Shout out to Saints coach Sean Payton

[houstonspartan]

I just did some reading about New Orleans' coach, Sean Payton. I'd totally forgotten that he took over a really bad team in 2006, and had to re-build.

Then, on top of that, he came in right after Katrina. This was when the city was still a total disaster, and people didn't even know if the city was going to survive. The Superdome had been condemed, and the team had to play games in different cities.

I also remember that at the time, Tom Benson, the Saints owner, was considering moving or selling the team. There was a lot of rumors that Benson was cheap, and just wanted out of the NFL, especially considering that it was questionable whether New Orleans would survive. But, he hung in there, and they made major repairs to the dome, even though it took a while.

So, in four years, Sean Payton has:

a) re-built the team from scratch
b) dealt with the distraction of the aftermath of a hurricane
c) dealt with transitioning into a head coach
d) dealt with having to play games in different cities.
e) dealt with a poor fanbase that really didn't have a lot of money to go to games.

He has dealt with all of this, and now has an undefeated football team. That plays in a packed stadium every single week. In a broke-ass city. In FOUR YEARS.

Damn, that's impressive.

[Grams]

Payton did not have to playthe regular season in other cities only their preseason games.

The Superdome was re-opened in 2006.

Getting Drew Brees helped him a great deal, but yes he has done a good job with the Saints.

[TheIronDuke]

Big whoop, our HC took over our crappy team and turned it into an 8-8 powerhouse year after year.

[kastofsna]

Originally Posted by TheIronDuke

Big whoop, our HC took over our crappy team and turned it into an 8-8 powerhouse year after year.

hey, you went from being crappy all the time to just being crappy in important games, that's a hell of a distinction

[Texan4Ever]

Well, I'll give Payton some props but he was a big risk taker IMO. He took Drew Brees (who as I recall was injured with a bad shoulder) and brought him to NO and gave him a huge contract...which turned out to be a good deal afterall.

It also helps to be in the NFC South as oppossed to the AFC South!

[infantrycak]

Originally Posted by houstonspartan

I just did some reading about New Orleans' coach, Sean Payton. I'd totally forgotten that he took over a really bad team in 2006, and had to re-build.

No he didn't. The 2004 Saints missed the playoffs on a tiebreaker. 2005 was Katrina plus losing Deuce. He got a good team and added a QB due to the stupidity of San Diego.

[GP]

Originally Posted by infantrycak

No he didn't. The 2004 Saints missed the playoffs on a tiebreaker. 2005 was Katrina plus losing Deuce. He got a good team and added a QB due to the stupidity of San Diego.

And due to the stupidity of Bob McNair. Did we even make a play for Drew Brees? Oh, I"m sure we did. But he had that crosswalk violation from 1985 that was still on his record, I suppose.

But hey, I forgot: He has really been on the ball when it comes to rebulding this team.

Go Saints!

[infantrycak]

Originally Posted by GP

And due to the stupidity of Bob McNair. Did we even make a play for Drew Brees? Oh, I"m sure we did. But he had that crosswalk violation from 1985 that was still on his record, I suppose.

But hey, I forgot: He has really been on the ball when it comes to rebulding this team.

Go Saints!

Nice. How about we play with the facts instead? Brees had surgery on his throwing shoulder that off-season. That's why many teams didn't consider him and Miami went with Culpepper over Brees.

[houstonspartan]

Originally Posted by Grams

Payton did not have to playthe regular season in other cities only their preseason games.

The Superdome was re-opened in 2006.

Getting Drew Brees helped him a great deal, but yes he has done a good job with the Saints.

Uh, I believe the Superdome was re-opened in late summer 2006, which still would have put their team in Limbo, and still would have made that a huge distraction for the team.

My point is, there are still fans using Hurricane Ike as a reason to excuse Kubiak.

[WWJD]

Payton has done a fine job.

[GuerillaBlack]

How did the Cowboys let Payton go?

[houstonspartan]

Originally Posted by Texan4Ever

Well, I'll give Payton some props but he was a big risk taker IMO. He took Drew Brees (who as I recall was injured with a bad shoulder) and brought him to NO and gave him a huge contract...which turned out to be a good deal afterall.

It also helps to be in the NFC South as oppossed to the AFC South!

A little tired of the AFC South is a tough division excuse. There's no reason why after four years we can't beat Jax and Tenn on a regular basis and at least challenge Indy.

[houstonspartan]

Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

How did the Cowboys let Payton go?

Well, he was an assistant head coach/coordinator, and he wanted to be a head coach. NO offered the job and he accepted.

[infantrycak]

Originally Posted by houstonspartan

My point is, there are still fans using Hurricane Ike as a reason to excuse Kubiak.

Excuse for what, then or now? I have seen nobody saying anything about this year's Texans and Ike. Last year's Texans were affected by Ike and that will never change.

Originally Posted by houstonspartan

A little tired of the AFC South is a tough division excuse. There's no reason why after four years we can't beat Jax and Tenn on a regular basis and at least challenge Indy.

We did beat TN and we did challenge Indy in both games. Yes we whiffed against the Jags.

[LonerATO]

Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

How did the Cowboys let Payton go?

Bill Parcells was pissed that he left his staff

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by infantrycak

No he didn't. The 2004 Saints missed the playoffs on a tiebreaker. 2005 was Katrina plus losing Deuce. He got a good team and added an EXCELLENT QB due to the stupidity of San Diego.

Thank you sir. You saved me some keystrokes. The 2005 team Payton inherited was not nearly as bad off as the one we had in 2005.

Oh, and I made a slight edit to your post.

[houstonspartan]

Originally Posted by infantrycak

Excuse for what, then or now? I have seen nobody saying anything about this year's Texans and Ike. Last year's Texans were affected by Ike and that will never change.



We did beat TN and we did challenge Indy in both games. Yes we whiffed against the Jags.

I meant beat them with some consistency so we're not always in last place in the division. I don't think that's too much to ask after four years.

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by GP

And due to the stupidity of Bob McNair. Did we even make a play for Drew Brees? Oh, I"m sure we did. But he had that crosswalk violation from 1985 that was still on his record, I suppose.

But hey, I forgot: He has really been on the ball when it comes to rebulding this team.

Go Saints!

Your anger is starting to make you lie.
That's not like you.
I-Cak has the real back story. Also, there's that little problem that - thanks to McNair's infatuation - we'd already re-upped HWWNBN in Feb of '06.

[GP]

Originally Posted by ObsiWan

Your anger is starting to make you lie.
That's not like you.
I-Cak has the real back story. Also, there's that little problem that - thanks to McNair's infatuation - we'd already re-upped HWWNBN in Feb of '06.

Yes, my anger is making me reach. I agree.

I'm sick and tired of watching this team make half-hearted moves for players that are speculative, at best.

My only joy is watching Brian Cushing play football. Yet I wonder how long it will take before he succumbs to the disease of mediocrity. The odds are not in his favor, IMO.

I'm severely pissed at this team on so many levels.

[DiehardChris]

Originally Posted by GP

And due to the stupidity of Bob McNair. Did we even make a play for Drew Brees? Oh, I"m sure we did. But he had that crosswalk violation from 1985 that was still on his record, I suppose.

But hey, I forgot: He has really been on the ball when it comes to rebulding this team.

Go Saints!

Matt Schaub has been arrested.