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Old 02-10-2010   #1
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On 790 the press conference is on.

Bob said he like to build in the draft and keep young players signed instead of getting free agents because they are at the end of their career(Antonio Smith is at his peak.)
Don't expect the pocket book to open because if there is no cap he is still going to operate as if there is one.
Compared his team to the Saints and Colts. We have the same amount of draft picks starting as the Colts, the Saints have two more. However, Saints have more signed free agents.
Bob was on the Economic Committee, says there was no correlation between payroll and performance.

On Gary, he extended him because he believes in continuity. Believes that he can build long term success by keeping him instead of changing every 3 years.

Called Schaub a Superbowl QB. Says team can make it to the SB in the future, and finds our team and the way the Saints were built similar.

Bob was monotone, and press dissapoints in asking questions. Matt or Adam asked a decent question about spending money in the future for the offseason.

I guess McNair still has visions of Green, Greenwood, and Wade.
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On 790 the press conference is on.

Bob said he like to build in the draft and keep young players signed instead of getting free agents because they are at the end of their career(Antonio Smith is at his peak.)
Don't expect the pocket book to open because if there is no cap he is still going to operate as if there is one.
Compared his team to the Saints and Colts. We have the same amount of draft picks starting as the Colts, the Saints have two more. However, Saints have more signed free agents.
Bob was on the Economic Committee, says there was no correlation between payroll and performance.

On Gary, he extended him because he believes in continuity. Believes that he can build long term success by keeping him instead of changing every 3 years.

Called Schaub a Superbowl QB. Says team can make it to the SB in the future, and finds our team and the way the Saints were built similar.

Bob was monotone, and press dissapoints in asking questions. Matt or Adam asked a decent question about spending money in the future for the offseason.

I guess McNair still has visions of Green, Greenwood, and Wade.
As a businessman and now an NFL owner,McNair like his coach and GM will not let slip any concept of what his team will do in FA or draft imo. He may say we need to improve the run, pressuring the QB, etc but I do not expect to get any nugget of info on who or what team will do.
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Personally, I wasn't expecting much of anything in FA this year anyways. Unless teams start throwing draft picks around, this FA season's going to stink. Slim-pickins for older players that would be worth a darn.

But we'll still have a few that will say McNair was too cheap to go after the Haynesworth's and Peppers of the League. So we'll have that to look forward to...
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For someone like myself, I think it was beneficial to hear McNair speak about how he may want to spend his money and over all philosphy. From that I gathered he doesn't want a proven free agent at the end of his career but would rather take a chance on the draft. I maybe interpreting too much. He pretty much believes our foundation has been set for the last 8 years, and will add compliment pieces in the draft - gaurds, runningback, cornerback, and safety.

790 is definetly providing critism for the extension and how McNair is content in the progress in the team.
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I know there's quite a few people that think Bob is a tight-wad for not going after big name free agents, but I totally agree with the way they're building this team. It may take a little longer but once we do get there, we will be there year in and year out. In the end it'll be worth the wait.
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so on one hand he says build through the draft and that can win, but then he explains that the Saints are built similar to the Texans except they have spent more on free agents.....

....well, McNair....maybe thats a clue that you are not doing enough in free agency in order to compete at the highest level...but we all know thats not what its about. just keep the beer flowing, the turnstiles turning, and the cash cow will keep churning out money.

I will give him credit for not repeating that BS he did at the previous announcement where he said the organization compared other coaches hired since Kubiak to Kubiak and that he compared well. That was the biggest crock of crap I have ever heard. i guess if you compare him to Marty Morningwheg, Tom Cable, Scott Linehan, and Lane Kiffin he compares favorable....

We all know McNair is just cutting spending in anticipation of a dead season in 2011, which he will be largely responsible due to him helping spearhead the rollbacks on the CBA. McNair is rumored to be one of the hardest of the hardline owners. I am sure that will play well with players, agents, and prospective signees. I guess being a billionaire just isn't enough....more $$ more $$ more $$ more $$.
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so on one hand he says build through the draft and that can win, but then he explains that the Saints are built similar to the Texans except they have spent more on free agents.....
You missed it. The premise remains the same. He noted the Colts and Texans had 14 starters each from the draft, and the Saints had like 12. Meaning a couple extra starters were obtained through free agency for Saints. He mentioned other teams like Oakland,etc... who go out and spend a ton of money and look where they are.

He talked about that when you are able to go out and have successful drafts, your team becomes younger, and the contracts are a bit cheaper... noting a recent committee he was on that gave no correlation between spending large chunks of dough and winning. And tied it all back into the Saints and Colts comparison.

He basically said he is not afraid to spend money when the regime agrees on a player that has not reached his peek yet, or is past it... and that they have no worries about that players motivation. Will there be many of those for us to even get this year?
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Personally, I wasn't expecting much of anything in FA this year anyways. Unless teams start throwing draft picks around, this FA season's going to stink. Slim-pickins for older players that would be worth a darn.

But we'll still have a few that will say McNair was too cheap to go after the Haynesworth's and Peppers of the League. So we'll have that to look forward to...
I wouldn't call him cheap yet. McNair has had some bad FA signings in his day and may be overly cautious when signing one. That is not a fact just an opinion. Look at ahman Green and Benson. But then he will do what is necessary sometimes such as franchising DRob. Hopefully he will resign the players he should such as OD, Pollard, and Ryans and take care of them.
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I wouldn't call him cheap yet. McNair has had some bad FA signings in his day and may be overly cautious when signing one. That is not a fact just an opinion. Look at ahman Green and Benson. But then he will do what is necessary sometimes such as franchising DRob. Hopefully he will resign the players he should such as OD, Pollard, and Ryans and take care of them.
McNair signs off on decisions made by the coaches and GM. He does not make them, like some around here think.
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so on one hand he says build through the draft and that can win, but then he explains that the Saints are built similar to the Texans except they have spent more on free agents.....

We all know McNair is just cutting spending in anticipation of a dead season in 2011, which he will be largely responsible due to him helping spearhead the rollbacks on the CBA. McNair is rumored to be one of the hardest of the hardline owners. I am sure that will play well with players, agents, and prospective signees. I guess being a billionaire just isn't enough....more $$ more $$ more $$ more $$.
We all know that huh? Speak for yourself. Oh and as to your original assertion on the Saints spending more on FA's:

Non-drafted starters:
O - Brees (6 years $60 mil), Goodwin (1 year $2.45 mil). That's the only FAs. They also got Shockey in a trade (5 year $26 mil).
Texans - Schaub trade (6 year $48 mil). Myers trade (4 years $11 mil). Walter trade ($2 mil last year), Leach (4 year $8 mil).

D - McCray (5 year $20 mil), Clancy and Ayodele ($1 mil a piece), Fujita (4 year $12 mil), Vilma trade (5 year $30 mil), Sharper (1 year $1.7 mil)
Texans - Smith (5 years $35.5 mil), Cody ($1 mil), Reeves (5 year $20 mil), Wilson (3 year $11.3 mil), Pollard (650k).

Not seeing the huge disparity on spending.
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McNair signs off on decisions made by the coaches and GM. He does not make them, like some around here think.
Really?? You mean this President and CEO has people in place to run his business while he merely signs off on the decisions that they've made? Say it ain't so! What is corporate Amerika coming to?
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McNair signs off on decisions made by the coaches and GM. He does not make them, like some around here think.
You are right. It seems more and more like McNair won't make the decisions on the team. He isn't an owner that will make a decision on his own, but will listen to others and go with their decision instead of making his own. That may be a good, making sure you are listening to experts instead if making unqualified decisions. However, he does have to consider his reaorces of infromation.

The yardstick of measure, from McNairs own words, was the progress of Capers in 4 years compared to Kubiaks. Thinks that since Kubiak took over from Capers he really doesn't count the first year or so under Kubiak because he didn't have much to work with.

I am listening live so bear with me.

790 just asked him if going againt usual 4 years and no playoffs then the coach is gone is a better decision. Said that Cowher had so many years at Pitt and said he was there so long and didn't win. I think he meant SB.

This interview definitly provides more insight to the owner.
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I see the lips are flapping. Bob Talks and some just make up stuff he said, interesting!
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If someone can provide a link, that would be helpful for me. I would hate for some to go off my interpertation of what McNair without listening to it first hand.
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If someone can provide a link, that would be helpful for me. I would hate for some to go off my interpertation of what McNair without listening to it first hand.
Agreed. Hard to comment one way or the other not having heard the interview.
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I know there's quite a few people that think Bob is a tight-wad for not going after big name free agents, but I totally agree with the way they're building this team. It may take a little longer but once we do get there, we will be there year in and year out. In the end it'll be worth the wait.
How do you figure? You still have to retain your good players and if you waste their careers trying to build a team, by the time your team is ready to compete at a high level, your core players are nearing retirement.

The way you build a team is this:
1. Get a good head coach with a proven track record and a good core staff of assistants.
2. Get a QB.
3. Draft well for a few years.
4. When you feel team is about to 'turn the corner' you 'make a splash' and go out and attract some top veteran FAs to come in and help the team learn how to win.
5. Once you feel your window has closed, you make sure your coaching and QB situation are in check moving forward to the next generation, and you start at #3 again.

We get to Step 4 and fail because McNair is afraid of spending money because he has been burned in the past. Well the reason he got burned is he was going after 2nd and 3rd tier FAs and having to overpay for them to come because we were expansion team. We are no longer an expansion team and we have some measure of respect around the league. We can now plead our case to prospective FAs that we are about to turn the corner and we are just missing some quality veterans to teach us how to win. Problem is, McNair isn't willing to spend the money so we are stuck at #3....and right square in a seeping pool of mediocrity.

At least when your team is bad, you get a good draft pick and some hope for the future. When you are mediocre, you gotta strike gold a few times or you may be doomed to a period of mediocrity or worse. Luckily, the Texans struck gold last year with Cushing in the mid-to-late part of the 1st Round. If you can put a few of those drafts together in a row you can get a nice nucleus and allow yourself a longer period of competitiveness once you are ready to turn the corner. In that respect, I think the Texans have done a good job in assembling some young talent..they just need to sprinkle in some 1st tier, not 2nd or 3rd tier, Free Agent talent and we could get where all of us, homer or hater, want the Texans to go. The Super Bowl.

if New Orleans can do it, we can too...we just have to make the tough decisions in order to do so.

in my opinion, one of those decisions is to bring in a top proven head coach (step#1). Its obvious Billionaire Bob feels differently

I think the Kubiak re-signing has as much to do with no football in 2011 than it does with the 2010 season. He doesn't want to pay a Cowher $10million to not coach in 2011...and I respect and understand that...to a point. What I don't respect is the spin job regarding his re-signing and acting like it was about Kubiak's performance and how he compared to other coaches.
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Agreed. Hard to comment one way or the other not having heard the interview.
Since when does a lack of facts stop us from expressing our views?
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You are right. It seems more and more like McNair won't make the decisions on the team. He isn't an owner that will make a decision on his own, but will listen to others and go with their decision instead of making his own. That may be a good, making sure you are listening to experts instead if making unqualified decisions. However, he does have to consider his reaorces of infromation.

The yardstick of measure, from McNairs own words, was the progress of Capers in 4 years compared to Kubiaks. Thinks that since Kubiak took over from Capers he really doesn't count the first year or so under Kubiak because he didn't have much to work with.

I am listening live so bear with me.

790 just asked him if going againt usual 4 years and no playoffs then the coach is gone is a better decision. Said that Cowher had so many years at Pitt and said he was there so long and didn't win. I think he meant SB.

This interview definitly provides more insight to the owner.
That is a great argument if you are waiting on a guy to break through the SB wall but Cowher(I posted his seasons here last week) was winning big his first 6 seasons. He had one 9-7 but was above that the other 5. Alot different territory. It isn't like they weren't competing and in the playoffs..and SB.

I will say, I respect the man for having a plan in his head that looks good on paper and being a little cerebral about money or how to build. So that is a plus. But on the other hand I think the NFL landscape moves so quick these days that it is tough to have that gameplan realistically work unless you are spot on in your player pickups and development and your coach is putting people in the right spots. At some point you have to deviate and maybe think outside that window.
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