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Old 03-04-2005   #121
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What is our window of opportunity for Sharper anyway? how long do we have to move him or restructure his contract?
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Old 03-04-2005   #122
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apologize for not having identified this source, but i'm workin on it, it was posted on www.thecollegegridiron.com/forums (a board I am an admin for) by a guy who usually doesn't make up stuff like this.

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Sources said Thursday night that linebacker Jamie Sharper has been given permission to seek a trade, a move that would clear space at an overstocked position and rid the Texans of Sharper's $6.13 million salary-cap hit for 2005, the final year of Sharper's five-year contract the Texans acquired from Baltimore in the 2002 expansion draft.
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and i'm quite possibly retarded, that came from the Moronicle, and was probably already posted today.
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Why are the Texans trying to save $6 mil by getting rid of Sharper? I don't think they're in serious cap trouble. Are they? Also, what will they do with the 6 mil? If they want a high quality player, it might cost them the same 6 mil. They could use it to sign 2-3 players for depth, but they wouldn't get much talent.

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Just a hunch, but when a report says a player has been given permission to seek a trade, that usually means that the players WANTS to be traded. Sharper wasn't shy about voicing displease over coaching decisions last year, so it wouldn't surprise me if he wanted out. I don't really disagree with that guy.
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Leaders don't look to others (even their coaches) for leadership, they step up and lead. In fact, they take responsibility for the team instead of the coaches.
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Leaders don't look to others (even their coaches) for leadership, they step up and lead. In fact, they take responsibility for the team instead of the coaches.
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and didn't Gfunk say something along the same lines at one point of the season also?
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and didn't Gfunk say something along the same lines at one point of the season also?
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What about trading Jamie Sharper plus our 1st round pick (#13), for Cleveland's 1st round pick (#3)?

Then we could draft Derrick Johnson, and we would be all set at the middle linebacker spots for years to come.

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I am thinking the thing is a negotiating ploy.. IMO. Sharpers agent playing hardball... and the Texans aren't blinking and they are playing hardball..

If not and strickly a salary move .. I personally would rather keep Sharper than Payne .... but I am thinking that Sharper's agent is comanding too big of bucks so the Texans are doing what they have too..
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What about trading Jamie Sharper plus our 1st round pick (#13), for Cleveland's 1st round pick (#3)?

Then we could draft Derrick Johnson, and we would be all set at the middle linebacker spots for years to come.

The Browns have new coaches. Their not stupid anymore. They are not trading for a 30 year old in the last year of his contract who wants a big extention and lose 10 spots in a draft that really doesnt have that many big names at the top. That trade will never happen.
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A lot of ppl on the Browns Message board seem to think that Sharper + 13th pick for the # 3 over all and a later pick anywhere from round 4-7 would be a good deal for the browns....I think it would be a good move for the future, probably wouldnt pay this year but in the next season or 2 it would be worth it...
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A lot of ppl on the Browns Message board seem to think that Sharper + 13th pick for the # 3 over all and a later pick anywhere from round 4-7 would be a good deal for the browns....I think it would be a good move for the future, probably wouldnt pay this year but in the next season or 2 it would be worth it...

You're right, most of their fans think it's a steal. Let's get it done.
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A lot of ppl on the Browns Message board seem to think that Sharper + 13th pick for the # 3 over all and a later pick anywhere from round 4-7 would be a good deal for the browns...
That's why Randy Lerner hired Phil Savage as GM rather than a guy off the Browns' BB. That deal would assume Sharper has the value of a 1st round pick. He doesn't.
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Savage used to be the Ratbirds Director of Player Personnel and I think he was there when they put Sharper on the expansion list. He may not like Sharper, or perhaps he just didn't like his contract. They are switching to a 3-4 this year but I do agree with the Luckster though. That deal doesn't strike me as one that they would do. If Sharper was an edge player I'd think it would be a viable scenario.
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actually.. that isnt assuming that he has the value of a 1st round pick.. they are offering us the #3 pick(and a second day pick).. for Sharper, and our #13.


so really.. they are saying sharper is worth ten spots in the draft.. plus a second day pick. that is tempting.. but id be wary of it. if we want DJ, he could be gone at #2. id like to get a first rounder and keep our first rounder.. so that we can trade up if we want to, or if DJ just doesnt fall far enough for us to do that, we still have 2 first round picks to work with.
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I think the Texans can improve themselves more by moving Wong inside and use a pick to bring more youth/depth onto the team.
Lets say we did move Wong back inside and have him along with greenwood for the ILB's. If we were to get the 3rd overall pick which i think is what some are speculating. And we drafted DJ would he split time with Peek and Babin or would we leave Wong on the outside (With Peek and Babin rotating) and have DJ and Greenwood on the inside?

Just curious as to how our LB positions would look if we traded Sharper and picked up DJ.

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Peek-Greenwood-Wong-Babin (w/ DJ rotating in with Bab & Peek)

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Wong-Greenwood-DJ-Babin (w/ Peek rotating in like he did last year.)
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Lets say we did move Wong back inside and have him along with greenwood for the ILB's. If we were to get the 3rd overall pick which i think is what some are speculating. And we drafted DJ would he split time with Peek and Babin or would we leave Wong on the outside (With Peek and Babin rotating) and have DJ and Greenwood on the inside?

Just curious as to how our LB positions would look if we traded Sharper and picked up DJ.

Hence:
Peek-Greenwood-Wong-Babin (w/ DJ rotating in with Bab & Peek)

or

Wong-Greenwood-DJ-Babin (w/ Peek rotating in like he did last year.)
I think DJ would rotate in at the MLB positions, because people believe he is a better coverage guy than a blitzer. Wong would still be on the inside though, but DJ is younger with more potential so he would likely be Wong's replacement latter down the road.
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DJ is too small to be an olb in our system. He would have to play inside.
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Vinny DJ weighed 242 is that to small. I think you can move him around . He seems to be a smart player .
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