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Old 03-04-2010   #41
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In this sort of Mock, you're pretty restricted.

If we get into this situation with CJ Spiller falling to us, I think we strike a deal with the Chargers and trade back. But I seriously doubt CJ drops to us.

So Steph was put into a kind of a bad spot here. She took the BPA and there's nothing wrong with that.
See you are assuming that I think SPiller is the BPA that fills a need for us. Mathews is bigger and good speed; combine 4.45. Now Steph may plan on drafting Hardesty in 3rd...
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See you are assuming that I think SPiller is the BPA that fills a need for us. Mathews is bigger and good speed; combine 4.45. Now Steph may plan on drafting Hardesty in 3rd...
I'm not assuming anything about what you're thinking.

I'm assuming what STEPH is thinking.

Personally, I want Matthews. He's the guy I'd draft at that spot. Period. He's the guy I have my sights on even if the "top" CB or FS or DT is there. Matthews is #1 on my board based on the way I perceive our needs.

But a lot of people have Spiller as the #1 RB and I'm assuming that Steph had him as the BPA (regardless of need) at that point. And following common drafting logic, you take the BPA.

(I'm not a BPA guy. I'm a BPA w/ Need guy.)
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[quote=The Pencil Neck;1375806]I'm not assuming anything about what you're thinking.

I'm assuming what STEPH is thinking.

Personally, I want Matthews. He's the guy I'd draft at that spot. Period. He's the guy I have my sights on even if the "top" CB or FS or DT is there. Matthews is #1 on my board based on the way I perceive our needs.

But a lot of people have Spiller as the #1 RB and I'm assuming that Steph had him as the BPA (regardless of need) at that point. And following common drafting logic, you take the BPA.

(I'm not a BPA guy. I'm a BPA w/ Need guy.)[/QUOTE]Agreed
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I think Mathews offer better "all purpose yards" as I think Spiller will have same problems as Slaton. We don't have to worry about Slaton and another contract yet. I am hopeful Foster starts where he left off last 3 games. I am not against Spiller in first but if you do not get another RB later I would be very concerned.
Spiller doesn't have a reputation for fumbling like Slaton did.

If you are worried about injury issues relating to size and durability, I guess you can, but bigger doesn't mean not injury prone--Mathews had some injury history as well. I'm sure they checked out med records at the combine and poked them up good.

Spiller is worshiped by Clemson fans.

I picked Spiller because he was considered by a roughish majority of draft sites as BPA, and he was a BPA in a position of need.

I don't pretend to have any special knowledge of these players because I didn't see them play, YouTube doesn't count, and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, so I did what would be conventional.
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Spiller doesn't have a reputation for fumbling like Slaton did.

If you are worried about injury issues relating to size and durability, I guess you can, but bigger doesn't mean not injury prone--Mathews had some injury history as well. I'm sure they checked out med records at the combine and poked them up good.

Spiller is worshiped by Clemson fans.

I picked Spiller because he was considered by a roughish majority of draft sites as BPA, and he was a BPA in a position of need.

I don't pretend to have any special knowledge of these players because I didn't see them play, YouTube doesn't count, and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, so I did what would be conventional.
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20. Texans: C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson (Previous Pick: Taylor Mays)
The Texans need help on defense, especially at defensive back given Dunta Robinson's departure, but perhaps the best defense is an even more explosive offense (or maybe winning the field-position battle). Maybe this is the year the Texans stop making-do at running back and draft a high-pick, multi-purpose running back (without a fumbling history).
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there is only one player I have rated higher than Spiller who was still on the board & that is Trent Williams, OT I know but imagine the possiblities. more realistic of course is Kyle Wilson , a top notch CB to replace Dunta but if they thought this would hurt them why release him in the first place? The important thing is you followed your draft board & not your heart selecting BPA, can't ask anymore than that. good job!
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Spiller doesn't have a reputation for fumbling like Slaton did.

If you are worried about injury issues relating to size and durability, I guess you can, but bigger doesn't mean not injury prone--Mathews had some injury history as well. I'm sure they checked out med records at the combine and poked them up good.

Spiller is worshiped by Clemson fans.

I picked Spiller because he was considered by a roughish majority of draft sites as BPA, and he was a BPA in a position of need.

I don't pretend to have any special knowledge of these players because I didn't see them play, YouTube doesn't count, and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, so I did what would be conventional.
At one point last year , I believe Spiller was the leader for the Heisman , then he faded a bit .

What you should have done was have the Rams sign Demeco , JMO .
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You are going to take a corner with terrible hands in 2nd round? I guess he could jump up and try to knock the ball away with his head.
We will not have to worry about him intercepting and then fumbling will we?
I have CB's rated after the combine

1. Haden- Regardless of his 40 time I think he's going to be great. I dont trust combine 40 times. (see Mays)
2. Wilson-May end up being better than Haden
3. Ghee-Great cover CB only reason he falls is because of hands and they're not as bad as advertised.
4. Robinson-Most talented/inconsistent CB in this draft.

Correct Ghee wont fumble but if he hangs out with his RB friends he will learn to fumble. LOL
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I could live with Spiller, still need a short yardage guy but a home run hitter never hurts either
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Good pick Steph, BPA and a position of need.

I hope if I wake up tomorrow McClain will have reported the Texans have reached an agreement with Chester Taylor. This would allow the Texans to use Spiller as a bargaining chip in a potential trade down.
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Spiller doesn't have a reputation for fumbling like Slaton did.

If you are worried about injury issues relating to size and durability, I guess you can, but bigger doesn't mean not injury prone--Mathews had some injury history as well. I'm sure they checked out med records at the combine and poked them up good.
Spiller is worshiped by Clemson fans.

I picked Spiller because he was considered by a roughish majority of draft sites as BPA, and he was a BPA in a position of need.

I don't pretend to have any special knowledge of these players because I didn't see them play, YouTube doesn't count, and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, so I did what would be conventional.
Sorry TC should have clarified. I think any light fast back like Slaton or Spiller will hae difficulty going through the box. Both can be successful on slants, end arounds,etc. but is that what we need with Slaton already here and supposedly ready to go by game 1? Not to be rude but I couldn't care less if Spiller is worshipped by Clemson fans. Does not play into where we draft a guy. I am not against Spiller as I advocated for Charles from UT last season. If we knew Foster was going to be our power guy then SPiller would be a good choice.
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I have CB's rated after the combine

1. Haden- Regardless of his 40 time I think he's going to be great. I dont trust combine 40 times. (see Mays)
2. Wilson-May end up being better than Haden
3. Ghee-Great cover CB only reason he falls is because of hands and they're not as bad as advertised.
4. Robinson-Most talented/inconsistent CB in this draft.

Correct Ghee wont fumble but if he hangs out with his RB friends he will learn to fumble. LOL
You have an excellent read on Haden who will be a tremendous bust if he is not a very good cover corner in NFL. WIlson has been my guy for months & he has raced up the boards. May not be there for #20. Ghee, I actually liked him until combine and you could be right about his hands as he seemed to do ok in college. Main thing is he seems to be able to stay with the receiver. Doesn't matter how good a CB's hands are if he is out of range.
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Nice pick. Probably not my favorite but if it happened I think it would be a great move. Spiller kind of reminds me of a Reggie Bush that can run better between the tackles. I'll take that, pair him up with Arian Foster and Steve Slaton and we've got ourselves a pretty good looking trio of RB's.
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Good pick Steph, BPA and a position of need.

I hope if I wake up tomorrow McClain will have reported the Texans have reached an agreement with Chester Taylor. This would allow the Texans to use Spiller as a bargaining chip in a potential trade down.
Of the FA running backs Taylor interests me the most. What is your read on him as I did not follow him NFL years. He seems pretty good with less milage splitting time with Peterson correct? NFL TV show last night said he will have many offers.
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I am currently working on the FanHouse 2.0 Mock. Here's the FanHouse 1.0 Mock.
According to that mock my top 7 available are:

1. Kyle Wilson
2. Dan Williams
3. Jonathan Dwyer
4. Patrick Robinson
5. Taylor Mays
6. Donavan Warren
7. Maurkice Pouncey
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