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Old 12-01-2009   #1
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Default Interesting quote from Coach Kollar Re: Mario

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""Obviously, he's a big guy with a ton of talent that plays pretty hard and has a lot of upside to him," Kollar said. "What I saw was he did a little too much speed rushing and going around the guys instead of running over offensive tackles. That's something we've been working on all year, to get him a better feel of that. He's gotten better. It's messed him up a little with that shoulder dinged up, but he's definitely getting better at it."

I find it interesting that Kollar is specifically coaching Mario NOT to do what he's been doing all season. Before Kollar came here we would see Mario get sacks off of his bull rush (which is one of the best in the league). Now, the bull rush is basically nonexistant. I blamed it on the shoulder injury, but Kollar claims that they are coaching him to run over tackles more often which tells me he is capable of still doing the bull rush.

Why isn't he bull rushing then? Supposedly we're coaching him up to do more of what he used to do before this DL coach arrived...
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To me it looks like he just tries to blow by the OL and rushes his merry way on past the QB as the QB steps up into the pocket.
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Default Re: Interesting quote from Coach Kollar Re: Mario

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To me it looks like he just tries to blow by the OL and rushes his merry way on past the QB as the QB steps up into the pocket.
Apparently he's being coached to do what he did under Jethro Franklin.
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""Obviously, he's a big guy with a ton of talent that plays pretty hard and has a lot of upside to him," Kollar said. "What I saw was he did a little too much speed rushing and going around the guys instead of running over offensive tackles. That's something we've been working on all year, to get him a better feel of that. He's gotten better. It's messed him up a little with that shoulder dinged up, but he's definitely getting better at it."

I find it interesting that Kollar is specifically coaching Mario NOT to do what he's been doing all season. Before Kollar came here we would see Mario get sacks off of his bull rush (which is one of the best in the league). Now, the bull rush is basically nonexistant. I blamed it on the shoulder injury, but Kollar claims that they are coaching him to run over tackles more often which tells me he is capable of still doing the bull rush.

Why isn't he bull rushing then? Supposedly we're coaching him up to do more of what he used to do before this DL coach arrived...
Perhaps, Mario's shoulder injury is still causing some problem?

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Default Re: Interesting quote from Coach Kollar Re: Mario

He has been *MUCH* better on run support though, I think if he gets 9/10 sacks per year and with the better run support I would be happy, just seems like he's having to really watch the shoulder..

My guess.. rotater cuff issues..
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He has been *MUCH* better on run support though, I think if he gets 9/10 sacks per year and with the better run support I would be happy, just seems like he's having to really watch the shoulder..

My guess.. rotater cuff issues..
Indeed, something is fishy with his shoulder... I just found it interesting to read the coach say he's trying to do one thing when he's clearly not.
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Why isn't he bull rushing then?
its a lot of work. In his defense there are two injuries that will kill the worth of a lineman...knees and shoulders.
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Indeed, something is fishy with his shoulder... I just found it interesting to read the coach say he's trying to do one thing when he's clearly not.

I assume they are being intentionally ambiguous about his shoulder, though at this point I'm not sure why. The team really couldn't afford a big injury to Mario, but it sure seems to be playing a part in his season.
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To me it looks like he just tries to blow by the OL and rushes his merry way on past the QB as the QB steps up into the pocket.
It looks like that because that's all he's really capable of doing on one shoulder.

I don't think it has anything to do with the coaching and I think the OP is overanalyzing. Mario's shoulder is hurt and therefore his bull rush is ineffective.
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It looks like that because that's all he's really capable of doing on one shoulder.

I don't think it has anything to do with the coaching and I think the OP is overanalyzing. Mario's shoulder is hurt and therefore his bull rush is ineffective.
They keep flipping him from strong side to weak side...if they knew one shoulder was THAT bad, why would they let him play with his bad shoulder on the inside? The inside shoulder is the one that is going to get jammed in a pass rush for the most part.
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To me it looks like he just tries to blow by the OL and rushes his merry way on past the QB as the QB steps up into the pocket.
How much of this is because our DT's are heading west and east respectively, instead of south toward the QB? Seems the opposing QB has a pocket all the way up to the LOS way too often on pass plays.
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How much of this is because our DT's are heading west and east respectively, instead of south toward the QB? Seems the opposing QB has a pocket all the way up to the LOS way too often on pass plays.
Well, our DT play isn't exactly providing Mario a lot of support, you're right about that.
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Really? Kollar said that. The same Kollar that is referred to here?

http://www.battleredblog.com/2009/7/...lar-do-for-you

It looks like to me anyways, that Mario is trying the speed rush to the outside to much and getting pushed out of the way. I know the shoulder is an issue, but still. Whatever.
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He has been *MUCH* better on run support though, I think if he gets 9/10 sacks per year and with the better run support I would be happy, just seems like he's having to really watch the shoulder..

My guess.. rotater cuff issues..
I can say, if you have a rotator cuff issue, you can't do anything. You lose most of your power and have to find ways to play without using your arm. Not very easy for Linemen. ( I played OT )
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