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Default The Defense is starting to take some steps

Does anyone think that our defense is making progress? Yes, they weren't great today but I think they are starting to look better. Amobi looked pretty good... Our secondary looked a hell of alot better... And They weren't any big plays given up and they put some pressure on the Qb. They also stopped the run for the most part. We might have somwething here. I think it's baby steps but If the D gets stout and the O gets their act together.... Well, you never know....
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They sure looked like warm puppy piss in the first half. Unreal in the second half, go figure.
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Definately making strides. Inconsistent yes. They will suck ass on occasion but then other times they play brilliantly like in the 2nd half. Hopefully they find a way to play great all 4 quarters instead of just 2.
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Default Re: The Defense is starting to take some steps

We still only have one freaking interception as a team I think.

And what, we got one sack today? So that's like 3 so far this season?

A good defense sacks a QB and gets picks.
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I just looked at our overall stats and forgot Eugene Wilson did get a pick so we do have 2 whole picks as a team, yay.
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I thought Warner should have been called for intentional grounding when he got hit by Mario.
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Does anyone think that our defense is making progress? Yes, they weren't great today but I think they are starting to look better. Amobi looked pretty good... Our secondary looked a hell of alot better... And They weren't any big plays given up and they put some pressure on the Qb. They also stopped the run for the most part. We might have somwething here. I think it's baby steps but If the D gets stout and the O gets their act together.... Well, you never know....
Doesn't matter. It was a loss and scoreboard is all that counts so all further analysis is pointless.

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And what, we got one sack today? So that's like 3 so far this season?
5 going into today, 6 on the season - which is bottom third of the league. We had 2 INT's going into today.
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Doesn't matter. It was a loss and scoreboard is all that counts so all further analysis is pointless.

So why is this message board even here?
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Doesn't matter. It was a loss and scoreboard is all that counts so all further analysis is pointless.


So why is this message board even here?
I think he was being sarcastic.
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I think he was being sarcastic.
I guess it went over my drunk head...
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I think he was being sarcastic.
Yes, and now after violating my normal rule against coming in here on game day, I'm gone.
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Doesn't matter. It was a loss and scoreboard is all that counts so all further analysis is pointless.

Good thing you aren't our coach. Or maybe...is that you Gary?
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Default Re: The Defense is starting to take some steps

The defense is lukewarm to medium warm horsecrap. There are individual players with more sacks then our entire team.
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Default Re: The Defense is starting to take some steps

Amobi Okoye had another good game in a row. Barwin took a baby step. Antonio Smith continues to get pressure. Mario was clearly slowed by his shoulder, couldn't get under pads comfortably.
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The defense is lukewarm to medium warm horsecrap. There are individual players with more sacks then our entire team.
I can understand complaining about the oline, the head coach, even the QB (who put up great numbers). I really don't understand fans wanting to criticize this defense now. They have made major strides the past two weeks and shutout a very prolific offense on the road for an entire half. The Cardinals only converted 2 third downs the entire game: they gave up one fisrt down in the entire 2nd half, and had 4 3 and outs.

By the way, it's hard to have sacks when you are trailing the entire game. Most sacks come when QBs predictably throw from 7 step drops. The ineffectiveness of the offense in the first half had a lot to do with the lack of sacks. If Warner was in a position where he had to make plays late, then there would be some sacks. Instead, the pressure led to him throwing the ball away (a lot) in the second half.

I'd say it was a darn good defensive effort for a team starting 2 rookies and only 5 games in to a new scheme. They are getting pressure, laying punishing hits, making plays, stopping the run, and getting the ball back to the offense.

Arizona had 11 posessions of consequence and scored 3 times. 340 total yards. 1 turnover. 5 3 and outs, 1 Turnover... who wouldn't have taken that going into the day. This loss is on the offense and some questionable coaching decisions in the second half.

2 very good consecutive defensive efforts! I still think this team wins 10-11 games. I expect a 3 game win streak starting Sunday at Cincy.
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Default Re: The Defense is starting to take some steps

Steps schmeps. Let's start winning some damn games and stop salvaging moral victories.
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The title of the thread says it all, very true.

Now lets hope they keep making steps.
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I can understand complaining about the oline, the head coach, even the QB (who put up great numbers). I really don't understand fans wanting to criticize this defense now. They have made major strides the past two weeks and shutout a very prolific offense on the road for an entire half. The Cardinals only converted 2 third downs the entire game: they gave up one fisrt down in the entire 2nd half, and had 4 3 and outs.

By the way, it's hard to have sacks when you are trailing the entire game. Most sacks come when QBs predictably throw from 7 step drops. The ineffectiveness of the offense in the first half had a lot to do with the lack of sacks. If Warner was in a position where he had to make plays late, then there would be some sacks. Instead, the pressure led to him throwing the ball away (a lot) in the second half.

I'd say it was a darn good defensive effort for a team starting 2 rookies and only 5 games in to a new scheme. They are getting pressure, laying punishing hits, making plays, stopping the run, and getting the ball back to the offense.

Arizona had 11 posessions of consequence and scored 3 times. 340 total yards. 1 turnover. 5 3 and outs, 1 Turnover... who wouldn't have taken that going into the day. This loss is on the offense and some questionable coaching decisions in the second half.

2 very good consecutive defensive efforts! I still think this team wins 10-11 games. I expect a 3 game win streak starting Sunday at Cincy.
agree with the first part, hope your right about the last statement
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We still only have one freaking interception as a team I think.

And what, we got one sack today? So that's like 3 so far this season?

A good defense sacks a QB and gets picks.
We have two. One by Busing against the Jets and another by Wilson against Tennessee.

I think Pollard does make a difference. He had a goof but for the most part played solidly.
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I can understand complaining about the oline, the head coach, even the QB (who put up great numbers). I really don't understand fans wanting to criticize this defense now. They have made major strides the past two weeks and shutout a very prolific offense on the road for an entire half. The Cardinals only converted 2 third downs the entire game: they gave up one fisrt down in the entire 2nd half, and had 4 3 and outs.

By the way, it's hard to have sacks when you are trailing the entire game. Most sacks come when QBs predictably throw from 7 step drops. The ineffectiveness of the offense in the first half had a lot to do with the lack of sacks. If Warner was in a position where he had to make plays late, then there would be some sacks. Instead, the pressure led to him throwing the ball away (a lot) in the second half.

I'd say it was a darn good defensive effort for a team starting 2 rookies and only 5 games in to a new scheme. They are getting pressure, laying punishing hits, making plays, stopping the run, and getting the ball back to the offense.

Arizona had 11 posessions of consequence and scored 3 times. 340 total yards. 1 turnover. 5 3 and outs, 1 Turnover... who wouldn't have taken that going into the day. This loss is on the offense and some questionable coaching decisions in the second half.

2 very good consecutive defensive efforts! I still think this team wins 10-11 games. I expect a 3 game win streak starting Sunday at Cincy.
That bolded paragraph reeks of excuse. I don't like qualifiers. You don't want me to ***** about a team that gave up 21 points in the first half? By what logic exactly?

And you watched none of Cincy-Baltimore if you think we are in Cincy's league.
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