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Old 12-08-2009   #1
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Default Andre Johnson: "We Just Run What They Call"

If you guys remember, this was the line that got Richard Smith canned when
his defensive players started using it. This is the way players express their
loss of confidence in their playcallers. If Kubiak ain't careful, he's gone.

My soap will remain up until a decision is made on him. His players verbally
express support for him, but on the field, they keep screwing up in crucial
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Default Re: Andre Johnson: "We Just Run What They Call"

I honestly don't know why the hell Schaub isn't allowed to call audibles at the line. QBs are supposed to be a extension of their coach (especially if that coach is offensive minded) and alot of high caliber veteran QBs are given the freedom to call audibles every once in awhile. Schaub seems like a really smart guy and at this point he's a experienced veteran....I really don't understand why the man is never allowed to audible out of a play.

David freaking Carr was even allowed to audible out of plays for Christ's sake (granted he always checked down to a running play, but the man was able to change plays).

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I honestly don't know why the hell Schaub isn't allowed to call audibles at the line. QBs are supposed to be a extension of their coach (especially if that coach is offensive minded) and alot of high caliber veteran QBs are given the freedom to call audibles every once in awhile. Schaub seems like a really smart guy and at this point he's a experienced veteran....I really don't understand why the man is never allowed to audible out of a play.

David freaking Carr was even allowed to audible out of player for Christ's sake (granted he always checked down to a running play, but hte man was able to change plays).
Schaub's not allowed to audible, because Kubiak will not allow ANY decision
HE makes to be questioned. The offense is his baby, and if he signs off
on it, it's gospel. If it doesn't work, Vonta missed a block. In Kubiak's
mind, if he calls the play, it's the RIGHT play.
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Default Re: Andre Johnson: "We Just Run What They Call"

I said this once in another thread that Kubes calls the plays, not lil shanny or even BOB....Coach freakin Kubiak thats it...what he sees goes and thats final...
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Schaub's not allowed to audible, because Kubiak will not allow ANY decision
HE makes to be questioned. The offense is his baby, and if he signs off
on it, it's gospel. If it doesn't work, Vonta missed a block. In Kubiak's
mind, if he calls the play, it's the RIGHT play.
Bam! I couldn't agree more...
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Default Re: Andre Johnson: "We Just Run What They Call"

This has been addressed by me on the radio and Matt and Rich said they know he is able to make changes to the play but he cannot call another play which is crazy in the NFL. If your running and you got 8 in the Box wouldn't it be better to send Andre long or something. I have gone around with this but to no avail. Matt and Rich never brought it up to Kubes when it was there job to do so.
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I have heard Rich bring it up with Gary himself on his show. Kubiak says that they believe in what they have called and should be able to run it, or something like that.
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I have heard Rich bring it up with Gary himself on his show. Kubiak says that they believe in what they have called and should be able to run it, or something like that.
Kubes hasn't shown a lot of flexibility of thought in his tenure here.

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If Kubiak allows Schaub to change plays it might be successful. However, it might also be unsuccessful. I see the limitation on Schaub as further .500 thinking. It is "not playing to win" for fear of losing. As more commonly stated: playing not to lose.

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I also think it is hard for a qb to become a leader when the coach restricts his ability to lead like this.
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Default Re: Andre Johnson: "We Just Run What They Call"

Makes no sense to me either. I wonder though, how many other coaches besides Kubiak don't allow audibles to be called? I don't know of any myself but don't keep up with other teams either.

I do remember watching Mark Sanchez bark audibles in week 1 though.
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Makes no sense to me either. I wonder though, how many other coaches besides Kubiak don't allow audibles to be called? I don't know of any myself but don't keep up with other teams either.

I do remember watching Mark Sanchez bark audibles in week 1 though.
And I thought maybe Kubes' kidz were just too young.
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Default Re: Andre Johnson: "We Just Run What They Call"

A lot of what this offense does is to set up things they want to do later.

They hammer you on slants to set up the slant and go which has gotten us quite a few long TDs.
They run the ball whether it is working or not so they can run playaction, which had gotten us a ton of TDs.
They run a bunch of passes in a row to get teams to pin their ears back so they can set up the screen.

I would like to see Schaub have the option to audible out of a play that the defense is clearly expecting, or in good position to stop. You don't throw a bubble screen against press coverage. You don't run a bunch of deep routes against an all out blitz. etc.

He needs to atleast be able to change individual routes.
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Default Re: Andre Johnson: "We Just Run What They Call"

The good teams all have an OC for a QB. I don't know why we don't get our QB to audible. Plummer used to do it in Denver.
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The good teams all have an OC for a QB. I don't know why we don't get our QB to audible. Plummer used to do it in Denver.
Its more of a factor of Kubiak not really allowing Schaub to audible. I am not really sure why, he does this. Football is a game of adjustments. If the D is adjusting to you, you must adjust to them.
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If you guys remember, this was the line that got Richard Smith canned when
his defensive players started using it. This is the way players express their
loss of confidence in their playcallers. If Kubiak ain't careful, he's gone.

My soap will remain up until a decision is made on him. His players verbally
express support for him, but on the field, they keep screwing up in crucial
situations.
your post makes zero sense.

"on the field they keep screwing up"...and yet you're unhappy with the head coach?...for what? not handling the ball correctly?

successful Brown pass=content/quiet fans
unsuccessful Brown pass=bitching and moaning on Kardashian level

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Default Re: Andre Johnson: "We Just Run What They Call"

I love AJ, but why wont he be a diva for once and say "I'm the best WR in this league and you never throw it to me in the red zone"
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your post makes zero sense.

"on the field they keep screwing up"...and yet you're unhappy with the head coach?...for what? not handling the ball correctly?

successful Brown pass=content/quiet fans
unsuccessful Brown pass=bitching and moaning on Kardashian level

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This team has CONSISTENTLY (over the last three seasons) found ways
to get destroyed in close games. THAT, is on coaching. It's not "occasional,"
it's CONSISTENT. Coming out FLAAAAATTTT at HOME on OPENING DAY,
and looking INEPT AS ALL HELL, falls on the coaching. The players will
go as far as the coaches lead them PERIOD, DOT.

They came out "Jets Game Style" in BACK-TO-BACK seasons.

The Saints' hurricane season was much worse than ours, and they went to the
NFC Title Game. Their leadership instilled mental toughness into THAT SQUAD.

We now have three consecutive years of losing in the division, and winning
against everybody else. So, yes. It's the coaching pal. If 2006 was such
a low-talented team, why did Kubiak post his best division record ever, 3-3,
in ONLY THAT SEASON??

When you lose five, and win five, what do you get?

.500 winning percentage

When you start 5-3, and EVERY GAME MATTERS, what did it get us?
0-4

Look past 8-8, and I'll show you a coach that gets this team to lose with
more PIZAAAAAAZZ than any coach in the NFL.

Every week, they players say the same thing:
"We lost. We just gotta look at the film, and get ready for the next game."

Every goddamned week. They're checking to tape to see how they screwed
up THIS week, and they'll find a NEW way to do it the NEXT week. They
ARE consistent, just not in the direction we need them to head in.
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This thread confuses me.

Did AJ say this or do you want him to say this?
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Umm, yeah......that happens when you call off the cuff trick plays. Eric Winston even said the same exact thing himself on his radio show. NOBODY would be throwing a ***** fest here if the call was a fade to Andre in the back of the end zone. Kubiak's biggest problem here is he always has to outsmart himself time and time again. He would be better served going with the K.I.S.S. play call more often Excuse it any way you want, but the fact still remains.....that was a horrible call that just reeked of desperation.

Speaking of Andre, in all my years of watching pro football I have never seen a all-pro WR denied as much as he is in the red zone. Good teams find a way to get their stud playmaker the ball in the red zone and alot of times Kubiak doesn't even draw plays up for him.....it's actually embarrassing that his career high for TD receptions is 8. Seriously, the guy has arguably the best combination of size, strength, and speed at WO in the league, but for whatever reason we can't seem to get him the ball in the redzone....and Kubiak is supposed to be this "great offensive guru".
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AJ has his TO moment LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJD4FNpPmrk
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How many times have we seen a jumbo formation on the goal line and Andre's not even in the game. Thats what I don't get.
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