Not Schaub's Fault

[m5kwatts]

Don't blame Schaub for what happened today or for the Texans' seasonal collapse. First off, you're not going to find an upgrade to him in the offseason. Free agency or draft does not provide franchise QBs over night especially not an upgrade to what we already have.

Secondly, it wasn't Schaub calling naked bootleg rollouts to start the 2nd half. It wasn't him continuing to call naked bootleg rollouts after the Colts scored. Why weren't we running it? Can we please manage a game correctly and play the clock? UGH. The coaching was AWFUL today. Abysmal. The staff lost the game today.

[DexmanC]

Gotta co-sign this. I'm sure Mr. Mcnair feels the same way.

[Porky]

Schaub had an A grade in half 1 and a F grade in half two. How can you leave him blameless? Schaub was HORRIBLE in the 2nd half. HORRRIBLE. He choked. The staff choked. The D choked. The freaking water boy choked. This is the not ready for prime time players.

I do agree in keeping Schaub at this point, but we need a coaching staff that can actually coach. This staff sucks.

[wagonhed]

Schaub is a very good quarterback. He threw as many ints as Manning did today. It's really hard to put blame for the 2nd half on Schaub when the playcalling and coaching was as terrible as it was.

[m5kwatts]

Originally Posted by Porky

Schaub had an A grade in half 1 and a F grade in half two. How can you leave him blameless? Schaub was HORRIBLE in the 2nd half. HORRRIBLE. He choked. The staff choked. The D choked. The freaking water boy choked. This is the not ready for prime time players.

I do agree in keeping Schaub at this point, but we need a coaching staff that can actually coach. This staff sucks.

Schaub's just running the plays that are called. He isn't given permission to audible. I remember 2 naked rollouts where the end met Schaub before he could even turn around. That is DUMB playcalling. Schaub should atleast be able to look at the defense and audible out of garbage like that. We should have gone into protect mode and ran the friggin ball in the 2nd half. That would've helped Schaub immensely.

[Dread-Head]

won't putt it ALL on him...but won' call him BLAMELESS either.

[bah007]

I don't put the loss on Schaub's shoulders but there is certainly a lot of blame that should be directed at him. The dude was absolutely terrible in the second half. He is far from the only one, but let's not pretend like he didn't contribute to the problem with his play in the second half.

[Esoom]

Schaub did make quite a few ugly passes in the second half, but the playcalling was overwhelmingly awful.

[checo446]

Originally Posted by bah007

I don't put the loss on Schaub's shoulders but there is certainly a lot of blame that should be directed at him. The dude was absolutely terrible in the second half. He is far from the only one, but let's not pretend like he didn't contribute to the problem with his play in the second half.

Exactly.

[m5kwatts]

Schaub deserves blame but he doesn't deserve "lets replace him now" kind of blame like the coaching staff deserves.

[Malloy]

Horrible dumbass playcalling coming out in the second half, why not stick to running the ball and the occational play action, we had the Colts in the bag in the first half doing this, why stop when we're sitting on the game?

I am 100% sure that our playcalling, yet again, killed the game for us, are we getting rid of Shanny junior or is it Kubiak calling it?

[eriadoc]

I call BS. Schaub played like ass in the second half. He made stupid throws, bad throws, and that fumble was 100% on him. You don't hold the ball out there like that and expect anything less. And the fact that we can't get an upgrade to him immediately doesn't mean you hold him blameless.

The coaches deserve their share of the blame, and they'll get it by losing their jobs. What do the players get? A free pass from many of you, and millions of dollars along the way.

[TexansBlood]

It was'nt all his fault but him and AJ were'nt in the same page in some routes.. False starts playing at home is embarrasing, AJ dropped that catch and it hurt us, Antonio Smith with those 15 yd penalties, Dunta could have done better, not playing Jacoby Jones till the last 2 mins of the game. I blame Gary Kubiak for this loss and season!

[fikster]

[quote=m5kwatts;1310784]Don't blame Schaub for what happened today or for the Texans' seasonal collapse. First off, you're not going to find an upgrade to him in the offseason. Free agency or draft does not provide franchise QBs over night especially not an upgrade to what we already have.

Secondly, it wasn't Schaub calling naked bootleg rollouts to start the 2nd half. It wasn't him continuing to call naked bootleg rollouts after the Colts scored. Why weren't we running it? Can we please manage a game correctly and play the clock? UGH. The coaching was AWFUL today. Abysmal. The staff lost the game today.[/QUOT

Schaub is responsible for this too. Along with the staff. Didn't we trade for him in an offseason when there wasn't much in free agency or the draft? Why can't we trade again, since you say the offseason looks bleak.

[m5kwatts]

Originally Posted by eriadoc

I call BS. Schaub played like ass in the second half. He made stupid throws, bad throws, and that fumble was 100% on him. You don't hold the ball out there like that and expect anything less. And the fact that we can't get an upgrade to him immediately doesn't mean you hold him blameless.

The coaches deserve their share of the blame, and they'll get it by losing their jobs. What do the players get? A free pass from many of you, and millions of dollars along the way.

Did you miss the first half? We have the players in place to make plays. Our QB was on fire. Then our coaching reared its ugly head and managed the game horribly. The fumble was in Schaub's blind side completely, he can't account for guys he can't see. The pick 6 was Schaub's fault, he didn't account for Brackett sitting on that route. But come on, Schaub's poor second half performance is way more than just him turning $ucky in a matter of minutes. How does a QB go from looking awesome to awful from one half to the next? It SHOULDNT HAPPEN. I wanna think its Schaub but he shows his upside. The staff does not do him any favors.

[m5kwatts]

[quote=fikster;1310892]

Originally Posted by m5kwatts

Don't blame Schaub for what happened today or for the Texans' seasonal collapse. First off, you're not going to find an upgrade to him in the offseason. Free agency or draft does not provide franchise QBs over night especially not an upgrade to what we already have.

Secondly, it wasn't Schaub calling naked bootleg rollouts to start the 2nd half. It wasn't him continuing to call naked bootleg rollouts after the Colts scored. Why weren't we running it? Can we please manage a game correctly and play the clock? UGH. The coaching was AWFUL today. Abysmal. The staff lost the game today.[/QUOT

Schaub is responsible for this too. Along with the staff. Didn't we trade for him in an offseason when there wasn't much in free agency or the draft? Why can't we trade again, since you say the offseason looks bleak.

Schaub is going to make the pro bowl this year. Do you see any possible pro bowlers serving as backup QBs to go get in a trade? And do you really wanna give up 1st or 2nd round picks when we already gave up 2 2nd rounders for Schaub just 3 years ago? Thats not smart.

[Esoom]

[quote=fikster;1310892]

Originally Posted by m5kwatts

Don't blame Schaub for what happened today or for the Texans' seasonal collapse. First off, you're not going to find an upgrade to him in the offseason. Free agency or draft does not provide franchise QBs over night especially not an upgrade to what we already have.

Secondly, it wasn't Schaub calling naked bootleg rollouts to start the 2nd half. It wasn't him continuing to call naked bootleg rollouts after the Colts scored. Why weren't we running it? Can we please manage a game correctly and play the clock? UGH. The coaching was AWFUL today. Abysmal. The staff lost the game today.[/QUOT

Schaub is responsible for this too. Along with the staff. Didn't we trade for him in an offseason when there wasn't much in free agency or the draft? Why can't we trade again, since you say the offseason looks bleak.

Are you serious? This is the only game all year where he played poorly, and it was only for a half and you want to trade for a new QB in the offseason. He is one of the best Quarterbacks in the league.

[wagonhed]

Yeah, some posts in this thread are a freaking joke. You're talking about replacing one of the best players on our team? Brilliant.

[sometexansfan]

Schaub's a pretty good QB, but he still has those WTF moments. I don't blame him entirely for the loss, but he sure didn't help too much in the second half. I know the play calling was poor, but that pass to Session, come on man. Come on.

[eriadoc]

Originally Posted by m5kwatts

Did you miss the first half?

Did you miss the second half? Those same players choked when it was on the line. The coaches didn't call a play that consists of having four defenders bounce off of Chad Simpson, or Tad Simpson, or whoever the **** that was. The coaches didn't call a play that involved Matt Schaub making a bad read and throwing that out pattern that the DB was sitting on. The coaches didn't call a play that involved Matt Schaub holding the ball down low so the DL could swipe at it.

That **** was on the players. Sure, the coaches could have called different plays; maybe they could have been more aggressive at times. But what makes you think those same players that showed up in the second half and played like crap would all of a sudden play differently? The players have been consistent in one ting all season - showing up for half a football game. Coaches make calls, players make plays (well, not our players).

And I'm not advocating canning Schaub, either. But when he plays like ****, I'm not going to blame the coaches for it. Schaub played like **** for half a game today. It's just that simple, but everyone is looking for someone else to blame.