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Old 11-18-2009   #1
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Default The Kyle Shanahan to HC **rumors** have begun

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just wanted a little discussion from the SP here about coach Mike Shanahan.

As discussed by my GB Scott Hastings today on FM 104.3 the Fan, the CU Buffs could be looking for a new coach after the end of the season.

From what Scott has heard, the Buffs could be interested in Kyle Shanahan as head coach. Of course, Kyle is the OC for the Houston Texans (working under former Shanny disciple Gary Kubiak).

The real kicker is that the Buffs could want a father/son deal here, like the one that Tennessee got with the Kiffins.

Kyle - Buffs head coach
Mike - Buffs offensive coordinator
This was posted by a moderator and employee of footballguys.com, so it holds a bit more weight than your typical football forum rumor, but it is conjecture nonetheless.

That said, given the connections here I think there is a bit of substance to the rumor. And, if this happened, I can imagine the CU/Texans pipeline will begin flooding.

I don't think the OC affects our offense, given that the offense is really Kubiak's and the OC position has been a revolving door since he's been here. I also think that it is unlikely Mike chooses to be a coordinator in the NCAA when he'll likely get HC offers in the NFL, but I do think it's interesting that Kyle's already be bandied about as a potential HC.
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Default Re: The Kyle Shanahan to HC **rumors** have begun

I really can't see both of them working together like that.
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Default Re: The Kyle Shanahan to HC **rumors** have begun

hmm, dad working as OC under his son? Doubt it

Theres going to be a team that takes a chance on Mike, no need to put his son in charge
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Default Re: The Kyle Shanahan to HC **rumors** have begun

If the Bills did this, I would consider it one of the biggest mistakes in a long time, and that team has made a few really big ones!
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Default Re: The Kyle Shanahan to HC **rumors** have begun

not happening, just a baseless rumor
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Default Re: The Kyle Shanahan to HC **rumors** have begun

Maybe could have bought it if the "Dad" element wasn't thrown in. Mike isn't going to go from "desired NFL head coach candidate" to "college OC."
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Default Re: The Kyle Shanahan to HC **rumors** have begun

I would think Mike Shanahan would like to return to coaching in the NFL. With the productivity of the Texans offense, it seems likely that little Shanny could become a HC in the NFL at some point in the near future as well, especially with the success that Josh McDaniels is (or was) having with the Broncos this season. Of course he came from the Patriots while we're still the Texans.
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Default Re: The Kyle Shanahan to HC **rumors** have begun

This move doesn't make sense for either Shanahan.

Mike is going to land somewhere in the NFL next season.

Kyle is already at the Pro Level and I think he sticks this out to try and parlay it into a head coaching job in the NFL. Or, he loves being an o-coord and wants to stick with that and resist the allure of being a head coach.

It's been said by quite a few former NFL head coaches that being a head coach is a real grind. Kyle is in a good spot to have witnessed that with his dad being a HC for so long, and especially now that he's an o-coord under Kubiak.

I see this as the Buffs trying to lure the two guys to their program, since its in Colorado, and with the attraction of working together as a dad-son team.

IMO, this has little chance to become a substantive deal that those two guys would consider.
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Default Re: The Kyle Shanahan to HC **rumors** have begun

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Maybe could have bought it if the "Dad" element wasn't thrown in. Mike isn't going to go from "desired NFL head coach candidate" to "college OC."
Agreed. The fact that Colorado is interested in Kyle Shanahan is substantiated, though the idea that Mike would work with him in a Kiffin-arrangement is simple conjecture on Cecil Lammey's part.
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This move doesn't make sense for either Shanahan.

Mike is going to land somewhere in the NFL next season.

Kyle is already at the Pro Level and I think he sticks this out to try and parlay it into a head coaching job in the NFL. Or, he loves being an o-coord and wants to stick with that and resist the allure of being a head coach.

It's been said by quite a few former NFL head coaches that being a head coach is a real grind. Kyle is in a good spot to have witnessed that with his dad being a HC for so long, and especially now that he's an o-coord under Kubiak.

I see this as the Buffs trying to lure the two guys to their program, since its in Colorado, and with the attraction of working together as a dad-son team.

IMO, this has little chance to become a substantive deal that those two guys would consider.
Agreed, don't see either guy going college now. Either could be a NFL head coach, why give up that; especially Kyle who has yet to be the guy at the highest level?
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this rumor is way too cute to be true.
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hmm, dad working as OC under his son? Doubt it

Theres going to be a team that takes a chance on Mike, no need to put his son in charge
Lane Kiffin (HC) son, Monte Kiffin (DC) father....

(granted we're talking college football here, but.........)
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Lane Kiffin (HC), Monte Kiffin (DC)....

(granted we're talking college football here, but.........)
Yeah, but Montey is a little older than Mike, and has never really shown a desire to be a head coach.
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I really can't see both of them working together like that.
Agreed, it won't happen. Those 2 have too big of egos to work together. This is not the same as the Kiffin situation.
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Yeah, but Montey is a little older than Mike, and has never really shown a desire to be a head coach.
I'm not going to split hairs here, I merely pointed out where a father was an assistant coach under his Head Coach son.
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This move doesn't make sense for either Shanahan.

Mike is going to land somewhere in the NFL next season.

Kyle is already at the Pro Level and I think he sticks this out to try and parlay it into a head coaching job in the NFL. Or, he loves being an o-coord and wants to stick with that and resist the allure of being a head coach.

It's been said by quite a few former NFL head coaches that being a head coach is a real grind. Kyle is in a good spot to have witnessed that with his dad being a HC for so long, and especially now that he's an o-coord under Kubiak.

I see this as the Buffs trying to lure the two guys to their program, since its in Colorado, and with the attraction of working together as a dad-son team.

IMO, this has little chance to become a substantive deal that those two guys would consider.
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Default Re: The Kyle Shanahan to HC **rumors** have begun

One of my favorite things about watching NFL Classic Games, is when you see the sideline, and notice all the assistance coaches and see if you recongize any of them as current coaches. Good organizations breed good coaches, but hopefully we can keep Kyle.

For the love of all things holy, please dont bring back Joe Pendry .
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All of you Debbie Downers with the "it won't happen" posts are killing my hope here.
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I'm not going to split hairs here, I merely pointed out where a father was an assistant coach under his Head Coach son.
The difference here, is that Monte was never a successful Head Coach.

Mike Shanahan is not an offensive coordinator, he is a head coach, with a proven track record.

Taking a job as a college OC (we're talking about the Colorado Buffalos, not the Buffalo Bills) is a big, big step back.

Lane Kiffen going from a psuedo NFL head coach to Tennessee was more of a lateral move, and Monte going to work with his son, when he was talking about retiring anyway... isn't even close to "the same thing".
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Don't forget, when Kyle broke into the NFL his first job was in Tampa Bay with Gruden. He took that job purposefully avoiding Denver because he did not want to work with his father, he wanted to be his own coach. He wanted to be thought of independently of Mike and not just a puppet/extension of the man (who could blame him? remember Mike Shula?). It sure doesn't sound like he wants to coach with his father any time soon.
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