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Old 12-02-2009   #1
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Default TCU should be in the Big 12

TCU is ranked #4 in the country in football right now:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings/_/week/14

If Texas were to lose to Nebraska in the Big 12 Championship game on Saturday, TCU would have a legitimate argument for being chosen to play the winner of Florida-Alabama for the national championship. And this year's performance is no fluke. The Horned Frogs have won at least 10 games in a season in four of the last five years, and they have won 11 games in three of the last four. TCU has consistently fielded remarkably strong football teams.

TCU has also been competitive in Baseball.

On the other hand, Baylor has struggled mightily since day one in the Big 12. The Bears have been routinely outmatched. Maybe they are just now finding their stride, and will be competitive from now on. But so far that has not been the case.

TCU should be invited into the Big 12 South, and Baylor should be permitted to find another conference where they have a more reasonable chance of being competitive and establishing a winning tradition.
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TCU's strength of schedule is actually rated tougher than Texas this year.

Baylor will stay in the Big 12 because of some rule that talks about if a conference has a private school then certain records can be kept private for all the schools in the conference. Don't ask me to explain.

Baylor will continue to be the doormat for the Big 12 for eternity.
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Default Re: TCU should be in the Big 12

Personally I was thinking Baylor and UH might want to think about switching conferences.

Either way it would make the Big 12 South the toughest division in the land.
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TCU's strength of schedule is actually rated tougher than Texas this year.

Baylor will stay in the Big 12 because of some rule that talks about if a conference has a private school then certain records can be kept private for all the schools in the conference. Don't ask me to explain.

Baylor will continue to be the doormat for the Big 12 for eternity.
TCU is a private school just like Baylor. If they were to switch places, TCU would enable all of these privileges that you mention to be maintained.
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Default Re: TCU should be in the Big 12

Baylor is not going to leave the Big XII. They will be content to be doormats every year just to cash those checks each year.
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Default Re: TCU should be in the Big 12

i never understood why tcu didnt get the invite to the big 12 over baylor that being said my thinking is having baylor in the big 12 boosts the academics of the conference and with a team like baylor in house keeps texas and oklahoma from having to play teams like tcu or boise
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TCU is a private school just like Baylor. If they were to switch places, TCU would enable all of these privileges that you mention to be maintained.
I forgot TCU is private.

Too bad for the Frogs that Ann Richards went to Baylor.
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Too bad for the Frogs that Ann Richards went to Baylor.
Yep, Baylor had too much political pull.

I would like to see both TCU and UH in the Big 12 South. They could then move OU and OSU north and kick out 2 lame North schools because that division is so lame.
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Old Southwest Conf was good. Just think Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, Texans A&M, Houston, Arkansas SMU, Baylor, and Rice. This aint bad group. Especially, bolded unis.
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Old Southwest Conf was good. Just think Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, Texans A&M, Houston, Arkansas SMU, Baylor, and Rice. This aint bad group. Especially, bolded unis.
yeah the southwest conf was the best. but after smu got hit with the death penalty that was the beginning of the end
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yeah the southwest conf was the best. but after smu got hit with the death penalty that was the beginning of the end
Yeah and Houston got hit once before SMU if I recall correctly.
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Yeah and Houston got hit once before SMU if I recall correctly.
coogs got hit in 89 smu got hit in 85 ncaa found out they were still paying players then dropped the hammer in 86. no football in 87 no home games in 88 lost 55 scholarships school added a self imposed extra year of prob no tv games from 86-89 and the list goes on imagine if ohio state or florida or usc got hit like that! smu after 23 years is just now recovering imo and that's why there will never be another death penalty sorry about going on and on but i have a weird obsession with the smu death penalty
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Yeah

SMU got screwed.

I read a book about it years ago.

Cant remember the name of the book.
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When I was in high school, back in 83' or so, one of the star football players was also the State champ shot-putter. One Saturday morning, he did not show up at the school to ride the bus to the track meet. We waited around, the coach called his house. He could not be reached.

We left without him and arrived at the stadium about 25 miles away. As we were piling out of the bus, our shot-putter drives up in a brand new silver 280ZX. He had signed with SMU the day before.

He went on to have a great career at SMU and played for many years in the NFL.
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That would be Michael Carter former NT for the 49ers.
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TCU is ranked #4 in the country in football right now:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings/_/week/14

If Texas were to lose to Nebraska in the Big 12 Championship game on Saturday, TCU would have a legitimate argument for being chosen to play the winner of Florida-Alabama for the national championship. And this year's performance is no fluke. The Horned Frogs have won at least 10 games in a season in four of the last five years, and they have won 11 games in three of the last four. TCU has consistently fielded remarkably strong football teams.

TCU has also been competitive in Baseball.

On the other hand, Baylor has struggled mightily since day one in the Big 12. The Bears have been routinely outmatched. Maybe they are just now finding their stride, and will be competitive from now on. But so far that has not been the case.

TCU should be invited into the Big 12 South, and Baylor should be permitted to find another conference where they have a more reasonable chance of being competitive and establishing a winning tradition.
If your talking football only, ok, but Baylor has the second most National Championships in the Big 12 to Texas.....
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Yeah

SMU got screwed.

I read a book about it years ago.

Cant remember the name of the book.
there's a couple of them but my fav is "a payroll to meet" its goes really deep into why they still paid players even after they got caught the first time and how everybody from texas to tcu and a&m could have gotten the death penalty too! very good book but very hard to find because its a collectors item lucked up and found my copy at a garage sale in fort worth
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If your talking football only, ok, but Baylor has the second most National Championships in the Big 12 to Texas.....
True, before the Texas game they carted their tennis team on the field to congratulate them for their Big 12 Championship. Despite Texas killing them on the football field a few Baylor fans were taunting us saying "at least we kicked your a**es in tennis!".

Knowing we lost at tennis really took the fun out of killing them in football. I had no comeback for that.

Sic'em Bears

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When I was in high school, back in 83' or so, one of the star football players was also the State champ shot-putter. One Saturday morning, he did not show up at the school to ride the bus to the track meet. We waited around, the coach called his house. He could not be reached.

We left without him and arrived at the stadium about 25 miles away. As we were piling out of the bus, our shot-putter drives up in a brand new silver 280ZX. He had signed with SMU the day before.

He went on to have a great career at SMU and played for many years in the NFL.
I've got a good one. Some of you Cougars probably won't like it, but it's been verified by a few coaches that I've met who were around at the time.

During his senior year of high school Eric Dickerson was being recruited heavily by all the teams in the Southwest Conference. He came down to a final three of Oklahoma, Houston, and SMU.

On his official visit to UH he was presented with a brand new Pontiac Trans-Am. The UH athletic department figured they would get to Dickerson before SMU could because everyone knew they were eventually going to try. Well it backfired. Because the very next day, Dickerson drove up to SMU's campus in his brand new car and committed on the spot. He kept the car that UH gave him though.
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Why don't we just get old Southwest conf back and for doing that give Benz to all AD and HD of Unis respectively lol
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