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Old 11-04-2009   #1
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Overall, the Colts are among the least penalized teams (39 penalties as compared to 43 for the Texans) in the league
and among the leaders in winning the TO battle (+6 as compared to +2 for the Texans).
Their running game is weaker than the Texans.
Their rush defense is about the same as ours.
Both teams have about the same strentgh of schedule so far; theirs, a little easier.
They are 7-0; we wished we can be 7-1.
I can say this with a straight face though:
The Colts have benefited a little more from opponents' bad plays and unforced errors.

Colts Defense

They pretty much stay with a base 4-3 and a Cover 2 shell.
They would show a 3 man front once in a while, but nothing exotic.
They don't blitz much.
They would zone dog some, stunt and twist some.
Basically, they look like a Richard Smith's vanilla defense.

Yet they currently rank first in points allowed (13ppg).
They had faced the Dolphins, the Cardinals, and the Niners.
These are decent offensive teams, but not great.
The Jags, Titans, Seahawks, and Rams belong to the last tier.

They rely mostly on a 4-man pass rush.
Freeney is having a pro-bowl type of year.
He looks as quick as ever on the edge.
And the spin move inside is as devastating as I've seen.
(Facing 3 rookies in 7 games helped.)
Mathis is enjoying a very very good season himself.
Foster is used both inside and outside, and he's having a pretty good season as well.
Their interior D is solid but not among the best.

The LBs are solid, but likewise, unspectacular.

The DBs are also solid.
They have avoided the big play for the most part,
benefiting from the play of the DEs and a few drop balls from the opponents.
(Hayden did get torched on a 50ydr to Avery when Sanders bought the play fake.)
Sanders has just returned and is still getting his feet set.
The rookie 3rd rounder Powers is playing well for them when he had the chance.
But I'm surprised teams haven't challenged him much.
He's only 5'9
Hayden might be kept out another game

So far, the Colts D had played clean.
Except for that 50yd pass to Avery, they pretty much only allowed another big play, a 64yd TD run to Gore.
It was a draw play in which 2 of their LBs were plugging the wrong gap.

I like for us to run at them.
Let our tackles, guards, and TEs take turn beating up Freeney and Mathis.
Cut block them some, including with the receivers.
I hope D.Brown would attack Freeney a little more aggressively
instead of staying back and waiting for his attack.
Same thing for Winston and our guards.
Take it to them, beat them to the punch.

They can't stay with our receivers, so that part of the game should always be available for us.
But we also need to play keep away from Manning.
They will give us the short routes, so Schaub needs to take them and not trying to do too much.
Be patient.
If we play our game and keep the penalties and turnovers down, we can move the ball on them.

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Good stuff. There is alot of pressure for Quinn to do well. If we can stop the run out of nickle, we stand a MUCH better chance. Offensivly, we need to use the screen game to slow down Freeney and Mathis. If you can make them hesitate, I like our chances. Also, hit Peyton as much as you can get away with. Nothing cheap, but make him get up.
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Overall, the Colts are among the least penalized teams (39 penalties as compared to 43 for the Texans) in the league
and among the leaders in winning the TO battle (+6 as compared to +2 for the Texans).
Their running game is weaker than the Texans.
Their rush defense is about the same as ours.
Both teams have about the same strentgh of schedule so far; theirs, a little easier.
They are 7-0; we wished we can be 7-1.
I can say this with a straight face though:
The Colts have benefited a little more from opponents' bad plays and unforced errors.

Colts Defense

They pretty much stay with a base 4-3 and a Cover 2 shell.
They would show a 3 man front once in a while, but nothing exotic.
They don't blitz much.
They would zone dog some, stunt and twist some.
Basically, they look like a Richard Smith's vanilla defense.

Yet they currently rank first in points allowed (13ppg).
They had faced the Dolphins, the Cardinals, and the Niners.
These are decent offensive teams, but not great.
The Jags, Titans, Seahawks, and Rams belong to the last tier.

They rely mostly on a 4-man pass rush.
Freeney is having a pro-bowl type of year.
He looks as quick as ever on the edge.
And the spin move inside is as devastating as I've seen.
(Facing 3 rookies in 7 games helped.)
Mathis is enjoying a very very good season himself.
Foster is used both inside and outside, and he's having a pretty good season as well.
Their interior D is solid but not among the best.

The LBs are solid, but likewise, unspectacular.

The DBs are also solid.
They have avoided the big play for the most part,
benefiting from the play of the DEs and a few drop balls from the opponents.
(Hayden did get torched on a 50ydr to Avery when Sanders bought the play fake.)
Sanders has just returned and is still getting his feet set.
The rookie 3rd rounder Powers is playing well for them when he had the chance.
But I'm surprised teams haven't challenged him much.
He's only 5'9
Hayden might be kept out another game

So far, the Colts D had played clean.
Except for that 50yd pass to Avery, they pretty much only allowed another big play, a 64yd TD run to Gore.
It was a draw play in which 2 of their LBs were plugging the wrong gap.

I like for us to run at them.
Let our tackles, guards, and TEs take turn beating up Freeney and Mathis.
Cut block them some, including with the receivers.
I hope D.Brown would attack Freeney a little more aggressively
instead of staying back and waiting for his attack.
Same thing for Winston and our guards.
Take it to them, beat them to the punch.

They can't stay with our receivers, so that part of the game should always be available for us.
But we also need to play keep away from Manning.
They will give us the short routes, so Schaub needs to take them and not trying to do too much.
Be patient.
If we play our game and keep the penalties and turnovers down, we can move the ball on them.

Thanks 76Texan... awesome stuff.

I was under the impression that this defense was more aggressive and did more blitzing, tending to move away from Cover 2 now that Meeks is gone. Is that not the case? I actually haven't watched much of them but that is the scouting reports I've heard previous to yours.
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Worth noting as well the injuries to their secondary.
I like what you're saying about attacking their DE's with support.
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GQ should be familiar with Collie since they both played in the MWC against each other, for what its worth.
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The thing that I have noticed is that a defense has to make Manning run backwards, or make him throw while getting touched/hit.

How many times have you seen him writhing in pain on the field, or having to be helped to the sideline after a play? You don't. He will make throws before he wants to, and he will throw at receivers' feet, if someone gets in his grill.

But this has to be done while our LBs and DBs play man-to-man. If we get in his face and hurry him, but play a zone against the WRs/TEs/RBs, he still puts the ball in an open spot on the field for his guys to go and grab.

I swear, if we come out and play zone against him...I'm going to throw my shoe at the TV. If we get burned in man, so be it. But you dang sure know you're gonna' get beat playing zone against the guy.
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Our run game and screen passes will be very important this game, we need to execute them well or Schaub will be forced to throw under pressure all game. It is also extremely important to play well at the start and not let the Colts get a couple of early scores. If we are forced to play catch-up, Freeney will have a field day as we would be forced to go with mostly passing plays to try and catch up. We really need good playcalling from the sidelines too.
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Thanks 76Texan... awesome stuff.

I was under the impression that this defense was more aggressive and did more blitzing, tending to move away from Cover 2 now that Meeks is gone. Is that not the case? I actually haven't watched much of them but that is the scouting reports I've heard previous to yours.
Yeah, but they hardly blitzed us at all ever.
So now they do blitz a little more, it means "more agressive" but they still don't blitz much. They bring more zone dogs but nothing as strong as we've been doing. When they stunted Freeney inside, it only makes him less efficient.

I can go back and count them blitzes, but I don't think they do it much.
They know we're pretty good against a normal blitz anyway.
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GQ should be familiar with Collie since they both played in the MWC against each other, for what its worth.
Yeah, Collie is playing well for them.

I agree that we should do anything possible to make their DEs work hard for the money!
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This is the first time that I semi-like our LT matchup vs. Freeney and our nickle D vs. their 3 WR/no huddle offense. They still have the advantage in both areas but we aren't the red headed step child in that regard anymore.
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This is the first time that I semi-like our LT matchup vs. Freeney and our nickle D vs. their 3 WR/no huddle offense. They still have the advantage in both areas but we aren't the red headed step child in that regard anymore.
I think Duane still has his work cut out for him and we need him to have a good game.
Schaub and the other guys need to help him out, too!
But yeah, there's less concern there.

It's amazing how, after a shaky start, Quin had now sent Bennett to the dog house, and relegated Reeves to nickel duty.
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Yeah, Collie is playing well for them.

I agree that we should do anything possible to make their DEs work hard for the money!
I went back and did a quick count for the last 2 games.

The Colts blitzed 7 times against the Rams and 6 times against the Niners.
That's 13 times in 58 pass attempts (22.41% of the time).

That was about the same as we did last year in the first half of the season last year, but quite a whole lot less than what we did in the second half (I can't recall for sure but it was at least 30% of the time.)
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This is the first time that I semi-like our LT matchup vs. Freeney and our nickle D vs. their 3 WR/no huddle offense. They still have the advantage in both areas but we aren't the red headed step child in that regard anymore.
I like Duane B. a lot but if we don't scheme to get him help against Freeney it's going to be a mistake. You can not leave Freeney one on one against any LT in the league, he's about as good as it gets at the DE right now, right up there with Reggie White IMHO.

Put a OL in the backfield if we have to on passing downs to help with him, but we can't let the DE just light us up cause the best way to stop Matt, is to get pressure on him, he moves like a snail, and we don't need him taking huge shots.

Duanes come a long way but man I don't think the matchup is in our favor at all.
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I went back and did a quick count for the last 2 games.

The Colts blitzed 7 times against the Rams and 6 times against the Niners.
That's 13 times in 58 pass attempts (22.41% of the time).

That was about the same as we did last year in the first half of the season last year, but quite a whole lot less than what we did in the second half (I can't recall for sure but it was at least 30% of the time.)
Why should the Colts blitz when they can get there with 4? They're 5th in the league in sacks (20). We're 29th (11)
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I hope D.Brown would attack Freeney a little more aggressively
instead of staying back and waiting for his attack.
DBrown has played him twice already.. I think he'll do fine.

Say do you have NFL ticket or something?

& do you have anything on their special teams?
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DBrown has played him twice already.. I think he'll do fine.

Say do you have NFL ticket or something?

& do you have anything on their special teams?
I don't have NFL ticket, but I have pretty much every NFL games this year in stock and more than twice as many college games (tenyardtorrents.com and a few others)
I just don't have enough time to wacth them, LOL!

Colts ST also solid but unspectacular.
They just play percentage football is all.
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I don't have NFL ticket, but I have pretty much every NFL games this year in stock and more than twice as many college games (tenyardtorrents.com and a few others)
I just don't have enough time to wacth them, LOL!

Colts ST also solid but unspectacular.
They just play percentage football is all.
I use those sites, too. I still have the first big Kubiak-led Texans
road win, Carolina '07, stored somewhere. That's still a fun game
to watch. It was Schaub's first season as starter, proving himself
to the defensive leaders (Dunta, Demeco.) Also, K-Dub was a huge
part of that comeback. The Texans were down 3 touchdowns and
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After Vernon Davis torched us, who covers Dallas Clark and in what scheme?
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Two keys: mask the blitz, and eat up clock while you score.

Manning is the best at the "double snap count". He does a fake snap count to try to read the blitzes, then backs out, calls the audible, and lines back up under center and calls the "real" count. If you mask the blitzes well, you can hurry him and maybe make a play.

The most important thing, though, is to keep him off the field. If the run game isn't working, get the short pass game going. This is where not having OD could hurt. If Dreessen can step up and be a go-to guy, we have a real chance at being in this game at the end. The Colts are primed for an upset.

I'll call it Texans 31, Colts 24.
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My son and I toss the old pigskin around pretty much everyday. He says I throw like a girl and when he drops it, I tell him he catches like Jacoby Jones. He does not find it as funny as I do.
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