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Old 03-30-2005   #401
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I finally found something in writing about Jamie: http://www.bengals.com/press/news.as...0&news_id=2792

Pisses me off that I have to buy a new jersey in PROTEST of what they're doing.

We should ALL do that...buy his new team jersey and wear it opening day ( regular season ) in protest of this...

**sigh**
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Yeah this pisses me off too. I thought I was over it but I guess not!
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I love Sharper's play for the Texans, but he is wearing down and getting older. We have young and speedy linebackers on our roster already so if you move Sharper, somebody will step up. What if the Texans trade Sharper and our second pick for Dallas' second first round pick? I'm thinking Alex Barron at 13 and either Carlos Rogers or Fabian Washington at 20. Barron will give us a franchise left tackle and imagine Rogers or Washington opposite Robinson. That will allow Aaron Glenn to move to nickel or dime back. As for d-line and wide receiver, look at these two young players we can trade for late draft picks...

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/493017
Johnnie Morant-young, tall, athletic receiver, great hands and speed,age 23

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235152
Terdell Sands-young, massive nose tackle, takes up a lot of space, under the guidance of Ted Washington, age 25

That's what we should do.
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Sharper has never missed a game in his eight year career? That has to say something. I am tired of us trying new people on defense. We all want consistency well maybe keeping the people that have proven to be there over the years would help that out. This defense has been bothered by injuries in the past and he has proven to be durable.
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I think the team wanted to get faster in its chase backers (inside guys) and Sharper has probably lost a step. I complained about his play several times last year and mused he was on decline. That is debatable, but it sure looks like the Texans see it that way as well. Not all Texans fans are upset over this.
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I am not either and I don't see it as hurting us if we lose him but I do wish we could get the same players for a few years especially standouts. This way we have no excuses. I guess the team knows better though.
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The only player I see who is declining is Gary Walker but we signed him on thinking he will do better this season. What gives us the right to predict who is going to do better?

People, Sharper is not old. He is still young.
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Over the history of the NFL there are many people I could point to in the 2-gap tackle mold that has had long careers because their skill set doesn't really have to factor in losing a step due to age. I think Walker has a much better chance to play at a high level longer than Sharper does. I'm in the minority opinion but I see Walkers struggles tied into his injuries and it limited his explosion the last year and a half. I don't see why he cannot reach the Pro Bowl status he played to when he was our first Pro Bowler. He hasn't lost any of the skills that make 2-gap players effective; he just had some nagging injury concerns. Speed is a key component to our inside linebacker spot however. If you watch the games again we were a step slow across the board inside all year long. I'm not all tore up on this Sharper thing myself. I hope he gets a nice gig.
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I finally found something in writing about Jamie: http://www.bengals.com/press/news.as...0&news_id=2792

Pisses me off that I have to buy a new jersey in PROTEST of what they're doing.

We should ALL do that...buy his new team jersey and wear it opening day ( regular season ) in protest of this...

**sigh**
Yeah - the TEXANS are the bad guys in this and Sharper is just a poor defenseless waif that wants to be with his bud in Cincinatti. Amazing how a one-sided spin can be placed on it.

It's a business brother. The company is looking to profit from the move and will wait till the last moment if necessary. Welcome to the contract you signed.

I'm gonna miss him (if it does end up a split), and he served well during his tenure here... he even graces my Battle Red jersey and don't plan on buying another red one any time soon just because he leaves. Ditto Vinny that I wish him well in his future endevors, but dang - can you blame the Texans for trying to make an improvement on defense and pass rushes?

Seem to recall a few posts this past year of "why can't we get to the QB?"

... and no, texan_fan, I'm not calling you out. Just voicing a response to that link. Everyone has their opinion.
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Speed is a key component to our inside linebacker spot however. If you watch the games again we were a step slow across the board inside all year long.
Jamies speed was not the only thing that receded last year, his intensity
did to. I imagine he became frustrated and his competitive edge got a little dull about the time he realized for the third consecutive year that he would not get into the playoffs and once again would not make the Hawaii trip. He should have gone to the Pro Bowl after the '03 sweason when he led the league in tackles, but its tough when you're on a team with a losing record.
Jamie (and A.Glenn and G.Walker for that matter) were never this teams future - they were our X draft personnel to permit us to run in place until we could really develope our team with a base of players lead by Carr, AJ, D-Rob, etc.
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Jamie (and A.Glenn and G.Walker for that matter) were never this teams future - they were our X draft personnel to permit us to run in place until we could really develope our team with a base of players lead by Carr, AJ, D-Rob, etc.
You bring up a good point here. Wong, Sharper, Walker, Payne, Coleman, Glenn, Foreman, and McKinney were brought in 3 years ago while they were in their relative primes. 2-3 years from now, they will all likely be considered "past their prime". One or two of them might still be productive, but we have to plan for the rest of the guys' replacements. D-Rob is Coleman's replacement at CB. Greenwood is Foreman's replacement. Babin was Wong's initial replacement, but we just moved him. Perhaps Peek will subplant him on the other side and Wong will replace Sharper's soon-to-be-departed spot.

That still leaves Wong (as an ILB), Payne, Walker, Coleman (at FS now), and our favorite punching bag, Steve McKinney, to get bumped of the next few years. We have our work cut out for us.
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I agree with Grid. I cannot see us losing Shaper without trying to get Johnson.

Also I may be alone on this...but I think if we give Carr enogh time in the pocket ( O-line upgrade) he could still utilize Gaffney.
Gaffney is a great receiver waitng to happen! His hands are good, he doesn't have break away speed but neither did Jerry Rice. Not comparing him to Rice but I think our receiver corps is set. We need to free up David to allow him to utilize them.
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When was this said?

Sorry, I thought there was a post on this thread that said someone was asking for Sharper, Wand and a second for Orlando Pace. I click back and then that post is gone. Sorry don't mind me.

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MLB Status in Free Agency.....

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The other position at which there is a logjam in free agency is linebacker, especially middle linebacker, where several starting caliber players remain in limbo. Longtime starting middle 'backers such as Ronald McKinnon of Arizona and Indianapolis' Rob Morris are still looking for work but, as is the case with safeties, might have to wait until after the draft to find homes.

The Cincinnati Bengals are looking for a new starter in the middle but appear to be in no hurry to fill the position. As indicated here last week, the Bengals seem poised to make some type of move with Nate Webster, who they signed last spring to be the starter, but who suffered a patella tendon injury from which he has been slow to recover. The guess here is that Cincinnati eventually will reach an injury settlement with Webster and fill the spot with one of two 2004 draft picks, Landon Johnson or Caleb Miller, or add a veteran run-stuffer.

Two names to watch: Jamie Sharper of Houston and Atlanta's Chris Draft. Both veterans are on the trading block but Cincinnati coach Marvin Lewis is more apt to play a waiting game, hoping that one or both of the players will be released after the draft.
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Hopefully Casserly will be able to find a couple of customers. Maybe between Cincy and Cleveland.
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and this topic is dead. Dr. please remove the feeding tube to this thread.
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