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Old 01-19-2010   #1
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Default East vs West Shrine Game

This Saturday on ESPN2 @ 3:00P EST

First practice was Monday, here are a few notes from ESPN Insider:

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Miami RB Javarris James made one of the better runs of the day. He started to the right and drew the linebackers up by pressing the line of scrimmage before cutting back to the left. He also did a nice job of releasing out of the backfield, squaring up to the quarterback over the middle and snatching the ball out of the air.
Sounds like a one cut and go type of guy who shows good receiving out of the backfield.

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Wisconsin's O'Brien Schofield is expected to move from end to linebacker in the NFL and he started making the transition this week in practice. Quickness and straight-line speed do not appear to be an issue. He can close quickly in the short area and he ran with TE Andrew Quarless on one play.
Very, very raw player but thing that caught my eye was that he ran with a TE. If he can rush the passer on passing downs, but also drop into coverage it may be something we can use, but he seems like a Barwin as of now.

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One of the most underrated receivers in attendance is Michigan State WR Blair White. While he isn't the fastest receiver on the field, he makes up for it with sudden route running. White also did a nice job of working back to the quarterback and catching the ball away from his frame.
If Walter leaves and we don't take anyone in the earlier rounds he may be a good pick in the later rounds. I watched him in tha Alamo Bowl and he is a good solid hard working WR. Not going to make any huge plays, but will do all the little things.

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Clemson CB Chris Chancellor opened a few eyes on Monday. He appeared smooth in his backpedal and flashed the ability to break on routes. In addition, he displayed adequate ball-skills throughout the afternoon. Chancellor did a good job of sticking with Buffalo WR Naaman Roosevelt on a go route before turning, locating, and high pointing an underthrown ball for an interception during the 7-on-7 portion of practice. He also appeared comfortable and smooth fielding punts during the special teams period.
Position of need, seems to have good technique, didn't watch very many Clemson games this year, but something to watch on Saturday. Safety K Chancellor did not have a good day Monday, FYI.

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Pittsburgh TE Nate Byham isn't exploding out of his breaks, but he's making crisp cuts and getting his head snapped around in time to locate the ball. He's also extending his arms and snatching the ball out of the air instead of allowing it to get to his frame. It comes as no surprise as he shows all the necessary skills to develop into a productive short-to-intermediate receiver when you watch him on film.
Quinn was injured a lot and he wasn't even playing and OD is coming off of his injury, so we may be looking for TE at some point in the draft.

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Emmanuel Sanders (SMU) created the biggest buzz. He is explosive off the line and tempos his routes well. He consistently separated from coverage during 7-on-7 and team periods. In addition, he displayed strong hands catching the ball away from his frame. Sanders is a bit undersized but he has the burst and ball skills to develop into an effective slot receiver.
Another WR depending on what happens with Walter, now that I think about it, is it as big of a possibility as I think it is for Walter to leave? I may have misread something earlier.

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CBs Devin Ross (Arizona) and Brian Jackson (Oklahoma) both had good first days. Ross is well-built, smooth changing directions and closes quickly. His quickness showed up during 7-on-7 and team periods, where he did a nice job of anticipating routes and limiting separation. There is a lot to like about Jackson, too. He runs well for his size (6-2, 205 pounds) and does a nice job of playing the ball.
Two CBs to keep your eyes on for the West team. Brian Jackson seems to have good size.

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BYU TE Dennis Pitta wasted little time in showing why he has the potential to quickly develop into a productive receiver at the NFL level. He used his hands to get a clean release off the line, showed above-average burst, caught the ball in stride and looked smooth turning upfield after the catch during the team period.
Another TE to keep an eye on that would add another weapon for Schaub, but not sure how his blocking is, something to look for.

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...North Dakota State RB Pat Paschall. The FCS prospect didn't look like a small fish in a big pond. He ran downhill and showed great burst through the hole. Look for his draft stock to rise if he continues to run hard once the pads go on and shows teams he can contribute as a receiver.
A small school RB prospect that may be the bruising back we need to compliment Slaton.

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Kansas WR Kerry Meier looks every bit of his 220 pounds and is providing the West quarterbacks with a big strike zone. Meier's experience as a former quarterback was evident throughout the practice and he did a nice job of finding seams in zone looks in particular. He lacks elite speed and explosiveness, but he has the makings of an adequate possession receiver.
Another WR that is intriguing because of his size and his ex-QB status that may allow for a few big trick plays to keep defenses off-balance. I liked him in college at Kansas.

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Stanford OT Chris Marinelli is not a great athlete but he is technically sound and gets the most out of his physical tools. He takes very good angles as a run blocker and does a good job of setting his hands in pass protection. Marinelli could emerge as a pleasant surprise for a team that takes a chance on him in the later rounds.
Smart OT prospect, not sure if he could move to OG, but we still need help on the OL and if he is there late he may be worth a look.

So that's the just of what went on Monday aside from the QBs who I don't see as a need right now.

I will post the notes from Tuesday's practice when it's available.

What do you think so far?
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Keep in mind when scouting the RB's: Look at their ability to pass block. I don't think Kubiak is going to draft a RB with the mindset this guy will get significant playing time if he can't help out in pass protection.
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Keep in mind when scouting the RB's: Look at their ability to pass block. I don't think Kubiak is going to draft a RB with the mindset this guy will get significant playing time if he can't help out in pass protection.
They are supposed to be doing 1v1 drills today in pads LBs vs RBs so that should be interesting.

More on James coming out today, also worth noting East Team will be running ZBS.

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It's only been less than two practices, but Miami RB Javarris James is standing out so far. He's showing good patience as a runner. They're using a zone-blocking scheme here and he's waiting for the hole to develop and when it does, he shows the ability to plant quickly drive up the field. That will allow him to be a contributor in a zone-blocking scheme like, say, the Texans, Eagles, Vikings, etc., run. He's also catching the ball well and seems like the crafty veteran of this group and doing the right things. It's not a deep running back class this year and while James was never an elite player -- he shared carried and had durability issues as well -- he'll wind up going in the fourth or fifth round and has a chance to stick.
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Anyone else watching this right now? They showed Kubes a few minutes ago in the stands. I like Javarris James and Pat Paschall so far
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I'm watching. Pretty boring game-haha.

I'm especially interested in Skelton the QB from Fordam. He has only played a couple series.

Big guy 6'5 250lbs rocket arm. I haven't ever seen him play. The kid did show some touch on long balls and sure does have a rocket arm. The part about him I did not like to here was the announcers questioning his work ethic and desire. Looks to have poor footwork.

Thought this kid might be one of those late round prospects. I bet he still gets drafted-just late 5th or 6th round.

Pitta the TE from BYU is a good prospect--good hands.
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I'm watching. Pretty boring game-haha.

I'm especially interested in Skelton the QB from Fordam. He has only played a couple series.

Big guy 6'5 250lbs rocket arm. I haven't ever seen him play. The kid did show some touch on long balls and sure does have a rocket arm. The part about him I did not like to here was the announcers questioning his work ethic and desire. Looks to have poor footwork.

Thought this kid might be one of those late round prospects. I bet he still gets drafted-just late 5th or 6th round.

Pitta the TE from BYU is a good prospect--good hands.
Pitta looks like a beast out there and he was been a good TE all year long. You are right about Skelton and I actually want to see more of the QB from EWU.
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This game is finally starting to be entertaining--late 4th quarter.

Kafka QB from Nothwestern looking pretty good. Do not know much about him either.

Max Hall QB from BYU not too bad either. Like those guys from BYU--always seem to be good character and hard working.
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Pitta looks like a beast out there and he was been a good TE all year long. You are right about Skelton and I actually want to see more of the QB from EWU.
I know TE isnt a need but if Pitta or the kid from Bama is available in the 5th round I wouldnt hesitate to take either of them.
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I know TE isnt a need but if Pitta or the kid from Bama is available in the 5th round I wouldnt hesitate to take either of them.
Colin Peek is the TE from Bama. I actually had him in 5th round on a mock I did for the Texans a week or so ago.

I actually think TE will be more valuable in the years to come and will be better utilized due to size than they are now. Just matchup trouble for DB's.
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WOW--this turned out to be entertaining. Great 2 min drive from Kafka-scoring TD with 6 seconds left pass to Quarles, another good TE prospect.
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Pitta reminds me of Owen, but I'll bet the Colts pick him, would fit right in. last year they got Collie, same school BYU, in 4th.
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I see a team like the Browns/Ravens/Bengals going for this guy
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Colin Peek is the TE from Bama. I actually had him in 5th round on a mock I did for the Texans a week or so ago.

I actually think TE will be more valuable in the years to come and will be better utilized due to size than they are now. Just matchup trouble for DB's.
Yeh I just went blank on the name. I have him in one of my mocks also.

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Pitta reminds me of Owen, but I'll bet the Colts pick him, would fit right in. last year they got Collie, same school BYU, in 4th.
I have been saying that for awhile now. He just reeks of a Colts pick for some reason.
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Not that we're desperate for a WR, but Emmanuel Sanders from SMU would be a great pick in the later rounds. He reminds me of the NY Giants Steve Smith; smaller receiver but knows how to get open and has reliable hands. If he falls like James Casey, I hope we don't pass him up.
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Can Sanders return punts?
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Can Sanders return punts?
Yes. Sanders averaged over 13 yards/return with a TD this season.
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I'll keep hyping Andre Dixon even though I doubt the Texans wait that long to draft a RB. He's a pretty big guy with some room to add on more muscle, is more than willing to lower the shoulder, and is a very good pass blocking RB. If the team doesn't pick someone up early and he's around in the 6th, I'd love for them to take him. Not sure if he's worth a higher pick than that though.
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cb Jamar Wall(Texas Tech) looked great...6 tackles, 3 passes defended. Man I hope the Texans draft him in the 3rd round.
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cb Jamar Wall(Texas Tech) looked great...6 tackles, 3 passes defended. Man I hope the Texans draft him in the 3rd round.
He can lay the wood too, but I think he will go lower than 3rd, he still has some issues to address.

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Not a big fan of Wall as a CB in the NFL. He just lacks the necessary coverage skills.
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