Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > The Great Fans of the Houston Texans > Texans Talk
Home Forums Register FAQDonate Automatic Monthly Contribution Members List Mark Forums Read


Texans Talk Football talk only please. Keep it to the game, the players, the coaches and management.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-08-2009   #1
DerekLee1
Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,296
Rep Power: 1687 DerekLee1 is a quality contributor and well respectedDerekLee1 is a quality contributor and well respectedDerekLee1 is a quality contributor and well respectedDerekLee1 is a quality contributor and well respectedDerekLee1 is a quality contributor and well respectedDerekLee1 is a quality contributor and well respectedDerekLee1 is a quality contributor and well respectedDerekLee1 is a quality contributor and well respectedDerekLee1 is a quality contributor and well respectedDerekLee1 is a quality contributor and well respectedDerekLee1 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Great ZBS overview

To those who question the ZBS and why Kubiak stresses commitedness to the running game, here's a great explanation by Brian Billick as to why it works, why Denver was the best at it under Shanahan (and Kubiak), and why it's important to stay committed to the run. Enjoy.

Billick on Denver's ZBS
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by NitroGSXR View Post
My son and I toss the old pigskin around pretty much everyday. He says I throw like a girl and when he drops it, I tell him he catches like Jacoby Jones. He does not find it as funny as I do.
DerekLee1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2009   #2
TimeKiller
Awaiting Email Confirmation
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: This giant tree, standing 10,000 ft. high but not reaching the ground. It's roots must hold the sky.
Section: 521/Couch
Age: 28
Posts: 7,648
Rep Power: 0 TimeKiller is a quality contributor and well respectedTimeKiller is a quality contributor and well respectedTimeKiller is a quality contributor and well respectedTimeKiller is a quality contributor and well respectedTimeKiller is a quality contributor and well respectedTimeKiller is a quality contributor and well respectedTimeKiller is a quality contributor and well respectedTimeKiller is a quality contributor and well respectedTimeKiller is a quality contributor and well respectedTimeKiller is a quality contributor and well respectedTimeKiller is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Great ZBS overview

If it's so simple to explain why is it so hard to run? In know those are highlight clips but it looked like a better OL blocking than what we have. I think we've got a decent tackle pair that still has some upside but the interior seems to get eaten alive by almost anything the D's are doing this year. I know they need quick guys but it seems like one big monster OG would do the running game a big favor. Instead we got Hill in the 4th who has yet to make any sort of impact other than spreading the flu.

Is it possible to demote Kubiak to OC, K-Shan back to QB coach and hire Poppa Shanahan? I could live with that.
TimeKiller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2009   #3
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
 
CloakNNNdagger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 15,910
Rep Power: 209676 CloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Great ZBS overview

When you watch the video, you see the Broncos linemen maintaining the opponent well on the defensive side of the LOS. Our centers and guards are commonly on the offensive side of the LOS (not by choice) by the time the RB is looking for the cutback lane.

Gibbs teaches the ZBS lineman, once he "handles" his man (gets him out of the play), he should release him and go on into the defensive backfield to take on the next level defensive player. I've watched too many times when our lineman hasn't "blocked out" his man, and yet is standing up there in the defensive back field looking for someone to hit while our RB gets a nasty reception.

Whether it's OL weight/strength ratio or poor execution or both, our ZBS play does not closely resemble the look of the successful Broncos teams of the past.

Last edited by CloakNNNdagger; 10-09-2009 at 02:26 PM.
CloakNNNdagger is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2009   #4
silvrhand
Site Contributor
 
silvrhand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: La Porte, TX
Section: 135J 5-8
Age: 39
Posts: 2,244
Rep Power: 31109 silvrhand is a quality contributor and well respectedsilvrhand is a quality contributor and well respectedsilvrhand is a quality contributor and well respectedsilvrhand is a quality contributor and well respectedsilvrhand is a quality contributor and well respectedsilvrhand is a quality contributor and well respectedsilvrhand is a quality contributor and well respectedsilvrhand is a quality contributor and well respectedsilvrhand is a quality contributor and well respectedsilvrhand is a quality contributor and well respectedsilvrhand is a quality contributor and well respected
Send a message via AIM to silvrhand Send a message via MSN to silvrhand Send a message via Yahoo to silvrhand
Default Re: Great ZBS overview

Quote:
Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger View Post
When you watch the video, you see the Broncos linemen maintaining the opponent well on the defensive side of the LOS. Our centers and guards are commonly on the offensive side of the LOS (not by choice) by the time the RB is looking for the cutback lane.

Gibbs teaches the ZBS lineman, once he "handles" his man (gets him out of the play), he should release him and go on into the defensive backfield to take on the next level defensive player. I've watched too many times when our lineman hasn't "blocked out" his man, and yet is standing up there in the defensive back field looking for someone to hit while our RB gets a nasty reception.

Whether it's OL weight/strength ratio or poor execution or both, our ZBS play does not closely resemble the look of the successful Broncos teams of the past.
It's hard to tell but the Denver broncos seem to do a much better job of getting off the ball and lateral movement. We seem to fire downfield more instead of stretching the field to create gaps.
silvrhand is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > The Great Fans of the Houston Texans > Texans Talk
Home Forums Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ad Management by RedTyger