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Old 03-03-2005   #1
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I read this at the Jags MB and since I know nothing about fanball.com I don't know how reliable this story is...



The Vikings have the money to pursue the top remaining free agent receiver Plaxico Burress (Steelers). The problem with such a move is that Burress has a reputation for being a Moss-like head case with half the talent of the former No. 84. Team officials are scheduled to meet with Travis Taylor (Ravens), which would be a dramatic downgrade from Moss.

Trade rumors indicate that the Vikings are considering the idea of sending running back Michael Bennett and a second-round pick to the Cardinals in exchange for wideout Anquan Boldin. Team officials failed to address these rumors during a Thursday press conference, so it's hard to say how serious the talks have been.
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I doubt the Cards would give up Boldin, but D. Green has done strange things before.
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Boldin is a up and coming wide out... why would the Cards even think of trading him?!
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He wants alot more money for his lone good season than the Cards want to pay him. Makes sense to me. They get a good RB, a high draft pick and they still have Larry Fitzgerald.
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If they do the Cards will be kicking them selfs in the near future... this guy has the mold of TO his rookie year, and if he didnt get hurt last year he would of had another good season.... i just see him as one of the best WR's in the NFL in a couple of years..
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Up and coming wideout vs a RB who hasnt really accomplished much?

I dont think so.
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sounds like a portis-bailey situation from last year. the cards have to make sure that bennett is healthy, though.
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sounds like a portis-bailey situation from last year. the cards have to make sure that bennett is healthy, though.
Naw, The Portis-Bailey deal actually made sense for both teams.This one is just highway robbery given the depth of the Vikes at RB.
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Why is Boldin considered an "up and comer" after just one good season but Bennett isn't? He put up a 1200+ yard season his 2nd year in. The wild-card would be him remaining healthy.

For Minnesota, they give up one of their RBs (they've got plenty) and get a promising WR (which they could use).

For Arizona, they get a homerun hitting RB (when healthy) as well as a 2nd round pick. They lose a promising WR but have a star in Fitzgerald and another first round draft pick in Bryant Johnson.

How would this be a bad trade for either team?
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Why is Boldin considered an "up and comer" after just one good season but Bennett isn't? He put up a 1200+ yard season his 2nd year in. The wild-card would be him remaining healthy.

For Minnesota, they give up one of their RBs (they've got plenty) and get a promising WR (which they could use).

For Arizona, they get a homerun hitting RB (when healthy) as well as a 2nd round pick. They lose a promising WR but have a star in Fitzgerald and another first round draft pick in Bryant Johnson.

How would this be a bad trade for either team?
Think of it this way...if Boldin can go for 1350+ yards with Jeff Blake and Josh McCown throwing him the ball, what would he do with a Culpepper??
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Was he going to go for 1350+ again with Larry Fitzgerald on the other side of the field? He won't in Minnesota with Kelly Campbell and Nate Burleson either.

I'm not saying Minnesota would get the short end of this deal. Just saying it'd be a fair trade because Bennett is a player in his own right.
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Was he going to go for 1350+ again with Larry Fitzgerald on the other side of the field? He won't in Minnesota with Kelly Campbell and Nate Burleson either.

I'm not saying Minnesota would get the short end of this deal. Just saying it'd be a fair trade because Bennett is a player in his own right.
Oh how I hope Fitz turns into a bust....ugh, thats another story.

Both are semi-risks. Bennett cant seem to stay healthy and Boldin is "unproven" as well.However, it is far harder to find a 1200 yard(projecting last years totals out, adding 2003s stats and dividing by 2...) WR than it is to find a 1000 yard back. Even then, Bennett hasnt proven he is a 1000 yard back.
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what i meant was the holdout equation. portis (2 years experience) was prolly going to hold last year, and boldin (2 years experience) is a likely holdout this without a new, more lucrative, deal. i don't think it is as much as one sided as people think. it seems both teams would be dealing from a strength.

vikes- slew of RB's (bennett/ o. smith/moore)
cards- a decent stable of WR's (boldin/johnson/fitzgerald)

i would rather have onterrio smith than bennett, though.
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Oh how I hope Fitz turns into a bust....ugh, thats another story.

You've opened the can of worms now....spill it.

Fitz is a great guy, why would you hope he busts?
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You've opened the can of worms now....spill it.

Fitz is a great guy, why would you hope he busts?
Let's just say, from certain issues that have happened in my life, I have issues with anything that comes from in/near/around/through Pittsburgh... Classy, mature player...still got that Pitt stink on him though
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You went to Penn State didn't you?

My ex's mom is from Pittsburgh, went to PSU, and still chants "Eat **** Pitt!"
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Oh how I hope Fitz turns into a bust....ugh, thats another story.

Both are semi-risks. Bennett cant seem to stay healthy and Boldin is "unproven" as well.However, it is far harder to find a 1200 yard(projecting last years totals out, adding 2003s stats and dividing by 2...) WR than it is to find a 1000 yard back. Even then, Bennett hasnt proven he is a 1000 yard back.
Bennett went for over 1200+ his 2nd year in the league.
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Bennett went for over 1200+ his 2nd year in the league.
Yes, he had ONE good season. He hasnt been able to stay healthy since. His career projections would be an 857.5 yard per season back.
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Yes, he had ONE good season. He hasnt been able to stay healthy since. His career projections would be an 857.5 yard per season back.
As opposed to Boldin who's had several?

Explain to me again how Bennett can put up 1296 yards in one season but still not prove that he can be a 1000 yd RB.

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As opposed to Boldin who's had several?
Boldin averages 20.6 more yards per game RECEIVEING, than Bennett does RUSHING the ball.I mean runningbacks get the ball 20-25 more times per game than a WR does...Also taking into consideration who'd been throwing him the ball, he's easily the better player now by leaps and bounds.
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