and our 4th rounder.

We now have THREE 2nd round picks and THREE 3rd round picks. First pick becomes #39 overall, 7th in the 2nd round. Can get Great value with quality starters by addressing CB, RB, DT, WR, OG and FS all in the first 3 rounds.

Brandon Ghee, Mardy Gilyard, Linval Joseph, Brandon Tate, Jon Asamogha, Major Wright?
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Default Re: Taylor Mays 4.24!

It's official. He's a Raider now.


Honestly though with all of the problems that I read about him from last season in coverage I'm not sure he'd be worth a first rounder at all. As great as he looked at times as a Junior, his Senior season was rather unimpressive.
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Physical Freak. Vernon Gholston 2.0

Here's a scenario. Our top players are off the board, Texans trade down with Arizona for their 2nd + 3rd round picks. Arizona selects Sean Weatherspoon (the next Demeco Ryans).

At #26, Taylor Mays is still available. Al Davis and the Oakland Raiders come calling, offer us their 2nd + 3rd round picks in exchange for Mays and our 4th rounder.

We now have THREE 2nd round picks and THREE 3rd round picks. First pick becomes #39 overall, 7th in the 2nd round. Can get Great value with quality starters by addressing CB, RB, DT, WR, OG and FS all in the first 3 rounds.

Brandon Ghee, Mardy Gilyard, Linval Joseph, Brandon Tate, Jon Asamogha, Major Wright?
If Mays is there at #20, we may pick him up. It will be very difficult to pass him up. Don't you think? But it's so funny that I can actually see Al doing that tho.
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Physical Freak. Vernon Gholston 2.0

Here's a scenario. Our top players are off the board, Texans trade down with Arizona for their 2nd + 3rd round picks. Arizona selects Sean Weatherspoon (the next Demeco Ryans).

At #26, Taylor Mays is still available. Al Davis and the Oakland Raiders come calling, offer us their 2nd + 3rd round picks in exchange for Mays and our 4th rounder.

We now have THREE 2nd round picks and THREE 3rd round picks. First pick becomes #39 overall, 7th in the 2nd round. Can get Great value with quality starters by addressing CB, RB, DT, WR, OG and FS all in the first 3 rounds.

Brandon Ghee, Mardy Gilyard, Linval Joseph, Brandon Tate, Jon Asamogha, Major Wright?
After he just blew up the combine, I doubt the Raiders pass on him at #8. He definitely won't be there at 26.
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Default Re: Taylor Mays 4.24!

If Mays had some pass coverage skills and tackling skills he'd be scary good. He's got all the physical skills, I wonder if he can learn pass coverage skills, learn to play the ball and not the WR, and surely he can learn to wrap up when tackling.
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It's official. He's a Raider now.


Honestly though with all of the problems that I read about him from last season in coverage I'm not sure he'd be worth a first rounder at all. As great as he looked at times as a Junior, his Senior season was rather unimpressive.
I agree with you on his Junior year and Senior year productivity. However, we need to understand that all those great 3 LBs left in 2008 and D is not the same quality wise in 2009 and need to take that as a consideration to evaluate. Also, people tend to remember amazing play as their stardard of plays and anything else is subpar performance. Like when you playing golf, you expect yourself to hit more than 300yds everytime however, only happens 1 out of 10 drives.
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Default Re: Taylor Mays 4.24!

The official time just came out.. he ran a 4.43. Big difference from 4.24. It's still fast but not blazing fast. And he was the fastest of all DB's.
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4.43 offical time. Whoops NFL network!
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Al is back on his chair now.
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It's official. He's a Raider now.


Honestly though with all of the problems that I read about him from last season in coverage I'm not sure he'd be worth a first rounder at all. As great as he looked at times as a Junior, his Senior season was rather unimpressive.
He is the true definition of a non-playmaker. He doesn't have the nose for the ball some guys have. He looked average without three 1st round LB'ers in front of him. (Maluga went 2nd, but he is a 1st round talent)
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He is the true definition of a non-playmaker. He doesn't have the nose for the ball some guys have. He looked average without three 1st round LB'ers in front of him. (Maluga went 2nd, but he is a 1st round talent)
Yeah, that's all I read about him this year. He was compared to Roy Williams a number of times actually. A faster version of him that hits really hard and is a freak, but just not a play maker with a nose for the ball which is what you want out of your safety. It's funny to, because I remember so many people wanting that guy last season. I was one of them as well. I couldn't believe it when he didn't come into the draft when his stock was so high either. He probably lost a ton of money now that his stock will drop.
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Physical Freak. Vernon Gholston 2.0

Here's a scenario. Our top players are off the board, Texans trade down with Arizona for their 2nd + 3rd round picks. Arizona selects Sean Weatherspoon (the next Demeco Ryans).

At #26, Taylor Mays is still available. Al Davis and the Oakland Raiders come calling, offer us their 2nd + 3rd round picks in exchange for Mays and our 4th rounder.

We now have THREE 2nd round picks and THREE 3rd round picks. First pick becomes #39 overall, 7th in the 2nd round. Can get Great value with quality starters by addressing CB, RB, DT, WR, OG and FS all in the first 3 rounds.

Brandon Ghee, Mardy Gilyard, Linval Joseph, Brandon Tate, Jon Asamogha, Major Wright?
Dude, you are WAY off on your draft pick values. Texans 20th pick overall is worth 850 by the chart, 26th is worth 700. Picks 58 and 90 are worth 320 and 140. In your scenario the Texans would only get a 3rd round pick from the Cards and that would be about even. Still worth it IMO if no one we need drops, but you're over valuing the Texans pick.

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As for the Raiders portion, pick 40 and 72 are worth 500 and 230, so together right at 730, which would be a good swap for the Texans if they had pick 26.

With all the needs the Texans have, it certainly is preferable for them to trade back a few times, but only if they are picking up round 2 and 3 picks. I really hope they don't just drop a spot or two for a 6th instead of dropping back 6-10 and getting a 2nd and/or 3rd as you suggest.
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Physical Freak. Vernon Gholston 2.0

Here's a scenario. Our top players are off the board, Texans trade down with Arizona for their 2nd + 3rd round picks. Arizona selects Sean Weatherspoon (the next Demeco Ryans).

At #26, Taylor Mays is still available. Al Davis and the Oakland Raiders come calling, offer us their 2nd + 3rd round picks in exchange for Mays and our 4th rounder.

We now have THREE 2nd round picks and THREE 3rd round picks. First pick becomes #39 overall, 7th in the 2nd round. Can get Great value with quality starters by addressing CB, RB, DT, WR, OG and FS all in the first 3 rounds.

Brandon Ghee, Mardy Gilyard, Linval Joseph, Brandon Tate, Jon Asamogha, Major Wright?
Like your trades. My picks would be:
2a Ryan Mathews RB 2b Brandon Ghee CB 2c Jordan Shipley WR
3a Linval Joseph DT 3b Marshall Newhouse LG 3c JD Walton Center
4 Robert Johnson FS 5. Chris Brown RB OKla and BPA after that.
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Yeah, that's all I read about him this year. He was compared to Roy Williams a number of times actually. A faster version of him that hits really hard and is a freak, but just not a play maker with a nose for the ball which is what you want out of your safety. It's funny to, because I remember so many people wanting that guy last season. I was one of them as well. I couldn't believe it when he didn't come into the draft when his stock was so high either. He probably lost a ton of money now that his stock will drop.
I thought last year he was a little over-rated. If we didn't have Pollard, I would love him at SS, but not as you're ball hawk.
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I hope he goes to .... someone in front of the Texans. All it does is push another talent down a spot.
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