Jamie Sharper on the Trading Block - Page 7 - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

Grid · 03-04-2005

What is our window of opportunity for Sharper anyway? how long do we have to move him or restructure his contract?

BradK10 · 03-04-2005

apologize for not having identified this source, but i'm workin on it, it was posted on www.thecollegegridiron.com/forums (a board I am an admin for) by a guy who usually doesn't make up stuff like this.

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Sources said Thursday night that linebacker Jamie Sharper has been given permission to seek a trade, a move that would clear space at an overstocked position and rid the Texans of Sharper's $6.13 million salary-cap hit for 2005, the final year of Sharper's five-year contract the Texans acquired from Baltimore in the 2002 expansion draft.

BradK10 · 03-04-2005

and i'm quite possibly retarded, that came from the Moronicle, and was probably already posted today.

RTP2110 · 03-04-2005

Why are the Texans trying to save $6 mil by getting rid of Sharper? I don't think they're in serious cap trouble. Are they? Also, what will they do with the 6 mil? If they want a high quality player, it might cost them the same 6 mil. They could use it to sign 2-3 players for depth, but they wouldn't get much talent.

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Originally Posted by Vinny

One way to check your market value when you refuse to restructure your agreement in the last year is to contact other teams to see if you are truly worth what you are asking for.

I really hope this is the case.

BradK10 · 03-04-2005

Just a hunch, but when a report says a player has been given permission to seek a trade, that usually means that the players WANTS to be traded. Sharper wasn't shy about voicing displease over coaching decisions last year, so it wouldn't surprise me if he wanted out. I don't really disagree with that guy.

BornOrange · 03-05-2005

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"Somebody has to show us the way. There's a light at the end of the tunnel, but who's going to direct us there? We need somebody to direct us to wins instead of close games."

Leaders don't look to others (even their coaches) for leadership, they step up and lead. In fact, they take responsibility for the team instead of the coaches.

Wolf · 03-05-2005

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Originally Posted by BornOrange

Leaders don't look to others (even their coaches) for leadership, they step up and lead. In fact, they take responsibility for the team instead of the coaches.

Agreed
and didn't Gfunk say something along the same lines at one point of the season also?

BornOrange · 03-05-2005

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Originally Posted by Wolf

Agreed
and didn't Gfunk say something along the same lines at one point of the season also?

He sure did.

MojoMan · 03-05-2005

What about trading Jamie Sharper plus our 1st round pick (#13), for Cleveland's 1st round pick (#3)?

Then we could draft Derrick Johnson, and we would be all set at the middle linebacker spots for years to come.

Wolf · 03-05-2005

I am thinking the thing is a negotiating ploy.. IMO. Sharpers agent playing hardball... and the Texans aren't blinking and they are playing hardball..

If not and strickly a salary move .. I personally would rather keep Sharper than Payne .... but I am thinking that Sharper's agent is comanding too big of bucks so the Texans are doing what they have too..

Fiddy · 03-05-2005

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Originally Posted by MojoMan

What about trading Jamie Sharper plus our 1st round pick (#13), for Cleveland's 1st round pick (#3)?

Then we could draft Derrick Johnson, and we would be all set at the middle linebacker spots for years to come.

The Browns have new coaches. Their not stupid anymore. They are not trading for a 30 year old in the last year of his contract who wants a big extention and lose 10 spots in a draft that really doesnt have that many big names at the top. That trade will never happen.

Dunta_23 · 03-05-2005

A lot of ppl on the Browns Message board seem to think that Sharper + 13th pick for the # 3 over all and a later pick anywhere from round 4-7 would be a good deal for the browns....I think it would be a good move for the future, probably wouldnt pay this year but in the next season or 2 it would be worth it...

pskinny · 03-05-2005

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Originally Posted by Dunta_23

A lot of ppl on the Browns Message board seem to think that Sharper + 13th pick for the # 3 over all and a later pick anywhere from round 4-7 would be a good deal for the browns....I think it would be a good move for the future, probably wouldnt pay this year but in the next season or 2 it would be worth it...

You're right, most of their fans think it's a steal. Let's get it done.

**Lucky** · 03-05-2005

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Originally Posted by Dunta_23

A lot of ppl on the Browns Message board seem to think that Sharper + 13th pick for the # 3 over all and a later pick anywhere from round 4-7 would be a good deal for the browns...

That's why Randy Lerner hired Phil Savage as GM rather than a guy off the Browns' BB. That deal would assume Sharper has the value of a 1st round pick. He doesn't.

**Vinny** · 03-05-2005

Savage used to be the Ratbirds Director of Player Personnel and I think he was there when they put Sharper on the expansion list. He may not like Sharper, or perhaps he just didn't like his contract. They are switching to a 3-4 this year but I do agree with the Luckster though. That deal doesn't strike me as one that they would do. If Sharper was an edge player I'd think it would be a viable scenario.

Grid · 03-05-2005

actually.. that isnt assuming that he has the value of a 1st round pick.. they are offering us the #3 pick(and a second day pick).. for Sharper, and our #13.

so really.. they are saying sharper is worth ten spots in the draft.. plus a second day pick. that is tempting.. but id be wary of it. if we want DJ, he could be gone at #2. id like to get a first rounder and keep our first rounder.. so that we can trade up if we want to, or if DJ just doesnt fall far enough for us to do that, we still have 2 first round picks to work with.

AndreJ · 03-05-2005

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Originally Posted by TexanBacker55

I think the Texans can improve themselves more by moving Wong inside and use a pick to bring more youth/depth onto the team.

Lets say we did move Wong back inside and have him along with greenwood for the ILB's. If we were to get the 3rd overall pick which i think is what some are speculating. And we drafted DJ would he split time with Peek and Babin or would we leave Wong on the outside (With Peek and Babin rotating) and have DJ and Greenwood on the inside?

Just curious as to how our LB positions would look if we traded Sharper and picked up DJ.

Hence:
Peek-Greenwood-Wong-Babin (w/ DJ rotating in with Bab & Peek)

or

Wong-Greenwood-DJ-Babin (w/ Peek rotating in like he did last year.)

LikeABoss · 03-05-2005

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Originally Posted by AndreJ

Lets say we did move Wong back inside and have him along with greenwood for the ILB's. If we were to get the 3rd overall pick which i think is what some are speculating. And we drafted DJ would he split time with Peek and Babin or would we leave Wong on the outside (With Peek and Babin rotating) and have DJ and Greenwood on the inside?

Just curious as to how our LB positions would look if we traded Sharper and picked up DJ.

Hence:
Peek-Greenwood-Wong-Babin (w/ DJ rotating in with Bab & Peek)

or

Wong-Greenwood-DJ-Babin (w/ Peek rotating in like he did last year.)

I think DJ would rotate in at the MLB positions, because people believe he is a better coverage guy than a blitzer. Wong would still be on the inside though, but DJ is younger with more potential so he would likely be Wong's replacement latter down the road.

**Vinny** · 03-05-2005

DJ is too small to be an olb in our system. He would have to play inside.

Honoring Earl 34 · 03-05-2005

Vinny DJ weighed 242 is that to small. I think you can move him around . He seems to be a smart player .

03-04-2005	#123
BradK10 Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Age: 33 Posts: 1,097 Rep Power: 10	and i'm quite possibly retarded, that came from the Moronicle, and was probably already posted today. __________________ For the love of God, I'm from Houston, NOT Arizona. I only live here.

03-04-2005	#125
BradK10 Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Age: 33 Posts: 1,097 Rep Power: 10	Just a hunch, but when a report says a player has been given permission to seek a trade, that usually means that the players WANTS to be traded. Sharper wasn't shy about voicing displease over coaching decisions last year, so it wouldn't surprise me if he wanted out. I don't really disagree with that guy. __________________ For the love of God, I'm from Houston, NOT Arizona. I only live here.

03-05-2005	#130
Wolf 100% Texan Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kerrville Age: 43 Posts: 35,813 Rep Power: 40226	I am thinking the thing is a negotiating ploy.. IMO. Sharpers agent playing hardball... and the Texans aren't blinking and they are playing hardball.. If not and strickly a salary move .. I personally would rather keep Sharper than Payne .... but I am thinking that Sharper's agent is comanding too big of bucks so the Texans are doing what they have too.. __________________ People who say that they don't know what to get me for my birthday have obviously never been to a liquor store

03-05-2005	#132
Dunta_23 All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Age: 30 Posts: 824 Rep Power: 9	.... A lot of ppl on the Browns Message board seem to think that Sharper + 13th pick for the # 3 over all and a later pick anywhere from round 4-7 would be a good deal for the browns....I think it would be a good move for the future, probably wouldnt pay this year but in the next season or 2 it would be worth it...

03-05-2005	#135
Vinny shiny happy fan Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 20,714 Rep Power: 55750	Savage used to be the Ratbirds Director of Player Personnel and I think he was there when they put Sharper on the expansion list. He may not like Sharper, or perhaps he just didn't like his contract. They are switching to a 3-4 this year but I do agree with the Luckster though. That deal doesn't strike me as one that they would do. If Sharper was an edge player I'd think it would be a viable scenario. __________________ http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk "A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow

03-04-2005	#121
Grid Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,299 Rep Power: 2271	What is our window of opportunity for Sharper anyway? how long do we have to move him or restructure his contract?

03-05-2005	#129
MojoMan Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston Posts: 9,864 Rep Power: 11948	What about trading Jamie Sharper plus our 1st round pick (#13), for Cleveland's 1st round pick (#3)? Then we could draft Derrick Johnson, and we would be all set at the middle linebacker spots for years to come.

03-05-2005	#136
Grid Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,299 Rep Power: 2271	actually.. that isnt assuming that he has the value of a 1st round pick.. they are offering us the #3 pick(and a second day pick).. for Sharper, and our #13. so really.. they are saying sharper is worth ten spots in the draft.. plus a second day pick. that is tempting.. but id be wary of it. if we want DJ, he could be gone at #2. id like to get a first rounder and keep our first rounder.. so that we can trade up if we want to, or if DJ just doesnt fall far enough for us to do that, we still have 2 first round picks to work with.

03-05-2005	#139
Vinny shiny happy fan Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 20,714 Rep Power: 55750	DJ is too small to be an olb in our system. He would have to play inside. __________________ http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk "A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow

03-05-2005	#140
Honoring Earl 34 Hey Koolaid Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Houston Age: 50 Posts: 16,738 Rep Power: 35890	Vinny DJ weighed 242 is that to small. I think you can move him around . He seems to be a smart player .

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