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**infantrycak** · 03-17-2005

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Originally Posted by DChamp

you think their run blocking is any better?

Actually yes kind of. IMO the pass blocking was decent and the run blocking was bad for the 1st half of the season and then for the 2nd half the pass blocking was bad and the run blocking was pretty good. Quite a bit of the improvement in DD's stats in the latter part of the season has to go to the OL stepping up the blocking.

DChamp · 03-17-2005

I'm just saying DD put up some pretty respectable numbers for just being in the league for 2 seasons. I think he has tremendous upside and is too early in his career to say that he's just an average change of pace back. I just look at DD's numbers from last year and compare them to Deuces who had the same problem with injuries and a bad O line and they are about the same. In fact DDs yardage from last year would place him in 4th place if he where in the NFC and 8th in the AFC as of where it stands now with the same 3.9 rushing average as LT who had 37 more carries than DD. Maybe I'm just not seeing what the DD bashers are seeing cause his numbers look good to me, and he's a young back. Give him some time. He's got too much upside to not want to see what can do next season. He just needs to shut up about rushing for over 2,000 yards that aint gonna happen.

But I totally agree with the Texans drafting another running back. It never hurts to have a soild one two punch. Just don't draft Branndon Jacobs(I read his name mentioned here somewhere), I know he's gifted but he's a head case. He's from Louisiana was supposed to go to LSU but had problems went to JC then to Auburn where was running behind Cadillac and Ronnie Brown thought he was better than them so he transfred to Southern Illinoise for playing time, he's does have skills but that guys a bad attitude waiting to happen. I'd try and draft Arrington, Fasion,Moats,etc in the later rounds.

**infantrycak** · 03-17-2005

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Originally Posted by DChamp

then to Auburn where was running behind Cadillac and Ronnie Brown thought he was better than them so he transfred to Southern Illinoise for playing time

Haven't seen anyone say he thought he was better than them, it was just a practical decision that with the two of them there he was not going to get any significant playing time and so when draft time roled around he would be unknown. Seems like a shrewd move to me.

BigDTexansFan · 03-19-2005

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Originally Posted by F-minus67

I think the texans should try to sign him to an extention, he's only making like $500,000 a year and has rushed for a 1000 yards in each of the past two years and has scored 22 touchdowns.

I agree sign him to an extension BEFORE season cause if he goes back to 100+ yard games we will be looking at a large payment for his services

Jwwillis · 03-19-2005

The age of the little water bug RB will be short lived. Everybody wants to find another Barry Sanders but they will only come along every 100yrs. Durability is a key issue. Im not a stats guy but I doubt there are any backs starting under 5'-11" that didnt miss a few games last season. I always think of Earl Campbell who was 5'-10" and dished out the punishment and missed very few games. Dom is getting hammered out there, he will be lucky to finish out his contract in one piece. There is a reason the Texans want to keep Wells around, other than the other Dom just likes big backs, and its goal line O. Wells performed much better last season and give the Texans much needed bulk a HB. Actually, If the Texans could get something good for DD id be happy with a trade. It used to be a halfbacks average career only lasts 5-6 yrs anyway (not sure now). Id like to get a fast back that can run over some people.

cptnbreakdance · 03-20-2005

Are you forgetting LT?

Height: 5-10
Weight: 221

Jwwillis · 03-20-2005

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Originally Posted by cptnbreakdance

Are you forgetting LT?

Height: 5-10
Weight: 221

He missed games...one against us as i recall.

gg no re · 03-20-2005

Ummmm.... LDT did play against Houston..... the whole game too..........

Jwwillis · 03-20-2005

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Originally Posted by gg no re

Ummmm.... LDT did play against Houston..... the whole game too..........

Thats right, it was his 1st game back from injury. thanks for jogging my memory.

ledzeppelin229 · 03-20-2005

I think some people need to remember a few things - Davis was drafted in the 4th round as a near unknown RB to many people, as he wasn't even the starter at LSU. Therefore, even if all we ever get out of him is a solid starter/RB by committee type RB, then he isn't "bust material" and people shouldnt be expecting a pro bowl filled career just because he started spouting off about 2000 yard seasons.

**infantrycak** · 03-20-2005

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Originally Posted by Jwwillis

Thats right, it was his 1st game back from injury. thanks for jogging my memory.

Try 1st game of the season.

As for under 5'11"--any criteria for RB's will show a high number missing at least one game a season--RB's get hurt, period. Height has to be one of the worst way to quantify durability. Is a 6' 200 lb player more solid/durable or a 5' 9" 220 lb player? Of the 1000 yd rushers last year only 8 of 18 played in all 16 games. Of those 8, only two were over 5' 11" and both of those were the towering height of 6". Height does not equal durability.

SwampHound · 03-20-2005

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Originally Posted by DChamp

I'd try and draft Arrington, Fasion, Moats, etc in the later rounds.

I saw Moats play a few times last season, he is worth risking a 4th or 5th round draft choice on as he has the potiential to be a very good player.

BornOrange · 03-20-2005

Comparing Davis to Emmitt Smith is a joke.

Smith would play in pain and play well. Davis doesn't.

Smith would rarely be tackled by the first man to touch him. Davis is.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS · 03-20-2005

Oh boy. People are comparing DD to Emmitt Smith now? Definitely some homers in here.

TexansTrueFan · 03-20-2005

oh lord steel blue you are still arguing over this Dom Davis matter,,well here goes if thats the case "Dom Davis the next great thing"

**edo783** · 03-21-2005

Not sure where I heard it, but supposidly the taller RBs are MORE suseptible to injury because they run more upright and don't get their pads as low. One of the criteria for durability is weight and DD is plenty heavy and muceled at 220+. Just seems to have had a string of bad luck. Some players are like that, never seem to catch a break. Fred Taylor is one that comes to mind.

D-ReK · 03-21-2005

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Originally Posted by TexansTrueFan

Dom Davis the next great thing

There's no getting through to some people...

michaelm · 03-21-2005

You've seen it on the news...

Read about it in the papers...

and heard the whispers in the night...

it's...

the...

Post That Would Not Die!!!!

and likely won't die until DD shuts peole up or is replaced...

KingRat · 03-21-2005

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Originally Posted by TexansTrueFan

oh lord steel blue you are still arguing over this Dom Davis matter,,well here goes if thats the case "Dom Davis the next great thing"

Make that "37 Double D, always a great thing", "the next Barry Sanders",
"best RB ever in a Texans uniform", "___ __ _____" ( fill in the blanks )

signed, Homer HomeyRat <:~

texan279 · 03-21-2005

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I'd totally blame your bad O line for any RB problems of course its the O line look how many times they get Carr sacked, you think their run blocking is any better?.

Our run blocking is much better than our pass blocking, just because an O line is bad in pass blocking doesn't mean it is bad in run blocking also and vice versa, DD had some big games in the last half of the season and it was because the zone blocking came together. Look at what Clinton Portis did in Denver then look at what he did for Washington last season. Also look at what the other Denver RB's have done in the last couple of seasons, it has all been a product of the zone blocking.

03-20-2005	#286
cptnbreakdance Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 26 Posts: 120 Rep Power: 9	Are you forgetting LT? Height: 5-10 Weight: 221 __________________ "Holy Cr@p! Did any one else feel that?!" - Peter Griffen

03-20-2005	#295
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03-21-2005	#296
edo783 Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, again. Posts: 7,700 Rep Power: 4640	Not sure where I heard it, but supposidly the taller RBs are MORE suseptible to injury because they run more upright and don't get their pads as low. One of the criteria for durability is weight and DD is plenty heavy and muceled at 220+. Just seems to have had a string of bad luck. Some players are like that, never seem to catch a break. Fred Taylor is one that comes to mind. __________________ De Oppresso Liber

03-21-2005	#298
michaelm vox nihili Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Spring, TX Section: 648 Age: 47 Posts: 5,085 Rep Power: 31857	You've seen it on the news... Read about it in the papers... and heard the whispers in the night... it's... the... Post That Would Not Die!!!! and likely won't die until DD shuts peole up or is replaced... __________________ Every time you make a typo, the errorists win.

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03-17-2005	#282
DChamp Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Age: 34 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	I'm just saying DD put up some pretty respectable numbers for just being in the league for 2 seasons. I think he has tremendous upside and is too early in his career to say that he's just an average change of pace back. I just look at DD's numbers from last year and compare them to Deuces who had the same problem with injuries and a bad O line and they are about the same. In fact DDs yardage from last year would place him in 4th place if he where in the NFC and 8th in the AFC as of where it stands now with the same 3.9 rushing average as LT who had 37 more carries than DD. Maybe I'm just not seeing what the DD bashers are seeing cause his numbers look good to me, and he's a young back. Give him some time. He's got too much upside to not want to see what can do next season. He just needs to shut up about rushing for over 2,000 yards that aint gonna happen. But I totally agree with the Texans drafting another running back. It never hurts to have a soild one two punch. Just don't draft Branndon Jacobs(I read his name mentioned here somewhere), I know he's gifted but he's a head case. He's from Louisiana was supposed to go to LSU but had problems went to JC then to Auburn where was running behind Cadillac and Ronnie Brown thought he was better than them so he transfred to Southern Illinoise for playing time, he's does have skills but that guys a bad attitude waiting to happen. I'd try and draft Arrington, Fasion,Moats,etc in the later rounds.

03-19-2005	#285
Jwwillis All Pro Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 50 Posts: 610 Rep Power: 9	The age of the little water bug RB will be short lived. Everybody wants to find another Barry Sanders but they will only come along every 100yrs. Durability is a key issue. Im not a stats guy but I doubt there are any backs starting under 5'-11" that didnt miss a few games last season. I always think of Earl Campbell who was 5'-10" and dished out the punishment and missed very few games. Dom is getting hammered out there, he will be lucky to finish out his contract in one piece. There is a reason the Texans want to keep Wells around, other than the other Dom just likes big backs, and its goal line O. Wells performed much better last season and give the Texans much needed bulk a HB. Actually, If the Texans could get something good for DD id be happy with a trade. It used to be a halfbacks average career only lasts 5-6 yrs anyway (not sure now). Id like to get a fast back that can run over some people.

03-20-2005	#288
gg no re iggnorent Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 27 Posts: 4,610 Rep Power: 14949	Ummmm.... LDT did play against Houston..... the whole game too..........

03-20-2005	#293
BornOrange All Pro Join Date: May 2004 Age: 44 Posts: 556 Rep Power: 14	Comparing Davis to Emmitt Smith is a joke. Smith would play in pain and play well. Davis doesn't. Smith would rarely be tackled by the first man to touch him. Davis is.

03-20-2005	#294
STEEL BLUE TEXANS Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sugar Land, Texas Age: 30 Posts: 5,327 Rep Power: 1832	Oh boy. People are comparing DD to Emmitt Smith now? Definitely some homers in here.

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