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Old 03-03-2005   #81
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Thats what I think as well. Greenwood had zero sacks last year and is supposedly great in coverage. Meaning a better fit for Inside.
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how good is this guy.. you can't look at numbers that much because the numbers sometimes lie
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I don't think there is any question he will be an ILB (Foreman's spot) for us.
No way do we ask a 238 pound guy that struggles with blockers to take OTs head on.
I think it will be Babin - Greenwood - Sharper - Peek/Wong next season. Wong will be restructured or released after this season- same with Foreman.

I think it is a good signing. It gives us good speed at ILB, which we were desperate for. It also gives us an ILB that can cover. We were abused repeatedly by our ILB coverage. Fangio's scheme requires lots of coverage from the LB spots and Greenwood perfectly fits this. He's young and about to enter the prime of his career.

After I got over the sticker shock of his contract, it really doesn't look all that bad. After the third year I expect we will restructure.
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how good is this guy.. you can't look at numbers that much because the numbers sometimes lie
Supposedly he is a solid solid player. I think 2nd in tackles last year on a GOOD defense. He is another workhorse who will give 110% on every play...but just wont wow you with any sportcenter highlights.

But at his age.... he may just now be reaching his full potential.

Gotta think POSITIVE!
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This is going to be yet another very interesting preseason for the linebackers. I'm betting that Peek just isn't cutting it and so they are bringin in guys to fill that void. Wong is a smart player and yes he can cover very well so I think knowing that he is going to be at the ILB spot will give him more time to adjust. He's been the LOLB, ROLB, and ILB in 3 seasons now.
Moving Wong inside is a vote of confidence in Peek as near as I can make it out. Unless you think we're going to start Cheatwood over him, I don't see how it can be anything but.

I'd be really surprised if Greenwood plays OLB for us, except in cases of injury/special situations. My bet is Greenwood is here to replace Foreman and be ILB for us for the next several years and we'll try to draft a replacement for Sharper.
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... we'll try to draft a replacement for Sharper.
*sigh* ... can't picture the Texans without my favorite player.
BUT.. unless he has an outstanding year this year, he could very well be finding himself in the same position that his brother is facing right now ... end of contract ..
then what? stay for less or go shopping?
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I'm bettin they project him to play inside - he may have speed but that dosn't
mean he has to be an edge rusher - like someone said we want all of our backers to be able to run. We need more help inside. The only solid guy there is Sharper and he's aging too fast. Wong, Peek, and now "The Cheater" are all OLBs. And they will get another OLB in the Draft in the form of a tweener in the 4th or 5 th round. But I'll be glad when they make an official announcement so we get a chance to hear their plans for Greenwood.

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I just don't see how people are saying Sharper is getting too old right now. Last year he wasn't outstanding, but he was far from being bad. he's 1 season removed from a great year, and now all of the sudden he's old man Sharper. You are putting him in the same category as Walker, all of the sudden these guys are bad.
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I think this move is a sign that Dj won't be around in the draft given recent hype... That likely means that Troy Williamson is even more likely a selection than before.

Regardless of whether Greenwood is OLB or ILB, I think we have versatility in combinations and depth. Peek could be a force and with Wong likely gone, we can be pretty sure that Peek will get more exposure this year.

I am willing to bet that the starting crops of LB in week 4 is much different than week 1.
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I agree Ses. Sharper had a down year from being a great LB, i.e. still a very solid LB. People need to learn there is a middle ground between pro-bowl and scrub.
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Let me ask you this then....

If you never heard of the guy and didn't see many Dolphin games then how to your form the basis of your opinion that we were hoodwinked and over-paid him?
Based on "scouting reports" and the fact I was not familiar with him. Even if I haven't seen alot of a particular guys work, I usually at least know of him if he is a good quality starter, and for the money they are paying, I am going to expect to see a good quality starter. Just giving my opinion, just like you and everyone else. Of course, in matters like this, I ALWAYS defer to the experts with the team. I don't pretend to know more than they do.
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I agree Ses. Sharper had a down year from being a great LB, i.e. still a very solid LB. People need to learn there is a middle ground between pro-bowl and scrub.
I just think people are expecting a constant pro-bowler for the money he is getting. I dont think anyone thinks hes a scrub.
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Agreed on the move for Wong. We've all been waiting for the day Wong would move back inside. He's better there anyways. So now you got Peek, Greenwood, Sharper, Babin and Wong all rotating in and out of the linebacker positions. Excellent!
And don't forget Tim Cheatwood.
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I doubt Cheatwood will be subed in as regularly as those guys, he will probably get as much playing time as Charlie Anderson got last season.
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We seem to be building a SPEED set of LBs. Good idea IMO.
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I doubt Cheatwood will be subed in as regularly as those guys, he will probably get as much playing time as Charlie Anderson got last season.
Maybe that's how it will turn out. But I'm thinking it's going to be a knock-down, drag-out, free-for-all come training camp. I don't think anyone's position will be secure on day one.

Cheatwood - 6'-4", 260 lbs - developed some pass-rush skills up there in Canada. He is probably a more complete and well rounded player at this time than Peek.

One advantage Greenwood has over Cheatwood is probably speed. The only number I've managed to find on Cheatwood is an estimated 4.85 his senior year at Ohio State.

Should make for an interesting training camp.
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I checked out the Dolphins forum in the Miami Herald and they aren't shedding
any tears about this guys depature, just surprise at the kind of money he's getting. It's about the same kind of reaction they had last year when we signed their RT Todd Wade with some big bucks too. I suspect he's fairly mediorce - but he's young so still has time to surprise. Afterall, we're not contenders, not yet. That's what it takes to attract the top FAs, they all
want that SB ring. We've still got the Draft - afterall Cass says point blank
that's our main source for building, certainly for finding the real playmakers.
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Greenwood’s addition to the linebacker corps adds speed and quickness to both inside posts and will allow the Texans to utilize him to drop into coverage and snuff the run as well as add an extra blitzer on third down.
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I think Foreman's days as a Texan are numbered. They told Wong to move inside, re-signed Polk and Evans, and are obvioulsy planning on having Greenwood play inside as well. Thats a few too many bodies and the way I see it, Foreman is the odd man out.
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Foreman has zero trade value.
Minor point but technically I think he actually has less than zero trade value. I'm pretty sure the Texans have got to throw in some Gatorade, Toro's four wheeler, and an autographed David Carr bobblehead if they want another team to take him at his current contract.
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