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Old 03-03-2005   #21
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How could anyone guarantee us DJ? We would have to get the number 1 pick in the draft to be guaranteed DJ.
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Old 03-03-2005   #22
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:woot Sharpers in the last year of his contract . The Texans are not Super Bowl contenders so their not playing for 1 year . If they got a good deal why not trade him before he becomes a free agent .
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why, he is the best defensive player we have and has been since this team was created.
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Sharper and the Texans are both optimistic that they can rework his contract but if not then they will trade him (thats what Berman said), but don't expect a trade with Sharper involved.

Forman is gone, but Sharper will rework his contract.

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:woot Sentimental value is worth zero dollars . His best days may be behind him . So we overpay next year to keep him a Texan or get a 2nd rd pick this year .
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:woot Sharpers in the last year of his contract . The Texans are not Super Bowl contenders so their not playing for 1 year . If they got a good deal why not trade him before he becomes a free agent .
I like the idea, i believe we could get something very good out of this. What i don't know, but we obviously have something big in store for us and we are long over do for it.
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Didnt see that one coming...
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Anyone remember during the season when Sharper spoke out against the team. . . Stating "Something" needed to change. Anyone think he might be fed up with the Texans style and wants to move on while he feels he still has the chance of being successful?
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Behind the scenes what this may mean is the Texans are contrary to their m.o. already working on an extension for Sharper and have made him an offer he is not ready to sign. Rather than let him hit FA next year they have let him see what his value is this year in the hopes that it encourages a deal getting done rather than actually expecting a trade. Could be a good cap move to get Sharper's last NFL contract prorating now rather than a year down the road.
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I think this is a win-win situation for us.

what could happen:

Sharper stays and reworks his contract.. giving us more cap room and getting him signed up and ready to retire here in houston.

Sharper gets traded for a player or two that we could really use.. like Olinemen or Dlinemen. We grab another ILB in the draft.. Thurman in the Second.. or Davis in the first and convert him to ILB.

Sharper gets traded for a first rounder and we trade up to grab Derrick Johnson

Sharper gets no offer.. we do not rework the contract.. and nothing changes. But as Infantry says.. he gets an idea of what he can get when he becomes an FA and it makes negotiations easier down the road.



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Sharper, Wand, and our 2nd for.............Orlando Pace!!!! ? ?
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our old, expensive ILB and our young promising tackle for an old expensive tackle.

no thank you.
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Sharper's contract will be a big hit for us next year. That LB crew has underachieved greatly last year. Instead of patching it, we might be cleaning house since there seems to be oodles of tweeners in the draft.
Interesting thought. Drafting two linebackers early. Haven't considered it but in lieu of this news I'm gonna put my Einstein Jr thinking cap on. This may be the mock I spew out soon. Ought to draw out tons of objections across the board. You my man, iz brilliant.
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Vinny how can you justify that you think Walker might have had only a down year and think he will bounce back and yet you think Sharper is declining when he has his down year? Sharpers play wasn't spectacular last year but it was far from bad. Our course a veteran like Sharper is going to have a big salary in his last year, not too many veterans don't. They just resign and stretch out the rest of the contract. He's 1 season removed from a great year and then all of the sudden he's trash. I don't get that.

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I did. Told ya it would bring objections.
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Thomas Davis and Odell Thurman. That would be interesting.. not as interesting as getting DJ though .
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Vinny how can you justify that you think Walker might have had only a down year and think he will bounce back and yet you think Sharper is declining when he has his down year? Sharpers play wasn't spectacular last year but it was far from bad. Our course a veteran like Sharper is going to have a big salary in his last year, not too many veterans don't. They just resign and stretch out the rest of the contract. He's 1 season removed from a great year and then all of the sudden he's trash. I don't get that.

Oh be careful what you wish for.
I'm not wishing for anything. Just idle speculation. Why do I think Walker will bounce back? Because talented two-gap tackles have pretty long careers and are effective deep into them. I think Walker has an ideal football temperament and is going to work hard and play with some pride next year. Apparently the entire Texan fan nation has written him completely off as a viable player. Count me out on that one. Sharper plays a position that has a different dynamic, and I thought he looked like a player that could be in decline. This is not the first time I have mentioned this. Not anything worth arguing over since its just some random, idle speculation. Take it fwiw only.

ps I never said Sharper "all of a sudden was trash". that was you stating that I implied it. I clearly state that I think he is still a good LB.
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My advice to the Texans...trade them somewhere where they can't kill us but once every 4 years.


I agree with Vinny tho...Sharper wasn't as good as I seen him in 02/03. That being said, Sharper is somewhat the leader on defense, but we may be able to get some good for Sharper....but this may be something to make J-Sharp fix his current deal.
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you lost me

I just dont get where I said that we need to draft 2 LBs. I dont even know that I mentioned the draft at all..... this escapes me Vin, mind explaining?
You said "there seems to be oodles of tweeners in the draft".

I said, Interesting thought. Drafting two linebackers early. <That was my thought, that wasn't me doing an impression of you. I was in agreement that there are "oodles of tweeners", so that made me think of an interesting posibility...drafting two linebackers early.
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