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Old 01-15-2010   #1
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Just noticed this small stat over the last two years.

If you look at the last two seasons, that's pretty much been the case. Going 0-3 (2008) and 1-2 (2009) in September and then going 1-3 each year in November.

In October and December we have a pretty good record over the past two seasons. 3-1 both seasons in Oct, and 4-1 (08) and 4-1 (including 1 Jan game in 2009).

What that comes out to is consistency. Seems like we only start working when our backs are against the wall or the pressure is off of us because we don't start the season real well or come out of the bye looking strong (understanding the bye in 08 kind of screwed with us due to Ike).

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Just noticed this small stat over the last two years.

If you look at the last two seasons, that's pretty much been the case. Going 0-3 (2008) and 1-2 (2009) in September and then going 1-3 each year in November.

In October and December we have a pretty good record over the past two seasons. 3-1 both seasons in Oct, and 4-1 (08) and 4-1 (including 1 Jan game in 2009).

What that comes out to is consistency. Seems like we only start working when our backs are against the wall or the pressure is off of us because we don't start the season real well or come out of the bye looking strong (understanding the bye in 08 kind of screwed with us due to Ike).

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The way I see it, there's always a lot of "experimenting" early in the season, a lot of learning, and then some gelling at the end of the season.

This year, defensively I saw lots of strange defensive fronts & experimental personnel packages early in the season. Then later when we figured out what we wanted to do, what worked & who our best were, we were pretty consistent doing what we wanted to do & the personnel used in certain situations.

My biggest gripe, is that we haven't had a history of carrying anything over from the previous season. We think we got something figured out, and we change everything to start the season.

This year I thought we were going to see some of that, but we went more pure ZBS, Slaton got fumblitus, & 2 of our starting 5 were put on IR early.

I hope Kubiak knows what he wants to do on both sides of the ball next season, and we can build on what we've accomplished in '09.
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My biggest gripe, is that we haven't had a history of carrying anything over from the previous season. We think we got something figured out, and we change everything to start the season.
I didn't want to say this.

BUT.

In Kubes' first year, our defense was ABYSMAL the first 3 games of the season and then the last 13 games, we played pretty damned good. Our numbers, if we had put them up for the entire season, would have put us in the top 10 in defense. I expected us to come out the next year and play like a top 10 defense... and it did not happen.

That's what I'm afraid of for next year. That we won't have any carryover of the defense we were playing by the end of this season. We need to have that defense for 16 games, not 13.
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Thumbs down More Wins in the South..........

Getting off to a good start still eluded this team....but also something else.....

AFC SOUTH OPPONENT GAMES.....that is what kills us too......we have to do better in the South or we will never get into the playoffs........

Losing twice to Jacksonville and Indianapolis hurt.... 1-5 is not good........for the South.......
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Just noticed this small stat over the last two years.

If you look at the last two seasons, that's pretty much been the case. Going 0-3 (2008) and 1-2 (2009) in September and then going 1-3 each year in November.

In October and December we have a pretty good record over the past two seasons. 3-1 both seasons in Oct, and 4-1 (08) and 4-1 (including 1 Jan game in 2009).

What that comes out to is consistency. Seems like we only start working when our backs are against the wall or the pressure is off of us because we don't start the season real well or come out of the bye looking strong (understanding the bye in 08 kind of screwed with us due to Ike).

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Right there. We typically screw the pooch early and mid-season then on the back end with our back against the wall and got to save the coaching staff.

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I didn't want to say this.

BUT.

In Kubes' first year, our defense was ABYSMAL the first 3 games of the season and then the last 13 games, we played pretty damned good. Our numbers, if we had put them up for the entire season, would have put us in the top 10 in defense. I expected us to come out the next year and play like a top 10 defense... and it did not happen.

That's what I'm afraid of for next year. That we won't have any carryover of the defense we were playing by the end of this season. We need to have that defense for 16 games, not 13.
Good post. Though I might eat my words for this, I think next year will see defensive carry over because of Brian Cushing's intensity and Bush actually having a scheme to work within.

Truth is if this team wants to compete next year with the schedule they have looming, they absolutely HAVE to start good on both sides of the ball.
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What if Schaub gets hurt, and misses time in 2010?

That's going to throw EVERYTHING out the window if the Texans do not find someone who can carry the water with some sort of TRUE talent as a QB.

We're really skating on thin ice, folks.

1. A finesse oline who cannot blow other dlines off the snap on short yardage situations. A center who does not inspire confidence in most fans around here.

2. Mystery at the RB position. M-Y-S-T-E-R-Y.

3. Questionable on the return AND effectiveness of Owen Daniels, a real game-changer for us and a very BIG relief-valve for Schaub when the blitz is on. What if he's a shell of his former self on the field?

4. Only one really good QB, with some lunchmeat sitting on the bench at 2nd and 3rd string.

5. Still no BIG-TIME production from our dline, especially Mario Williams who should be a force to reckon with by this point in time. A project guy named Connor Barwin. A guy named Amobi whom we still can't pick out of the lineup and say "WOW! Did you see what he just did to his man across from him! Holy Cow!" And a free-agent named Antonio Smith who also is in and out of the picture and not really tearing things up the way we had hoped.

6. Kubiak in his final year of contract.

7. Andre Johnson sitting there wondering if he'll ever play in a simple 1st-round playoff game. Forget about Super Bowl for the moment. Will he get to play in a playoff game at all? If we miss it again in 2010, does he begin having thoughts of leaving Houston?

8. No threat to opposing defenses if Andre Johnson gets hurt and misses time. The WR squad looks pretty pedestrian after AJ is subtracted from the roster.

There's 8 scenarios that are very big problems for this team.

Throw in a strong schedule of opponents in 2010, and I think we might need to sit here and savor 9-7 for all its worth right now.

They better hit a lot of home-runs in the draft, and turn the tide in free agency signings somehow.
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There's 8 scenarios that are very big problems for this team.
But there's not a team in the league that you can't make a list like this for. Especially if you're a fan and know your teams weaknesses.
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These guys need to realize that the road to the playoffs begin with the first game of the season, and involves each and every game. The hell with the division wins and losses, each game counts. If we could have beat the Jets this season in the first game, we would have been in the playoffs by beating the Patriots on the last day.
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These guys need to realize that the road to the playoffs begin with the first game of the season, and involves each and every game. The hell with the division wins and losses, each game counts. If we could have beat the Jets this season in the first game, we would have been in the playoffs by beating the Patriots on the last day.
If we had beat the Jets we could have lost to the Patriots and still gotten into the playoffs. Win any of the seven losses and we would have been in as well.
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If we had beat the Jets we could have lost to the Patriots and still gotten into the playoffs. Win any of the seven losses and we would have been in as well.
And here I was beginning to feel better. Thanks, man, appreciate the friendly reminder.
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If we had beat the Jets we could have lost to the Patriots and still gotten into the playoffs. Win any of the seven losses and we would have been in as well.
True, whether it's the Jets, Colts, Jags, or Tacks, it makes no difference. I'm just not taking away any of our wins. The team needs to show a sense of urgency from week #1 on.
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And here I was beginning to feel better. Thanks, man, appreciate the friendly reminder.
Yeah, doesn't that strike a nerve! One more win!
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Getting off to a good start still eluded this team....but also something else.....

AFC SOUTH OPPONENT GAMES.....that is what kills us too......we have to do better in the South or we will never get into the playoffs........

Losing twice to Jacksonville and Indianapolis hurt.... 1-5 is not good........for the South.......
I don't want to try and seem like I am using this as an excuse, but we had 4 Divisional games in a row. The most our opponents had in a row was 2. That was 4 weeks of really hard fought emotional games where the team didn't have a chance to catch thier breath. Had they won that first Colts game though I think it would have been atleast a 3-1 4 game stretch instead of 0-4.
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What if Schaub gets hurt, and misses time in 2010?

That's going to throw EVERYTHING out the window if the Texans do not find someone who can carry the water with some sort of TRUE talent as a QB.
How is this no different for majority of the league? You think the Colts will carry one with Painter at QB?
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I don't want to try and seem like I am using this as an excuse, but we had 4 Divisional games in a row. The most our opponents had in a row was 2. That was 4 weeks of really hard fought emotional games where the team didn't have a chance to catch thier breath.
Well, except for the bye week.*

*which they spent deciding Chris Brown was their best option at running back.
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Well, except for the bye week.
True there was a a bye week but I mentioned before the season began that those four games were a remarkable stretch. I have never seen any team have four division games in a row before. The year before was another oddity in scheduling with the Texans being the first team in NFL history to start their season with four games against playoff teams.
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What if Schaub gets hurt, and misses time in 2010?
A laundry list of things that could go wrong (And almost all of those things could happen to any team and it would screw them) doesn't really point to anything though. What if Peyton blows out a knee? What if Moss gets injured and Welker is still rehabbing his knee? What if Chris Johnson gets arrested for murder? What if Phillip Rivers got in a ********* contest, lost, and was forced to commit seppuku? What if Cedric Benson went back to being a lazy alcoholic? What if Demarcus Ware developed a nasty case of staph and was forced to sit? What if "Big" Ben penetrates another hotel worker?

The only teams you could really not make a list like that about would be the teams who are already terrible, mostly because those things are already happening to them (Jamarcus Russell is your starting QB, your left tackle is Jeff Backus, Steve Jackson is your only offensive threat, Al Davis is your owner, etc etc)
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True there was a a bye week but I mentioned before the season began that those four games were a remarkable stretch. I have never seen any team have four division games in a row before. The year before was another oddity in scheduling with the Texans being the first team in NFL history to start their season with four games against playoff teams.
I remember you pointing out that stretch this pre-season. Didn't they have an unusually long stretch of road games last year (2008)?
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I remember you pointing out that stretch this pre-season. Didn't they have an unusually long stretch of road games last year (2008)?
That's been kind of recurring. 2007 with a stretch of 7 games with 5 on the road then start 3 on the road for 2008 all against playoff teams than another stretch with 3 of 4 on the road. Now that means they had some home stretches too.
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That's what I'm afraid of for next year. That we won't have any carryover of the defense we were playing by the end of this season. We need to have that defense for 16 games, not 13.
The biggest difference I'm seeing, is back then, we didn't have an idea, or anything we could call a "scheme". I'm hoping next year, we try to build on the identity we've built.


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That's why we need a workhorse running back who can share that load.

& to another point you made, we need Jacoby to step it up all year long. If he can become a legit playmaker opposite Andre, become our Reggie Wayne... we'll be okay if Andre misses a game or two.

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These guys need to realize that the road to the playoffs begin with the first game of the season, and involves each and every game.
It's amazing to me that some people think they understand the importance of every game more than the people who build their lives around each one.
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