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Old 11-24-2009   #1
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Yes I know the waters are frigid and filled with pissed off sharks today. I know I would feel the same if I were you.

My honest opinion is that the one element missing from your team is "fire in the belly." Yes there was emotion on the field, and yes, there is an intense rivalry on the rise, but I didn't see that extra 'gear' of fire from a team fighting for its playoff lives. I saw it from Pollard and Cushing, but no one on offense or on the sidelint seemed to have that 'anger urgency' knowing how big a game this was for the franchise.

I think the Texans needs an edgier coach - no offense to Kubiak but a less cerebral, more emotional and angry coaching staff is needed. The talent is in place at many key positions IMO for your team, it just needs something to put it all together, and at this stage, its time to upgrade from Kubiak and his staff.

Who to bring in? Hell if I know. Pick your emotional coach not currently in the league, but Schottenheimer, Cowher, hell even Holmgren would not have allowed the Texans to play a bit flat like I thought they did last night.
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I agree.
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Whatever bro. They have the fire. What they need is OD back and a new kicker.
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Whatever bro. They have the fire. What they need is OD back and a new kicker.
They were still losing important games with OD and before Kris Brown's current funk.
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Whatever bro. They have the fire. What they need is OD back and a new kicker.
The Giants lost Shockey then won a Super Bowl. It's not a TE that puts you over the top.
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i;d rather have calm cool and clear and cerebral

then guy just angry and yelling that will get u know were


Kubes stays hes the least of our problems
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Hate to say it... but next year is the tell all for this staff. Kubiak aint going anywhere with McNair running the show. We have a few more holes to fill, and we have the youngest starting lineup in the NFL.

Beat Indy next week and things change dramatically around here. Small task right?
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The Giants lost Shockey then won a Super Bowl. It's not a TE that puts you over the top.
I did not say that did I?
When you have a Manning at the helm, you could win a ring with a monkey as your TE and WR.


SB? Over the top?, what does that even mean?--postseason?, SB? Realistically, the Texans are trying to make the postseason and its quite obvious that losing one of the most productive TE in the league and having a bust for a kicker has severely hindered the chances of making the postseason.

I'm tired of all this opposing fan love-fest crap here. Go away already.
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I did not say that did I?
When you have a Manning at the helm, you could win a ring with a monkey as your TE and WR.


SB? Over the top, what does that even mean--postseason, SB? Realistically, the Texans are trying to make the postseason and its quite obvious that losing on the most productive TE in the league and having a bust for a kicker has severely hindered the chances of making the postseason.
Look you obviously follow the team more than I do - but don't put Eli Manning on the same pedastal as his brother! They won because their D did the impossible and shut down the best O of the decade.

And to go from a perennial 8-8 team to a serious contender is not a stretch, not when you have 4 or 5 All Pros on the team. The loss of Daniels absolutely hurts, but its been Andre Johnson that has been the player torching the titans. Ask Kubiak why he would call a screen to Slaton when Johnson should damn well be the primary target.

And yes, obviously a kicker that can consistently make clutch FGs would be nice, but it would be nicer if he wasn't kicking 45YD+ FGs in those situations. Those aren't chipshots.

I was genuinely confused by the Texans last nite.
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i agree.
+ 1

Steve Young said as much after the game and I couldn't agree more. Kubiak had them playing like there was another 10 minutes on the clock.
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I did not say that did I?
When you have a Manning at the helm, you could win a ring with a monkey as your TE and WR.
You do realize that Shockey played with Eli Manning not Peyton correct?

BTW, I agree 100% with Toronto.
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I was genuinely confused by the Texans last nite.
Me too.

Actually, I knew we would come out flat. BYE week does that to us. When we've got ample time to gameplan... it gets a kink then the rest of the game is over. It's the Kubiak way. Kubiak was trying to outsmart Fisher rather than play our strengths.

Andre Johnson should demand a trade. I know he dropped three but four receptions for our All Pro? Absolutely demand it!
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Coaching, and ultimately execution in crunch time, was the difference in this one. Texans, for the umpteenth time, played NOT TO LOSE! I don't think losing ever crossed the mind of Jeff Fisher or his squad. All VY did was manage the game. Nothing spectacular - highly professional. Kubes is a great guy and undoubtedly a solid football man.

Don't know if he has head coach make-up.He has put far too much faith in an offensive coordinator who only has a last name as his coaching credential. Key series - after Tennessee misses a FG in the 4th, Texans go 3 and out. Game over. Matt Schaub has great numbers, just don't know if he is the guy. Defense needs to get the other guys off of the field. Not enough stops when they needed them.
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Hate to say it... but next year is the tell all for this staff. Kubiak aint going anywhere with McNair running the show. We have a few more holes to fill, and we have the youngest starting lineup in the NFL.

Beat Indy next week and things change dramatically around here. Small task right?
You guys almost beat them last time...and held them to 20 points. You guys have the team to do it. Plus I'll be rooting for you guys. I hope Mario puts that big ass head of Poutin's in the ground.
Honestly, it's always fun to see Manning get decked, regardless of who does it! LOL
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manning wants no part of mario

last game mario didnt even touch him but his mere pressure casused Manning to go into ball form
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manning wants no part of mario

last game mario didnt even touch him but his mere pressure casused Manning to go into ball form
Please make Manning do that again this Sunday.
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I actually wonder why Tennesseans do not have this fawning love for Manning like Houstonians do for Young?
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I was actually very suprised you did not feed AJ more. Harper could not cover him. He had one good pass deflection but most of the time we was way out of position or steps behind him. After the TD I figured every time Harper lined up with him it was going his way.
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Whatever bro. They have the fire. What they need is OD back and a new kicker.
yeah, that way we can get back to the good ol' days of being one game over .500
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