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Old 10-27-2009   #1
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Greetings Texans fans. We don't ever play against you guys (first time since JP Losman's starting debut in 2005, I believe), so I don't know much of what do expect. Here's what I do know:

Matt Schaub is a second tier quarterback who's itching to breakthrough.

He's fortunate to have Daniels and Johnson as both are pass-catching freaks.

Johnson might be out with his chest injury. (No complaints her)

Slaton is young and unreliable, but could be dangerous.

I used to hear a lot about DeMeco Ryans, no so much of late.

Mario Williams is a beast, and we suck on the outside of the OLine, so that might be the difference maker.

So what's the rub, Texans fans? Can your OLine create holes to run against us? We're slim at linebacker, and got absolutely obliterated two weeks ago by the NYJ run attack. Should we be worried about yours?

With rookie Jairus Byrd at safety, our secondary has been airtight. How is your pass protection, and with Johnson potentially out, does this weaken one of your strongest (if not THE strongest) aspects of your game?

Fitzpatrick DEFINITELY makes things harder on defenses than Edwards did. How do you guys expect to cover Evans and Owens, and still be run conscious?

Your special teams- usually you only notice them if they're super good, or super bad. Where does yours fall?

Again, hardly ever see you guys, so I'm just curious what to be looking for come Sunday.

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I think we test your secondary more than anyone else, as we have ALOT of weapons. If our ground game gets rolling, it could be a VERY long game. T.O and Evans are worry some, but I'm not to terrible scared. The weather could hinder us alot, since we like the intermediate/deep passing game.
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Hey we didn't perform too horribly in that Green Bay game last year. Schaub grew up in Penn if I remember correctly, so he's played a few times in the cold. I think we see an improvement in the running game this Sunday as long as Slaton hangs on to the ball. I'd also like to see more of those short check down passes to him, he seems to be doing pretty well with those this year.
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Greetings Texans fans. We don't ever play against you guys (first time since JP Losman's starting debut in 2005, I believe), so I don't know much of what do expect. Here's what I do know:

Matt Schaub is a second tier quarterback who's itching to breakthrough.

He's fortunate to have Daniels and Johnson as both are pass-catching freaks.

Johnson might be out with his chest injury. (No complaints her)

Slaton is young and unreliable, but could be dangerous.

I used to hear a lot about DeMeco Ryans, no so much of late.

Mario Williams is a beast, and we suck on the outside of the OLine, so that might be the difference maker.

So what's the rub, Texans fans? Can your OLine create holes to run against us? We're slim at linebacker, and got absolutely obliterated two weeks ago by the NYJ run attack. Should we be worried about yours?

With rookie Jairus Byrd at safety, our secondary has been airtight. How is your pass protection, and with Johnson potentially out, does this weaken one of your strongest (if not THE strongest) aspects of your game?

Fitzpatrick DEFINITELY makes things harder on defenses than Edwards did. How do you guys expect to cover Evans and Owens, and still be run conscious?

Your special teams- usually you only notice them if they're super good, or super bad. Where does yours fall?

Again, hardly ever see you guys, so I'm just curious what to be looking for come Sunday.

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Welcome and thanks for stopping in. Houston has a long history which you may know through the Oilers but a thread on this MB recently was talking about the Houston Gambler days of the old USFL. You might find that interesting as Bills' former super star Jim Kelly got his start on that team before heading for history making days in the cold North.

1. Schaub stats are sky rocketing almost crazily & as most of his fans hoped, if the Oline can keep him on his feet, he might just be an upper level QB. He is doing better with sailing the ball out of bounds than eating it but last game imo both sacks were his decision. It is helpful that stubborn Gary has allowed the passing game to open as we do not have a RB on roster that can move the ball.

2. Supposedly Johnson will play but he had coughed blood from the now diagnosed "Lung contusion". Personally, I'd have him on sidelines until I knew we could not beat your team without him.

3. Slaton is as you've described. Please tell your team that he no longer fumbles and they can take that off their game plan.

4. Demeco is quietly having an outstanding season. Hype is going to rookie Cushing & rightfully so, but Ryans should have a pro bowl season.

5.Williams coming off and injury but is still significant. We need Smith to crank it up opposite Mario as he was signed to do.

You need to know that we play only 1/2 of a game. It is up to you to figure out which half.
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Our special teams are probably one of the best units in the league overall.

Our interior O-line play has been horrid in the running game. We lost 2 starters, however.... we have started to show SOME signs of life in the running game here recently. Maybe your D is just the thing we need here.

Our pass protect is decent, and our weapons are all over the place.

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Greetings Texans fans. We don't ever play against you guys (first time since JP Losman's starting debut in 2005, I believe), so I don't know much of what do expect. Here's what I do know:
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Matt Schaub is a second tier quarterback who's itching to breakthrough.
Second tier quarterback that is leading the league in yards and TD's and is 4th in QB rating.

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He's fortunate to have Daniels and Johnson as both are pass-catching freaks.
You forgot Kevin Walter, Jacoby Jones, and Andre Davis


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Johnson might be out with his chest injury. (No complaints her)
Knowing AJ, if there's a chance he can go, he's going.

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Slaton is young and unreliable, but could be dangerous.
He's fumbling way too much, but I really think our rushing woes are the guards and center positions.

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I used to hear a lot about DeMeco Ryans, no so much of late.
Same 'ol Meco. Racking up tackles only he's playing second fiddle to Brian Cushing in that regard.

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Mario Williams is a beast, and we suck on the outside of the OLine, so that might be the difference maker.
Mario will bring it. He's been really good on the run this season.

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So what's the rub, Texans fans? Can your OLine create holes to run against us? We're slim at linebacker, and got absolutely obliterated two weeks ago by the NYJ run attack. Should we be worried about yours?
We'll be able to run it just enough. I don't think your secondary will prepared for the arial attack y'all will see, though.


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With rookie Jairus Byrd at safety, our secondary has been airtight. How is your pass protection, and with Johnson potentially out, does this weaken one of your strongest (if not THE strongest) aspects of your game?
Look at Schaub's numbers. Seriously though, he's been sacked 12 times which is middle of the pack. The line is pretty young, really.

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Fitzpatrick DEFINITELY makes things harder on defenses than Edwards did. How do you guys expect to cover Evans and Owens, and still be run conscious?
We got lit up by Fitzpatrick when he was a rookie ram.

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Your special teams- usually you only notice them if they're super good, or super bad. Where does yours fall?
We have two threats on special teams KR Andre Davis and PR Jacoby Jones.

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Again, hardly ever see you guys, so I'm just curious what to be looking for come Sunday.

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Welcome Billsfan6. Others have already answered your questions, but my main concern is our running game. We have yet to have a "breakout" ground game this season when it appeared it would be one of our strengths in 2008. Steve Slaton is still a game-breaker in the passing game but appears to be thinking too much when running the ball. Which could be the reason why he's fumbling this year.

Schaub has been terrific in terrible conditions (Packers game last season when the temp. was in the single digits and threw for 400 yards) so I wouldn't count on him coming out flat because he plays for a "warm-weather team". He grew up in PA.

AJ not being at 100%, he'll still own your secondary.

Texans' run defense has been outstanding these past 4 games. Our first three were terrible but all of our regular starters are healthy and are buying into the new defensive coordinator's philosophy. Not a new scheme as the previous coordinator, just more of an attacking style.

Pass defense has improved but was a liability in the second half last game against the 49ers. I'm not really worried about this because it has been pretty decent all season. Both our starting corners are back at full strength. SS Pollard was an absolute steal when the Chiefs released him. FS Eugene Wilson looks for picks.

Consider it a quality win if you guys can beat us because we're playing some pretty good football as of late, but don't hold your breath.
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Greetings Texans fans. We don't ever play against you guys (first time since JP Losman's starting debut in 2005, I believe), so I don't know much of what do expect. Here's what I do know:

Matt Schaub is a second tier quarterback who's itching to breakthrough.

So he's going to improve from #1 in yards and TDs to #0? Is that even possible? Wouldn't the universe implode?

He's fortunate to have Daniels and Johnson as both are pass-catching freaks.

Andre Johnson isn't human.

Johnson might be out with his chest injury. (No complaints her)

Johnson will play.

Slaton is young and unreliable, but could be dangerous.

Other than fumbles our running game is mostly blamed on the O-line. With any room to operate Slaton is really hard to bring down by a single defender.

I used to hear a lot about DeMeco Ryans, no so much of late.

He quietly goes about his business as a great MLB, but his numbers are down because of the two really good OLBs playing next to him stealing all his tackles.

Mario Williams is a beast, and we suck on the outside of the OLine, so that might be the difference maker.

Williams is injured and has been really ineffective as a pass rusher for the past few weeks because of it. He is still an immovable object in the running game.

So what's the rub, Texans fans? Can your OLine create holes to run against us? We're slim at linebacker, and got absolutely obliterated two weeks ago by the NYJ run attack. Should we be worried about yours?

No. The O-line has stunk it up run blocking this year, even against bad run defenses.

With rookie Jairus Byrd at safety, our secondary has been airtight. How is your pass protection, and with Johnson potentially out, does this weaken one of your strongest (if not THE strongest) aspects of your game?

The line gives Schaub a lot of time on most passing attempts, and when they don't he usually gets rid of the ball even with a guy in his face. Even if Johnson isn't in the game the Texans are loaded with targets for him to pass to. Open Daniels, Steve Slaton, Kevin Walter, JJ, and even Dreesen and Davis sometimes.

Fitzpatrick DEFINITELY makes things harder on defenses than Edwards did. How do you guys expect to cover Evans and Owens, and still be run conscious?

Fitzpatrick is terrible, and has been for a long time. He has one good game a year to fool teams into keeping him on the roster, but then he stinks it up. Don't get your hopes up. I imagine they'll cover Evans and TO with a corner.

Your special teams- usually you only notice them if they're super good, or super bad. Where does yours fall?

Jones is a great punt returner, but occasionally muffs one when he has to adjust at the last minute. Davis was a good kick returner, but now just runs into the nearest defender.

Again, hardly ever see you guys, so I'm just curious what to be looking for come Sunday.

Go Bills!
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His locker room presence is tremendous and extremely significant. I'm glad we have him but he's very easily upgradeable.
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Thanks for all the info, Texans Fans!

Give me an hour or two to respond, because it seems some of you know as little about the Bills as I know about the Texans!
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Anderson isn't all that. He does catch a perfectly thrown football well but I don't think I've ever seen him run after the catch. He's simply too small and completely lacks the strength to shed tacklers.

His locker room presence is tremendous and extremely significant. I'm glad we have him but he's very easily upgradeable.
Didn't Anderson just sign a 2 year deal to keep him from going elsewhere as a FA? He must not be as easy to replace as you indicate.
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Anderson isn't all that. He does catch a perfectly thrown football well but I don't think I've ever seen him run after the catch. He's simply too small and completely lacks the strength to shed tacklers.

His locker room presence is tremendous and extremely significant. I'm glad we have him but he's very easily upgradeable.
Well for example he had that 65 yarder against Oakland last year.
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Fitzpatrick DEFINITELY makes things harder on defenses than Edwards did. How do you guys expect to cover Evans and Owens, and still be run conscious?
Real easily. The same way every team has. Evans is nothing but a deep threat and that's all he's ever been really. TO is old now and is pouting his way into the off season already. He's already called it quits for the most part.

As far as the Bills running game, well what is there to watch out for? The coaching staff over there doesn't have a clue what they're doing. They're not even playing the better RB once again this year. Fred Jackson has been second fiddle to Lynch again, who is very overrated and Fred Jackson has clearly out played him, so I don't see an offensive game plan being used from the Bills to really worry about honestly.

I'm a lot more worried about the Bills defense than anything else. THe Texans offense has been rolling on everyone though, and I'm pretty sure that they'll do just fine once again against the BIlls. This should be a for sure win.
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We got lit up by Fitzpatrick as a ram but totally dismantled him last year in Cincinatti.

Im not worried about your offense, but your pass defense scares the crap out me. We are a pass first, mid to long range passing offense that may have trouble in Buffalo.

This game comes down to turnovers. If you guys win the turnover battle, you may win the game
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Didn't Anderson just sign a 2 year deal to keep him from going elsewhere as a FA? He must not be as easy to replace as you indicate.
Yet it was easy for us to plunk down a couple million for David Anderson yet we're battling with Ryans and Daniels as well as Robinson. I think this is a FO issue that gives me butterflies. I don't think they're choosing their battles too well.
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