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Old 11-20-2009   #1
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There has been some noise about Casserly being interviewed by the Browns for a GM type postion. Can you guys/gals provide any info on him. What did you think of his drafts, how did he get along with coaches, did he have a plan?

Do you think he would help the Browns? If he is chosen, what should Browns fans expect?

I've searched through old threads and get mixed results. Thanks for the input.
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were the results mixed? i'm pretty sure you'll get only sympathy.
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He didn't do a good job here, I can't think of anyone who would defend Casserly on this board. I couldn't make a guess as to how he'd be for the Browns though. He's had success in the league in the past, just not for the Texans. While with the Texans, he made some really bone head draft picks, that's for sure. Kubiac and Smiths drafts are light years ahead of what Casserly did.

I wish you Brown fans good luck with your team. As a Houston pro football fan, I know full well what it's like to follow a train wreck for years on end.
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I live in Livingston, Tx and watch all Texans games while listening to radio broadcasts of the Browns. I never did like that the Texans did not build an O-line for Carr. Thought that was a waste. Just curious what you guys think. Really liked some of his later drafts.
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Default Re: Casserly to Browns? Rumor

I hope for the sake of the Cleveland Browns organization you guys go in a different direction. Casserly set the Texans back a couple years with some of his bone-headed drafting and other GM duties.

The only thing I can thank him for is not screwing up when he had the chance to and selecting Andre.
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I hope for the sake of the Cleveland Browns organization you guys go in a different direction. Casserly set the Texans back a couple years with some of his bone-headed drafting and other GM duties.

The only thing I can thank him for is not screwing up when he had the chance to and selecting Andre.
Casserly was still GM when they took Mario over VY and Reggie Bust. That was a real shit storm back then! LOLOLsss
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Casserly was still GM when they took Mario over VY and Reggie Bust. That was a real shit storm back then! LOLOLsss
True, but I'm in the boat that believes that was more of a Kubiak decision with the knowledge that Casserly was most likely on his way out of the picture.
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True, but I'm in the boat that believes that was more of a Kubiak decision with the knowledge that Casserly was most likely on his way out of the picture.
I've always wondered about that. I know we've discussed that many times on this board as to who's decision it was, but has there actually been anyone in the Texans organization that actually provided us with anything? Kubiac and Smith continue to draft defensive players high in the draft, so it wouldn't surprise me if it was Kubiac's decision.
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Default Re: Casserly to Browns? Rumor

Besides Mario in 2006 he also selected DeMeco Ryans and Owen Daniels. That draft turned out pretty good. Was it a fluke? His other drafts seemed to be a lot of misses.
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Besides Mario in 2006 he also selected DeMeco Ryans and Owen Daniels. That draft turned out pretty good. Was it a fluke? His other drafts seemed to be a lot of misses.
The team of Smith and Kubiac have drafted light years ahead of the team of Casserly and Capers, that's for damn sure. As to the draft in 2006 which was Casserly and Kubiac, I'm not sure anyone knows for certain.
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Default Re: Casserly to Browns? Rumor

Casserly was handed the Redskins team that was very successful (see Bobby Beathard). He did nothing but set this organization back (see Jason Babin et al). As far as the 2006 draft, personally I believe he was on his way out and really didn't have the much influence on who was drafted (but again, that's only speculation. No one really knows).

In short, I would feel really bad for the Browns if Casserly is hired.
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Besides Mario in 2006 he also selected DeMeco Ryans and Owen Daniels. That draft turned out pretty good. Was it a fluke? His other drafts seemed to be a lot of misses.
Right. And don't forget he also gets credit for drafting the best player this franchise has ever had back in the 2003 Draft. Clevland could do far worse than Casserly.
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There has been some noise about Casserly being interviewed by the Browns for a GM type postion. Can you guys/gals provide any info on him. What did you think of his drafts, how did he get along with coaches, did he have a plan?

Do you think he would help the Browns? If he is chosen, what should Browns fans expect?
Casserly is an incompetent boob. You may not believe it now, but Casserly will make the Browns even worse.
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Right. And don't forget he also gets credit for drafting the best player this franchise has ever had back in the 2003 Draft. Clevland could do far worse than Casserly.
I don't know how really. Al Davis? Cass was very bad at what he did. When he wasnt making bad drafts, he gave out horrible money.
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If the Browns want 8 more years of misery (4 with the team, 4 trying to recover) then by all means hire the guy.
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Casserly:
Recommend back head coaching candidates
Drafted poorly
Signed terrible FAs to enormous contracts

what else?
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The Todd Wade signing
Tony Hollings
Phillip Buchanan
Gary Walker and David Carr extension
Where is Robaire Smith?
Stacey Mack was awesome

Makes me vurp just thinking about it.
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The Todd Wade signing
Tony Hollings
Phillip Buchanan
Gary Walker and David Carr extension
Where is Robaire Smith?
Stacey Mack was awesome

Makes me vurp just thinking about it.

Man, no wonder we sucked!!!
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Really liked some of his later drafts.
Which later drafts are you referring to? If you are talking about 2006, see below.

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I've always wondered about that. I know we've discussed that many times on this board as to who's decision it was, but has there actually been anyone in the Texans organization that actually provided us with anything? Kubiac and Smith continue to draft defensive players high in the draft, so it wouldn't surprise me if it was Kubiac's decision.
McClain did a piece way back then explaining the process on Mario and that Kubiak made the decision. For straight out of the horse's mouth, Kubiak later said about Owen Daniels that Casserly had convinced him to take OD. That tells me the power relationship for that draft - Casserly making recommendations to Kubiak who made the decisions.

Prior to that there really aren't too many picks you can even think about pointing to as great analysis.

Pitts turned out pretty well but was taken one spot in front of Clinton Portis.
AJ turned out awesome but who would Casserly have taken if both Rogers and AJ were available?
DD was good, but Casserly didn't expect him to become what he did.
Dunta has been good, but there were a bunch of stars taken after him - Big Ben with the next pick although QB "wasn't the issue" at the time LOL, Vilma, Lee Evens, Tommie Harris, Vince Wilfork, Shawn Andrews, Will Smith, Stephen Jackson.

Almost more of a blind squirrel finding a nut than any indication of talent. Even more indicting is the number of players from his first four drafts still in the league. Out of 37 picks, 7 still in the league with 3 as starters.
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i think you're reaching a bit too hard there to prove your point, infantry. whether he knew certain players would be as good as they were or not (a point you can't really prove anyway), the point is he drafted them. he may have taken Charles Rogers over Andre Johnson...but, he didn't.
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