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Old 12-16-2009   #1
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McNair was a leader in pushing for an uncapped year next season and I anticipate him opening his check book in free agency. What about the draft? If cap is not an issue, would it be a good deal to trade to get more picks this next draft? I have us selecting in the #15 spot which should get us another solid player. How about buying another top 12 or so pick with trade using some of our picks this year and first and second rounds the following year? If Kubes is back, there will be a lot of pressure on him to go after game changers.
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This franchise will NEVER explore the avenues of "opening up the checkbook" as has been claimed for the past 7 years.

I've been hearing that McNair will open up his wallet every off-season, especially after we got rid of the Casserly-era dead money.

Posters galore were on here jumping for joy and imagining all sorts of HUGE deals we would pull off. The belief that mcNair will open his wallet ranks up there with Bigfoot sightings, IMO. Sounds cool, but it's not happening.

Additionally, this franchise will NEVER move up in the draft. That's also not the sort of operation McNair runs. You either stay where you are at, or you move DOWN if there's any moving to be done.

I see we're already starting the Keep Hope Alive tour around here.
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This franchise will NEVER explore the avenues of "opening up the checkbook" as has been claimed for the past 7 years.

I've been hearing that McNair will open up his wallet every off-season, especially after we got rid of the Casserly-era dead money.

Posters galore were on here jumping for joy and imagining all sorts of HUGE deals we would pull off. The belief that mcNair will open his wallet ranks up there with Bigfoot sightings, IMO. Sounds cool, but it's not happening.

Additionally, this franchise will NEVER move up in the draft. That's also not the sort of operation McNair runs. You either stay where you are at, or you move DOWN if there's any moving to be done.

I see we're already starting the Keep Hope Alive tour around here.
Well said. Like I've said before, there's no evidence that McNair will spend the money that it's gonna take to put a winner on the field.

History shows that he'd rather protect a profit.
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So they can go spend 9 mil on a 3rd string QB, or overpay for another DE?

(That is also why you wont see a new coach in. McNair reportedly isnt willing to spend the money for a new coach. Say 10 mil, which is reportedly what a guy like Cowher wants. I assume guys like Shanahan,etc arent far behind)
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Reported by people with no inside knowledge but like to speculate anyway.
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You're right, I have no inside knowledge but has been said many times by McClain, Justice, and Zierlein - guys who do have inside knowledge.

I'll look to see if I can provide any links/stories. Until then, dont believe me.


Some might be disappointed that Cowher doesnt come here, and many will be disappointed that Kubiak may be back after all(even if they do go 7-9,8-8)

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In May of 2008 all 32 owners voted to have an uncapped year. McNair had voice owner dissatisfaction with rookie contracts (getting high dollar with no NFL experience). Various sport talking head had interviewed McNair saying he was a supporter of opting out of CBA leading to an uncapped year.
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I'm still baffled by how people think spending big free agent dollars is a good thing.

The Jets spent a mint a couple of years ago - they've been around .500. The Redskins go apeshit every offseason in free agency, and they're one of the worst teams in the league. So many people wanted the Texans to go after Albert Haynesworth - and myself and many others KNEW that fat turd wasn't worth even half of what they paid for him. That's not hindsight, either.

Last year the Texans brought in a high-priced free agent - Antonio Smith - and after a slow start, he's been very, very good.
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This franchise will NEVER explore the avenues of "opening up the checkbook" as has been claimed for the past 7 years.

I've been hearing that McNair will open up his wallet every off-season, especially after we got rid of the Casserly-era dead money.

Posters galore were on here jumping for joy and imagining all sorts of HUGE deals we would pull off. The belief that mcNair will open his wallet ranks up there with Bigfoot sightings, IMO. Sounds cool, but it's not happening.

Additionally, this franchise will NEVER move up in the draft. That's also not the sort of operation McNair runs. You either stay where you are at, or you move DOWN if there's any moving to be done.

I see we're already starting the Keep Hope Alive tour around here.
I think McNair has open the check book with guys like Boselli, David Carr's extension, Antonio Smith, Kris Brown, Orslovski, Reeves and Schaub.
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You're right, I have no inside knowledge but has been said many times by McClain, Justice, and Zierlein - guys who do have inside knowledge.

I'll look to see if I can provide any links/stories. Until then, dont believe me.


Some might be disappointed that Cowher doesnt come here, and many will be disappointed that Kubiak may be back after all(even if they do go 7-9,8-8)
There's a difference between "Cowher won't be coming here" and a blanket statement like "McNair isnt willing to spend the money for a new coach"
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In May of 2008 all 32 owners voted to have an uncapped year. McNair had voice owner dissatisfaction with rookie contracts (getting high dollar with no NFL experience). Various sport talking head had interviewed McNair saying he was a supporter of opting out of CBA leading to an uncapped year.
Guess I missed that. I still don't see how that makes him a "leader" on the issue, though.
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I'm still baffled by how people think spending big free agent dollars is a good thing.

The Jets spent a mint a couple of years ago - they've been around .500. The Redskins go apeshit every offseason in free agency, and they're one of the worst teams in the league. So many people wanted the Texans to go after Albert Haynesworth - and myself and many others KNEW that fat turd wasn't worth even half of what they paid for him. That's not hindsight, either.

Last year the Texans brought in a high-priced free agent - Antonio Smith - and after a slow start, he's been very, very good.
Supports my point that McNair will spend money even if it has not bee very effective. We hear that the way to build a team is throguh the draft. If a cap is not involved why not get another high first and go get two impacy players this year?
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Guess I missed that. I still don't see how that makes him a "leader" on the issue, though.
Would it improve your day if I retracted "leader"? The issue is about going after more picks without the cost effecting the bottom line as it would in a normal year.
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There's a difference between "Cowher won't be coming here" and a blanket statement like "McNair isnt willing to spend the money for a new coach"
Edited last post - but you think McNair is going to eat ~10 mil for Kubiak and Smith and then go pay Cowher 10 mil to be GM/HC?
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Would it improve your day if I retracted "leader"? The issue is about going after more picks without the cost effecting the bottom line as it would in a normal year.
I actually agree that McNair will/should open up his checkbook should the CBA fail. He's a "have" in the league.

People just tend to take baseless comments on here and run with them as if they're fact. So, I wanted to nip that in the bud.
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Edited last post - but you think McNair is going to eat ~10 mil for Kubiak and Smith and then go pay Cowher 10 mil to be GM/HC?
No, I don't think McNair is going to fire Kubiak.

I also don't think that decision has anything to do with money, which was the whole basis for your argument.
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Here we go with the McNair's cheap argument again.

I'll respectfully pass this time around.
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No, I don't think McNair is going to fire Kubiak.

I also don't think that decision has anything to do with money, which was the whole basis for your argument.
Yes, I still think it is money. He isnt going to pay 10 mil for a coach, then fire Gary and have to eat whatever remains on his contract(and eat possibly Rick Smith's money too) when he feels comfortable with Gary.

But it is what it is. You have your opinion, I have mine.
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