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Per John McClain man, all I got to say is he continues to amaze me with his outstanding observations that even the legendary Stevie Wonder could see.
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LOL Gary be nice!
![]() I'm glad Dunta is leaving, its time we replace him. Do we get anything if he sign with another team and we don't match their offer? |
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I say to Dunta" Thank you for rewarding us fans with hard play and heart, and now, Don't let the door hit you in the ass".
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But, you know it is so true and kind of funny.
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We think all sorts of things ranging from "This is a horrible move that will set the franchise back for years to come" all the way to "Dunta was a cancer and a nickel CB at best - his departure is guaranteed to do nothing but make this team better".
Sadly, I believe both positions represent lunatic fringe (or at least lunatics), and the real answer is yet to be determined (but will not be either position described in my first paragraph).
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Yup, Don't want to damage the door.
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i would be ok with letting him walk if and only IF one of these two things happens...
1. He continues to ask for top 10 money. some team will pay him a rather large amount to leave but these teams will be teams like St. Louis or Cleveland or Tampa rather than like New England or New Orleans so if he leaves like that than i have no problem with him leaving. 2. we pick up a fairly good CB to replace him in FA. I'd love to see a first rounder go for a CB but we need a vet presense at that position and right now we'd start Reeves and Quin with Bennett and a few 2nd year players next year (McCain and Parsons) as depth. no thanks. |
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I was one of Dunta's biggest fans prior to the injury. Had he come back after the injury a step slower, but with out all the BS, I would still be a fan. However the crap he pulled was ridiculous, especially the "Hey I made a good play let's celebrate", while Manning torched the D, was the straw that broke the camel back.
I wish hime the best, but I think it's for the best. Yes we have a hole at CB now, but not a gaping hole (Anymore than there was before). Keeping Dunta just to make a different pick in the draft is a piss poor reason, it's the same logic as keeping Weaver so we wouldn't have to focus on DL.
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I would like to thank Dunta for everything he gave to this organization, but at the same time I do think that at this point the best thing for both parties is for him to move on.
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I liked dunta hair and hard hits other then that he couldn't play
cb worth a dand lol he was a capers guy anyway so u knew this would happen sooner or later now we just got to get a solid cb In the draft and groom him |
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Dunta Robinson is a classic case of burning your bridge. The only difference is he didn't burn it behind him, he burned it in front of him.
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DR is a great example of why we as a fan base should never get too attached to a specific player. At one point he was the most beloved Texan and was a major fan favorite. A few years later not only does he depart but there is a large contingent on this board that would have liked to have run him out of town.
So instead, cheer for the name on the front of the jersey, not the back. Today's most popular player may not be on the team tomorrow (ie HWWNBM or DR). It just saves a lot of aggravation in the end. Plus, it makes it a lot easier if we can trade an aging superstar who has lost a step or two for an up and comer or a solid draft picks. I am a Texans fan, not a fan of any specific player.
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Lets just run down our roster of cb's without him shall we.
Quinn- Promising prospect but still not sold after 1 year. Anyone remember Bennett's 1st year? He looked like a player too. Now he's pretty much on his way out. We can't annoint this guy just yet. Reeves - hasn't shown he can be the guy &/or stay healthy. Molden- can't stay healthy McCain- looked shaky at best during spot duty & could go either way. He's also afraid of contact. Bennett- LoL In other words, Its a bad move until we see what the texans decide to do to fill his void b/c make no mistake about it we have gotten worse with his departure. Nevertheless it had to be done b/c he doesn't deserve what he was being paid. Let him go & see what's out there for him. |
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The words "time to move on" don't always apply to a bad player. I think we'd pretty much established that David Carr was a lousy QB by the time he left the the Texans but even if that had still been in doubt (and there are still a few people who think the Texans ruined him and not the other way around) it was time for him to move on. People were tired of waiting on him to do something. Dunta is a different case and I don't think there's any doubt that he can play in the NFL and that he was a good corner. I don't believe he was anywhere close to the player he thought he was but he can start in the NFL. All the same it was time for him to move on and I think he knew that before any of us did. Dunta was the vocal one and the guy who seemed to take the early losing hardest so I'm glad he got to win at least one season here even if it was just by a single game. Still, I'm glad he's gone. It was time for a change back there.
I think Quinn is a promising prospect and I think Reeves will hold the other side down just fine until someone else is ready to do it. Nobody is "set" everywhere in this league. Everybody has a unit on their team they're still improving. Draft a highly regarded corner in the first round, sign somebody like Antrel Rolle if he gets released and just like that secondary will start being talked about like a position we're solid at. I think concern over Dunta's departure is a bit premature. We'll be fine. |
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Now, I think part of his issue was he was still recovering. I think he will get better, but I am not sure he is still a starter at this point.
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Dunta leaving is addition by subtraction.
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Every NFL team walks away from okay to good players at some point because the difference between them and Just Another Guy(s) is not as much as many fans tend to think.
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As I think back over the years, it seems that every time we might have been disappointed over losing a player we as fans thought should have been retained because of potential, he usually disappeared into oblivion.
As the Texans have "discarded" players, it has not been a case of "One man's trash is another man's treasure." Rather, "One man's treasure is another's trash." I believe this will be another case of a smelly treasure being recognized as partially deoderized trash. |
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