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Old 10-22-2009   #1
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Walters.com Matt McGuire Oct 22nd 3 round mock for Houston has them going from pick #13 to #19. I am not that motivated yet & moved them from #14 to #16. Anyways, it's Thursday and slow so it is something to read if you are interested.
http://walterfootball.com/draft2010matt.php

Round 1 #19 Jr. Joe Haden CB 5'11" 190lb Florida I'll be surprised if he is here.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=232013
Round 2 # 51 Vince Oghobaase DT 6'5" 305lbs Duke if Kubes is successful with "smaller" DTs this could be a very good selection.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2010&genpos=DT Some have him in 3rd and not being as impressive 09 as in 2008.

Round 3 # 82 Toby Gerhart RB 6'1" 235 lbs 4.55 where I had him originally but moved him up to 2nd round. Really surprised if he is taken this low.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2010&genpos=RB

I'd be very pleased with first 3 rounds going this way, even more so if we could get Thomas Austin OG/C/T in 4th and a FA DT with some weight. If DR is signed I can see Quinn moving to FS. Your thoughts?
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Walters.com Matt McGuire Oct 22nd 3 round mock for Houston has them going from pick #13 to #19. I am not that motivated yet & moved them from #14 to #16. Anyways, it's Thursday and slow so it is something to read if you are interested.
http://walterfootball.com/draft2010matt.php

Round 1 #19 Jr. Joe Haden CB 5'11" 190lb Florida I'll be surprised if he is here.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=232013
Round 2 # 51 Vince Oghobaase DT 6'5" 305lbs Duke if Kubes is successful with "smaller" DTs this could be a very good selection.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2010&genpos=DT Some have him in 3rd and not being as impressive 09 as in 2008.

Round 3 # 82 Toby Gerhart RB 6'1" 235 lbs 4.55 where I had him originally but moved him up to 2nd round. Really surprised if he is taken this low.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2010&genpos=RB

I'd be very pleased with first 3 rounds going this way, even more so if we could get Thomas Austin OG/C/T in 4th and a FA DT with some weight. If DR is signed I can see Quinn moving to FS. Your thoughts?
That does look good. Works for me.
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Round 1, Haden, great pick if we lose Dunta, no arguments from me.
Round2, Oghobaase, good pick and a player with alot of potential. I like the pick but I think we could do better with the pick by taking one of the top OG or FS.
Round3, Gerhart, I like the player but again feel that we could do better with the pick. Again a top ranked OG or FS.

I think we're going to need more than 1 O-lineman from this draft and I don't mean late round backup/developemental players. CB, OGx2, and FS are our top needs IMO. I think we should address DT in FA, we're not very good at picking DT's in the draft.
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I believe those were my picks 3 weeks ago?
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Round 1, Haden, great pick if we lose Dunta, no arguments from me.
Round2, Oghobaase, good pick and a player with alot of potential. I like the pick but I think we could do better with the pick by taking one of the top OG or FS.
Round3, Gerhart, I like the player but again feel that we could do better with the pick. Again a top ranked OG or FS.

I think we're going to need more than 1 O-lineman from this draft and I don't mean late round backup/developemental players. CB, OGx2, and FS are our top needs IMO. I think we should address DT in FA, we're not very good at picking DT's in the draft.
I think FS is a need also but what are your thoughts about moving Quinn to that position if DR is on roster next year, especially if we go CB in 1st?
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Matt McGuire is that you? How's it going dude!
Nope its me, rmartin65. But here is the link to my picks
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Nope its me, rmartin65. But here is the link to my picks
http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65514
Actually I did remember your post as we agreed on Gerhart and Austin. You had team picking #10, have you moved them down a bit?
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Actually I did remember your post as we agreed on Gerhart and Austin. You had team picking #10, have you moved them down a bit?
I hate adjusting rankings due to one game, but yea, I have. The Texans looked impressive (granted, my friend was only able to get me the first half of the game), and from what I have been hearing it continued. I have the Texans around 15 now.
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I hate adjusting rankings due to one game, but yea, I have. The Texans looked impressive (granted, my friend was only able to get me the first half of the game), and from what I have been hearing it continued. I have the Texans around 15 now.
Just curious, if Taylor Mays and Haden are available where ever Texans pick, who is your choice? As I am more leery of a rookie at CB than FS and I am astounded at Mays' skills & size I select Mays.
Having said that, if DR is on roster and I can see another tag if he does well remainder of this season, we could move Quinn to FS and go for a corner in 1st.
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Just curious, if Taylor Mays and Haden are available where ever Texans pick, who is your choice? As I am more leery of a rookie at CB than FS and I am astounded at Mays' skills & size I select Mays.
Having said that, if DR is on roster and I can see another tag if he does well remainder of this season, we could move Quinn to FS and go for a corner in 1st.
I would go with Mays. Haden is my favorite corner in the draft, but Mays is the better player and fills an area of need. I know Quinn is a little slower for a corner, but I would prefer to keep him there.
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Colin Cowherd, who is a bigtime Pac-10 homer, said on his show the other day that Taylor Mays is the most overrated player in the country.
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Colin Cowherd, who is a bigtime Pac-10 homer, said on his show the other day that Taylor Mays is the most overrated player in the country.
Oh, I do agree that he is overrated. I still think he is/will be a good player though. I think adding Mays to the secondary will give it some attitude. The defense will become more intense, as there will be enforcers at each level.
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Oh, I do agree that he is overrated. I still think he is/will be a good player though. I think adding Mays to the secondary will give it some attitude. The defense will become more intense, as there will be enforcers at each level.
I agree with you. The thing is that when I watch USC play, he never seems to make a whole lot of plays besides the occasional big hit on a WR. He's nothing like Berry. I've never watched Tenn play and not noticed the guy make a couple of wow plays every game. Its a fool's dream to think the Texans even have a shot at this guy, but man would he look good in Liberty White!
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I agree with you. The thing is that when I watch USC play, he never seems to make a whole lot of plays besides the occasional big hit on a WR. He's nothing like Berry. I've never watched Tenn play and not noticed the guy make a couple of wow plays every game. Its a fool's dream to think the Texans even have a shot at this guy, but man would he look good in Liberty White!
Totally agree. Berry is out of this world, he always makes plays.
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I don't mind Joe Haden being our first round selection (if he's there) but I also like Patrick Robinson out of FSU (maybe we can grab this guy in the second round).

I also like for us to pick up some massive offensive linemen and replace our current Center. There are some solid interior linemen in this draft!
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I think FS is a need also but what are your thoughts about moving Quinn to that position if DR is on roster next year, especially if we go CB in 1st?
I'd have no problem trying Quin or McCain at FS but for some unknown reason I don't think Kubiak likes moving players away from their drafted position. McCain is faster and I think might actually be a better FS if given the chance but I don't think either player will ever be given a shot at FS.

I agree that Mays is overrated and don't think he possesses the ball skills to be a great FS, I think he'd make a better SS. I think that if Mays plays FS he'll be average to good but may actually take a couple years to develope into a very good/great FS. Berry is #1 as a coverage FS with great ball skills and speed but if you want someone almost as good, I think Morgan Burnett is 1a right behind Berry in terms of speed, tackling ability, ball skills, and playmaking ability. Burnett is almost as good as Berry.

I keep saying that if Dunta leaves we should take Joe Haden but now I'm thinking that even if Dunta stays by contract or tag, we should go ahead and take Haden anyway. You can never have to many good CB's and with quality depth at CB it would offer us options we haven't had before like possibly trading someone for players or picks cause all teams are always looking at CB's. We could then take a Safety in the 2nd round thus fixing our secondary in one draft. We'd keep Dunta giving us Reeves and Haden at CB as well, quality and depth and by taking a FS in the 2nd round we'd have quality at FS. I also wouldn't mind seeing the Texans try to trade back up into the lower 1st round after picking Joe Haden and try to get Morgan Burnett or maybe trade up into the upper 2nd round for Reshad Jones. Their are lots of available options for us to pursue but almost everything revolves around whether or not Dunta leaves of goes. It should get interesting after the season.
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Colin Cowherd, who is a bigtime Pac-10 homer, said on his show the other day that Taylor Mays is the most overrated player in the country.
I'm not arguing but based on what? Gut instinct? Some say his 40 was on a fast tract but this guy is huge for a FS/CB.
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Colin Cowherd, who is a bigtime Pac-10 homer, said on his show the other day that Taylor Mays is the most overrated player in the country.
He really hasn't developed the way a lot of people thought he would. At this point in the season I don't see why some people see him as a potential top 10 pick with his lack of playmaker ability, and undisciplined tackling.

I could see him being taken as a SS project in the late teens by a team that has an older starter there, but for the Texans I'd much rather have Haden.
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I don't mind Joe Haden being our first round selection (if he's there) but I also like Patrick Robinson out of FSU (maybe we can grab this guy in the second round).

I also like for us to pick up some massive offensive linemen and replace our current Center. There are some solid interior linemen in this draft!
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I think Robinson will be a first round selection.He should recover from ankle injury and finish strong. He will get a lot of TV exposure.
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