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Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
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C'mon Kubiak.
1) The Texans don't have the personnel to blow people out. We have the perfect Oline to be BLOWN OUT. You keep trying to power run the ball in the red zone expecting different results.
2) Chris Brown may be OUR power back, but he isn't a POWER BACK. He does not have a nose for the goal line. Doesn't FIGHT TO GET IN. I would rather see AJ run the wildcat but who wouldn't. You don't have to be big to be a good goal line back. It may help, but you need more.
3) Kubiak do not feel the definition of a successful is being able to run the ball 1 yard anytime you want to. We as fans will be happy with a win any way you get it. You have a team that can get in the position to WIN, you as a coach needs to UNDERSTAND YOUR TEAMS STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES and create plays that will make this team effective in the RED ZONE and throughout the game.
4) For someone who values the RUN GAME you sure don't try to bring any talented running backs in. You could have had BENSON, maybe TAYLOR, even Adrian Peterson during the draft, but showed absolutely no interest in any of them.
What is you problem.
5) You kept trotting Fred Bennett out expecting different results.
6) You keep thinking you can be successful with your undersized line.
7) KUBIAK READ THE ABOVE ABOUT INSANITY AGAIN. REALLY THINK ABOUT, HARD.

I think the problem is the fans can see that this team is capable of more,
BUT THE COACHING IS KEEPING THEM FROM REACHING THEIR FULL POTENTIAL. If the talent on the team was just bad then there would not be as big an uproar. thanks

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I see pitchforks and torches on the horizon.
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C'mon Kubiak.
1) The Texans don't have the personnel to blow people out. We have the perfect Oline to be BLOWN OUT.
2) Chris Brown may be OUR power back, but he isn't a POWER BACK. He does not have a nose for the goal line. Doesn't FIGHT TO GET IN. I would rather see AJ run the wildcat but who wouldn't. You don't have to be big to be a good goal line back. It may help, but you need more.
3) Kubiak do not feel the definition of a successful is being able to run the ball 1 yard anytime you want to. We as fans will be happy with a win any way you get it. You have a team that can get in the position to WIN, you as a coach needs to UNDERSTAND YOUR TEAMS STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES and create plays that will make this team effective in the RED ZONE and throughout the game.
4) For someone who values the RUN GAME you sure don't try to bring any talented running backs in. You could have had BENSON, maybe TAYLOR, even Adrian Peterson during the draft, but showed absolutely no interest in any of them.
What is you problem.
5) You kept trotting Fred Bennett out expecting different results.
6) KUBIAK READ THE ABOVE ABOUT INSANITY AGAIN. REALLY THINK ABOUT, HARD.

I think the problem is the fans can see that this team is capable of more,
BUT THE COACHING IS KEEPING THEM FROM REACHING THEIR FULL POTENTIAL. If the talent on the team was just bad then their would not be as big an uproar. thanks
That's not true at all. People would complain about that as well, hell....look at your own post. You're complaining about the talent of some of our players. It's human nature, people are going to complain. We could have been winning these close games and some would still complain that we should have not had them so close. We should have had blowouts, etc. Complainers complain.....period.
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You are probably right. But I would not be focusing on the coaching decisions as much because they would not be a major factor in determining the outcome of individual games. This team finally has a chance to compete and COACHING DECISIONS CAN AND HAVE BEEN CRITICAL IN DETERMINING THE OUTCOME.
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I don't have a problem with not going RB in FA, but if you want to be this unstopable running team, them make the picks in the draft. Build that way. Don't build a team that uses smallish Linemen who are better pass blockers then try and become a hammer at the hardest part of the field to be the hammer. Makes no damn sense. He keep arrogantly shaking his fist proclaiming we're gonna keep plugging away just like we are. It's getting tired.
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Continuing to point out the faults of the coach and expecting different reactions is insanity
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Gary: That's not a bad idea.
Bush: What?
Gary: Making a Defensive Tackle. Actually making a Defensive Tackle. Like Frankenstein... except cuter.
Bush: [stands up] You're serious?
[Gary grabs Bush by the collar and pulls him towards him]
Gary: Look me in the eye. Do I look serious?
Bush: Gary Kubiak, that's-that's Fangio shit! That's sick! I am not digging up dead DTs!
[Gary puts his hand over Bush's mouth and sits him down on the training table]
Gary: No, I'm not talking about digging up dead DTs, Frank. I'm talking about your system, *****, your computer!

[Gary is chanting incoherently. Bush seemed very confused by his best friend's odd behaviour. They are both wearing bras on their heads]
Bush: Gary?... By the way, why are we wearing bras on our heads?
Gary: [hesitates] Ceremonial.

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The definition of insanity is to keep running Alex Gibbs guys in Alex Gibbs plays and expecting a different result.
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Gary: That's not a bad idea.
Bush: What?
Gary: Making a Defensive Tackle. Actually making a Defensive Tackle. Like Frankenstein... except cuter.
Bush: [stands up] You're serious?
[Gary grabs Bush by the collar and pulls him towards him]
Gary: Look me in the eye. Do I look serious?
Bush: Gary Kubiak, that's-that's Fangio shit! That's sick! I am not digging up dead DTs!
[Gary puts his hand over Bush's mouth and sits him down on the training table]
Gary: No, I'm not talking about digging up dead DTs, Frank. I'm talking about your system, *****, your computer!

[Gary is chanting incoherently. Bush seemed very confused by his best friend's odd behaviour. They are both wearing bras on their heads]
Bush: Gary?... By the way, why are we wearing bras on our heads?
Gary: [hesitates] Ceremonial.

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1) The Texans don't have the personnel to blow people out. We have the perfect Oline to be BLOWN OUT. You keep trying to power run the ball in the red zone expecting different results.
Yes we do. The Oilers did it with the run n shoot, the Rams did it in the late 90's. The Cardinals did it last year. What we don't have is the personnel to control the clock the way most coaches would like. And they only tried "power running" a couple of times. There were two passes on that goalline stand that people seem to keep overlooking. Oh, and there's the fact that it had worked perfectly on the first try a couple of quarters earlier.

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3) Kubiak do not feel the definition of a successful is being able to run the ball 1 yard anytime you want to. We as fans will be happy with a win any way you get it. You have a team that can get in the position to WIN, you as a coach needs to UNDERSTAND YOUR TEAMS STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES and create plays that will make this team effective in the RED ZONE and throughout the game.
We only failed once in the red zone all day. 3 touchdowns and a field goal try should be enough to win damn near any game. The biggest problem was the defensive breakdown in the last 2 minutes of the first half.


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What is you problem.
Adrian Peterson and Cedric Benson couldn't run behind this line. Steve Slaton had as good a rookie year last year as any in the last decade. Chris Brown is stellar behind a good line when he's healthy. We have "talented running backs". What we don't have is an O-line that can run block.

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Was there a Fred Bennett sighting this past Sunday? Because all I saw was Dunta getting burned, Jacques Reeves playing out of his mind, and Glover Quin laying some serious wood.

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They were very successful with it last year. Slaton had something like 1800 yards with the exact same line. Why they can't run it is puzzling. And if being undersized is such a "problem", how do you explain the sensational pass blocking these guys are providing? I don't think it's so much the size as the technique. Something has changed this year and I don't think anybody has quite put their fingers on why it's not working.

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Give me a break! I think the fans are just overevaluating the "talent" on this team. Nobody outside of Houston (unless they're diehard NFL fans) has a clue about a single player on this team besides Andre Johnson. You hear Mario's name mentioned, but usually only because of the 2006 draft. The word I think you're looking for is POTENTIAL, not TALENT. The coaching is not PREVENTING them from reaching potential. Please! You're talking about some of the greatest position coaches in the history of this league on this team's staff. They're not "holding anyone back". That's just ridiculous.

I still think most of the blame for the shortcomings of this team are on the individual players, NOT the coaches.
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When I talk about Blow out, I am talking about blowing the other team off the ball and running the ball at will. I agree we possibly could put alot of points on the board, but this staff won't commit the whole game to doing this. I think this is a mistake.

Fred Bennett was on the field for the 1st 3 games and preseason. Do you really need that much time to see what you have? I agree not on field last week, but c'mon the coaching staff needs to open their eyes.

Was last week the only game you have watched this season? They can't run the ball at will.

We will just disagree on your assessment on us having talented running backs. Slaton was a surprise and I think he is a very good back, especially for the purpose he was originaly drafted for, change of pace. But as a whole I think we are below average on running backs. I think Adrian Peterson or Benson or Taylor would make a difference on this team. We will get a first hand look this weekend on Benson.

Undersized line was focused more towards us trying to force our will on a team , running the ball down their throat.

I do agree with you on the overall talent not being good. We are below avg in the trenches, average/above LBs, Below in secondary, above avg receivers etc. That said I think we have enough this year to compete for a playoff spot. I think coaching can make a difference in the outcome of the game/season. This is the 1st year I think the Texans had/have a chance for the playoffs and it is sad to see bad coaching decisions making a difference.

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C'mon Kubiak.
1) The Texans don't have the personnel to blow people out. We have the perfect Oline to be BLOWN OUT. You keep trying to power run the ball in the red zone expecting different results.
2) Chris Brown may be OUR power back, but he isn't a POWER BACK. He does not have a nose for the goal line. Doesn't FIGHT TO GET IN. I would rather see AJ run the wildcat but who wouldn't. You don't have to be big to be a good goal line back. It may help, but you need more.
3) Kubiak do not feel the definition of a successful is being able to run the ball 1 yard anytime you want to. We as fans will be happy with a win any way you get it. You have a team that can get in the position to WIN, you as a coach needs to UNDERSTAND YOUR TEAMS STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES and create plays that will make this team effective in the RED ZONE and throughout the game.
4) For someone who values the RUN GAME you sure don't try to bring any talented running backs in. You could have had BENSON, maybe TAYLOR , even Adrian Peterson during the draft, but showed absolutely no interest in any of them.
What is you problem.
5) You kept trotting Fred Bennett out expecting different results.
6) You keep thinking you can be successful with your undersized line.
7) KUBIAK READ THE ABOVE ABOUT INSANITY AGAIN. REALLY THINK ABOUT, HARD.

I think the problem is the fans can see that this team is capable of more,
BUT THE COACHING IS KEEPING THEM FROM REACHING THEIR FULL POTENTIAL. If the talent on the team was just bad then there would not be as big an uproar. thanks
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All said I still think it is a coin flip on whether I think it would be better to get rid of him and start over. The rest of the season will decide this. I have not given up on him, but he surely has not won me over this season. I was pro Kubiak at beginning of season but now I am ambivalent. Big questions
1) Inability to get team ready to play. Both beginning of season against Jets and it seems at the beginning of each game. Can he motivate?
2) Are the players tired of his style? Have they bought into his idea for the team? Are the players tired of Smith? Are they really giving 100%. I know some players are , but you really need all the players to give their all, especially when you are almost there like the Texans are.
3) Overall game plans and play selection on offense.
4) Evaluation and usage of the players, strengths and weaknesses of the team as a whole and getting the best outcome you can get based on them.
But really who wants to hear any more. I'm DONE.
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I don't think it matters, which is more scary, IMO.
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Adrian Peterson and Cedric Benson couldn't run behind this line. Steve Slaton had as good a rookie year last year as any in the last decade. Chris Brown is stellar behind a good line when he's healthy. We have "talented running backs". What we don't have is an O-line that can run block.
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They were very successful with it last year. Slaton had something like 1800 yards with the exact same line. Why they can't run it is puzzling. And if being undersized is such a "problem", how do you explain the sensational pass blocking these guys are providing? I don't think it's so much the size as the technique. Something has changed this year and I don't think anybody has quite put their fingers on why it's not working.
I think you just called yourself out in the same post.
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Eveything is going to be just fine. Expert John McClain said yesterday that Texans will be 4 & 4 midway. The offensive line and Slaton are doing just what they were hired to do, move the ball down the field to Red Zone. The line is comprised of pass blockers not run blockers. Slaton is behind last season but can catch up quick. We signed Brown to be the scoring back. He is not doing what coaches expected.
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1) Inability to get team ready to play. Both beginning of season against Jets and it seems at the beginning of each game. Can he motivate?
2) Are the players tired of his style? Have they bought into his idea for the team? Are the players tired of Smith? Are they really giving 100%. I know some players are , but you really need all the players to give their all, especially when you are almost there like the Texans are.
I've asked myself these same questions and I think he gets the team up for games, but not until their backs are up against the wall.

From what I can tell, his "kids" fight for him when the media and the fans pile on him.


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Hell, forget all that I say he's insane based solely on the fact that Andre isn't in the game in a lot of goal line situations.

I need Herm Edwards right now to get in Kubiaks face and ye'll "YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME. YOU PLAAAAY TO WIN THE GAME!!!"
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