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Old 03-05-2005   #161
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Please Jamie, stay one more year!!! We need you!!!!!!!!!
I'm sorry, I believe that we need him.
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as much as I have lobbied for a true #2 WR, I would hate to give up Sharpier for it. Warrick is good when he is healthy but as of late that is far and inbetween.

I dont like it, not one bit.
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I think trading Sharper would be a huge mistake. The kind that comes up to bite you eventually.
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If Sharper won't sign an extension, what choice do the Texans have but to trade or release him? He'll be gone after the '05 season, anyway. For the future of the team, don't you think it's in everyones best interests to find a replacement (like Greenwood) and move on?
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I think its a "regardless what u do" thing with Sharper next season. If he stays, and he has a productive year, I think he would still be let go...just my .....wouldn't u guys agree?
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I think its a "regardless what u do" thing with Sharper next season. If he stays, and he has a productive year, I think he would still be let go...just my .....wouldn't u guys agree?
Yeah i do the guys 30 yrs old and he's not going to get any better as time goes buy im looking ahead for the future.
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Leadership? What kind of a leader begs to be led?

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"I was done with losing that first season," linebacker Jamie Sharper said. "No more positives. You have to produce. Somebody has to show us the way. There's a light at the end of the tunnel, but who's going to direct us there? We need somebody to direct us to wins instead of close games."

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If Sharper won't sign an extension, what choice do the Texans have but to trade or release him? He'll be gone after the '05 season, anyway. For the future of the team, don't you think it's in everyones best interests to find a replacement (like Greenwood) and move on?
JS arguably has been the Texans best D player in the teams brief history.
He's also been one of its most highly compensted - he was paid and paid
very well for his time and efforts and performance. If Jamies performace is on the decline and accordingly the team expects him to make a financial accomadation and he's unwilling to do so, well...this NFL thing is first and most of all a business.
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I just saw this on KFFL.

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ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports the Cleveland Browns may place C Jeff Faine on the trading block.
What do you think about trading Sharper or Foreman for him?
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What do you think about trading Sharper or Foreman for him?
Interesting. I don't think we'd be able to trade Foreman for him, but Faine would be a nice pickup. There are lots of good young C in the draft, but Faine might be able to start immediately.
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I just read a thread on the Browns message board about Faine .... they seem only too happy to be rid of him ....
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Just thinking. Some posters were speculating about DJ playing outside LB. What is Dwight Freeney's size? ( sorry,I'm lazy.) Besides,if we can do this trade,we have the option of choosing DJ, Braylon Edwards, or any of the RBs, Benson, Brown or Williams.

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I for one think if Jaime Sharper is not happy in Houston then get rid of him. The only he won a ring was because of Ray Lewis. I never really liked him from the start. Yes he has been productive for us over the past three years but if we can get another running back instead of reciever that would crucial!!! I am thinking Edgerrin James for Sharper and draft pick. Domanick Davis needs some help in the back field
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"I was done with losing that first season," linebacker Jamie Sharper said. "No more positives. You have to produce. Somebody has to show us the way. There's a light at the end of the tunnel, but who's going to direct us there? We need somebody to direct us to wins instead of close games."

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This quote was obviously a part of ongoing conversation. He easily could have been talking about himself and the need to make more big plays. When he says "you have to produce" he isn't talking about a coach. Just a thought.

Same thing my husband said. Could be he was talking of himself...you know the media NEVER misconstrues what the high profile say....
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To Foreman adios, but why Sharper???????????????? Are they trying to make cap room or go at the ILB spot from scratch? Maybe go after DJ in the draft?
They talkin bout Sharper cost to much look at Foreman he is to expensive,,,,,,,,,Jamie Sharper is our only playoff berth
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Listen want to get cap room why not trade David carr he is too expensive and he throws an interception every snap thatz emberresing
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Fox 26 just reported that after the Texans signed Greenwood, they told Sharper and Foreman they could go ahead and seek trades...

I think Greenwood will be a decent ILB, definitely better than Foreman, but nowhere near Sharper's level...

Discuss...
You true homeboy but foreman isnt that good and their paying him almost as much as Sharper but why do they get rid of Sharper he is an ICON around H-town and thiz just blew me up
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.... where to begin?

Sharper doesnt want to be here
Sharper is more expensive than foreman by a long shot
Sharper is 30 years old
Sharper has been unwilling to restructure
Sharper would not have been resigned next season
Sharper is not an icon around houston, or if he is, Carr is a much bigger one
Sharper getting traded now, means we get value for him.. as opposed to watching him leave and getting nothing next year

Carr is very accurate
Carr's cap hit is large this year but that is because his contract was majorly back loaded
Carr is the leader of our offense
Carr is young and has huge upside
Carr loves the town and the team and does not want to go anywhere
Carr's interceptions have mostly come at times when he was trying to make something happen when we were losing a game


Sharper is our only playoff berth? you mean he is the only guy we have who has made it to the playoffs? no he isnt. you mean he is the guy who is going to get us to the playoffs? how? he has been consistent every year and he hasnt carried us to the playoffs.. he keeps getting older and costing us more money, and the playoffs are only getting closer cause our rookies are getting better.

Sharper is a great ILB and if he restructures ill be happy to have him back.. but we dont NEED him.. plain and simple.
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Listen want to get cap room why not trade David carr he is too expensive and he throws an interception every snap thatz emberresing


What you been smokin ?

Go to NFL.com and compare Carr's stats to the TOP QB's in the NFL and you will find he is among the top 5-8 in several categories . Yes DC throws the occasional interception but many if not MOST of them can be directly attribted to POOR PROTECTION , not lack of talent , arm strength or mechanic's . Its pretty hard to hit your target when you are getting blasted from your blindside or forced to flee for your life on almost every passing play.

Considering the type of protection he's gotten over his 3 seasons here . im surprised he has such ..... respectable numbers . They could be much worse . Ask Saints Fan about Aaron Brooks ..... or Lions Fan about Joey Harrington .

My on Sharper and Foreman ....

Foreman is overpayed and has under produced . He is nothing more than a solid back up . Telling him to seek out a trade is more or less allowing him to find employment @ his current salary or telling him you either re-structure or get CUT . If they trade him at least they get something for him ..(if they throw in a six pack of cold ones) .... possibly a 4th -5th rounder.

Sharper is a different story . He's an established starting calibur NFL LB . Although he is getting older , he is still a better than average LB and one of the anchors of the Texans D. This is nothing more than a cap move . Either they re-structure the contract so as not to take the big cam hit next season and cut him like the Patriots have notably done with several players over the past couple years or they trade him now and get some value for him . Seems to me the choice is up to Sharper .

As for how this affects the draft .... if both players are traded or cut in the case of Foreman this turns a position of strength into a glaring weakness as far as depth meaning the texans are looking at a specific player in the draft . This could be DJ in the first round (most likely via trade up) or any number of players in the 2nd-4th rounds.

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not sure what to make of all of this...i love how they did this on friday and the weekend basically killed all nfl deals...especially on sunday when there is pretty much no work being done...maybe over the weekend both sides have cooled down and maybe able to get a deal done...with sharper that is...if i was casserly i would either redo the foreman deal where he is getting about the vet. minimum or trade him for whatever we can get...sharper i would try to extend...i wouldn't trade him just yet because you never know how this season could turn out...we could have one of the biggest turn arounds and make it deep into the playoffs then sharper would want to return or we could trade him now and go bust because our ILB's all got hurt...personally i'd rather hold out and hope we have a great season and able to resign him rather than the other scenerio
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